Facebook FB 11/28/2013 CWC Thanksgiving Message

[NobleGreyHorse]

So what we have is the closest he's come to emotional rock bottom? This could be the true test of cwc. Either he is going to continue whining and doing nothing and making things worse or he can finally gain that valuable self introspect that can make him try to dig himself out from the hoard.

Emotional rock bottom may, and I emphasize may, happen when he winds up in lockup again after his next vandalizing spree at a store that dares to sell the Xbone and DVDs of shirtless men. Or his next freakout when he has a car accident. Or however he next comes to the attention of the Jerkops.

But since he thinks no store manager ought to have any authority whatsoever in dealing with the public, and will inevitably think whoever pressed charges was terribly unfair, I kind of doubt that.

 

[BillRiley]

So what we have is the closest he's come to emotional rock bottom? This could be the true test of cwc. Either he is going to continue whining and doing nothing and making things worse or he can finally gain that valuable self introspect that can make him try to dig himself out from the hoard.

Nah, there's still a lot to go before he hits rock bottom. What I'd like to know is: will Chris know it when he does?

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Nah, there's still a lot to go before he hits rock bottom. What I'd like to know is: will Chris know it when he does?

Chris pretty much always feels that right now is the lowest point for him. He has to feel that way all the time to fuel his pity machine.

 

[butt in trouble]

Nah, there's still a lot to go before he hits rock bottom. What I'd like to know is: will Chris know it when he does?

Chris pretty much always feels that right now is the lowest point for him. He has to feel that way all the time to fuel his pity machine.

Yeah, it's a very teenage girl type of mentality. Whatever is happening in his life right now if most important thing that will ever happen in the history of everything.

 

[CatParty]

So what we have is the closest he's come to emotional rock bottom? This could be the true test of cwc. Either he is going to continue whining and doing nothing and making things worse or he can finally gain that valuable self introspect that can make him try to dig himself out from the hoard.

Emotional rock bottom may, and I emphasize may, happen when he winds up in lockup again after his next vandalizing spree at a store that dares to sell the Xbone and DVDs of shirtless men. Or his next freakout when he has a car accident. Or however he next comes to the attention of the Jerkops.

But since he thinks no store manager ought to have any authority whatsoever in dealing with the public, and will inevitably think whoever pressed charges was terribly unfair, I kind of doubt that.

Nah, there's still a lot to go before he hits rock bottom. What I'd like to know is: will Chris know it when he does?

This is why I said it was "closest" he's come. He's still got a lot of potential failure ahead of him. This is a test of his mettle. Will he overcome? So far, it's seems like he can't handle it. It's just adding more to his paranoia and insecurities instead of teaching him a lesson. Which is unfortunately helping the set up for bigger and more damaging falls.

 

[Ace_Reloaded]

I'm thankful for Kim's A+ sarcasm.

I'm really curious what exactly Sarah told him in her letter. If she flat out said Bob had negotiated friends, or just alluded to "we felt sorry for you so that's why we let you hang out with us" and he took that and combined it with speculation from here and decided the theory of Bob asking the school to fake some friends for him was true.

 

[SPARKLETWAT]

This went out to 60 or so people. I'm posting in an attempt to shed some light on the speculations regarding how Chris spent his holiday.

http://i.imgur.com/7mG8qjH.png

I spent Thanksgiving afternoon trying to resuscitate a six year old child who choked on a turkey bone. She didn't make it and I watched both her parents break down when the attending gave the news. I had to take as many tubes off her as I could and waited while her parents kissed and hugged her, both sobbing the whole time. I cried with them. Then I had to go home and watch my brother have a huge meltdown because he couldn't find his brown sweater and we ended up not going out to eat. My best IRL friend is dying of cancer and it'll be lucky if he sees Christmas.

Chris and his asinine "problems" are NOTHING.

 

[A-№1]

Chris pretty much always feels that right now is the lowest point for him. He has to feel that way all the time to fuel his pity machine.

Absolutely. Then there's the way pain fades in memory over time, especially for Chris with his readily editable memory, so that whatever remembered pains Chris felt in the past simply cannot compare to the pain he is feeling right now, regardless of how insignificant that pain actually is.

Whatever emotional suffering Chris might feel he will only use to seek ass pats and sympathy. This is why no matter how emotionally low things ever get for Chris, he won't change. He believes it's the responsibility of others to change themselves to make him happy.

Chris will need to hit a physical rock bottom before he will ever be motivated to change himself, not an emotional one. It will literally need to be a choice between growing up or starvation before he even considers self improvement.

Chris and his asinine "problems" are NOTHING.

Don't worry. Real, hard problems will be coming Chris' way soon enough. His charmed, privileged life won't last forever (or even much longer). When Real Life finally catches up to him, it's going to be ugly.

 

[GuyMontag21]

someone said earlier that this high school stuff seems to have totally slain him. (and I can see why, despite my views of Chris.)

is he just going to whine until he's dead, then? what a waste of time, seriously

 

[Smokedaddy]

is he just going to whine until he's dead, then? what a waste of time, seriously

Gosh. Chris, wasting time?

 

[Lady Houligan]

It's fascinating how much Chris' life follows a traditional story arc. The Hero is now at the point where an element of his history is revealed to be fallacy, forcing him to have to reassess his goals and his beliefs. He is most likely to REFUSE THE CALL TO ACTION and shrink further away from the world.

I'd almost argue that he put so much emphasis on his life molding to certain patterns that it just appears that way. Nearly all of Our Hero's history is falsehoods, but many of them are ones he put into place himself. Him reassessing all that would mean having to actually do work and maybe even (gasp) be wrong.

 

[bradsternum]

His High School experience is one of the cornerstones' of Chris' identity. It was the proof that he was accepted into society despite his limitations. It was proof that he was better than the average slow-in-da-minds because he could make regular friends and pass classes. Of course he's confused. Everything he knew about himself is a lie, and now he knows it. He's not the way-past-cool dude he remembers; he's just an outsider with autism. It's all kinda sad, really. But hey, if he was an intelligent, robust individual, he'd take a hard look in the mirror and tell himself it's time to change.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

So what we have is the closest he's come to emotional rock bottom? This could be the true test of cwc. Either he is going to continue whining and doing nothing and making things worse or he can finally gain that valuable self introspect that can make him try to dig himself out from the hoard.

I know which one my money's on.

 

[BIG DADDY]

Chris and his asinine "problems" are NOTHING.

I actually disagree here a little. I don't think it's necessarily fair to compare one person's problems or sufferings to another's since the pain and emotions you feel are relative. And even if it is, I would still argue that Chris's problems aren't 'nothing'. I think the problem of not having friends and then finding out the friends you thought you had weren't real friends is a serious and emotionally devastating one. Humans are social creatures, so not having friends and not being able to make them is absolutely a real and serious problem.

Now, is it fair to say his reactions to his problems are BS, selfish, unhelpful to himself and hurtful to others? Absolutely.

 

[Alec Benson Leary]

Don't worry. Real, hard problems will be coming Chris' way soon enough. His charmed, privileged life won't last forever (or even much longer). When Real Life finally catches up to him, it's going to be ugly.

I have to take a step back just to grasp how macabre it is that... compared to his future, we really can describe his current state as "charmed" and "privileged", without irony.

 

[DangDirtyTrolls]

Don't worry. Real, hard problems will be coming Chris' way soon enough. His charmed, privileged life won't last forever (or even much longer). When Real Life finally catches up to him, it's going to be ugly.

I have to take a step back just to grasp how macabre it is that... compared to his future, we really can describe his current state as "charmed" and "privileged", without irony.

It astounds me just how oblivious Chris remains about his future. He has experienced losing a parent 'unexpectedly', he is acutely aware of how lonely he is with only Barb for company and he has acknowledged that his mother is suffering from health issues. Yet he is as idle as ever and any mention of this is just met with a rebuttal about how he is too stressed and/or depressed to do anything It's not as if the universe is going to wait until Chris is good and ready...

 

[Marvin]

Don't worry. Real, hard problems will be coming Chris' way soon enough. His charmed, privileged life won't last forever (or even much longer). When Real Life finally catches up to him, it's going to be ugly.

I have to take a step back just to grasp how macabre it is that... compared to his future, we really can describe his current state as "charmed" and "privileged", without irony.

It astounds me just how oblivious Chris remains about his future. He has experienced losing a parent 'unexpectedly', he is acutely aware of how lonely he is with only Barb for company and he has acknowledged that his mother is suffering from health issues. Yet he is as idle as ever and any mention of this is just met with a rebuttal about how he is too stressed and/or depressed to do anything It's not as if the universe is going to wait until Chris is good and ready...

Heh, no, Chris is very concerned about his post-Barb future. He just can't conceive of a plan. Or, well, he has thought of plans, just not one that keeps him out of jail or on the streets. He's pretty much convinced that he's fucked and can't think of any way to stop his future from happening.

 

[random_pickle]

Well, this thread just got hell of a lot more depressing.

I never imagined Chris actually thinking about future plans in a non-childish way. Now I feel legitimently sorry for him.

 

[IgnorantBystander]

I have to take a step back just to grasp how macabre it is that... compared to his future, we really can describe his current state as "charmed" and "privileged", without irony.

It astounds me just how oblivious Chris remains about his future. He has experienced losing a parent 'unexpectedly', he is acutely aware of how lonely he is with only Barb for company and he has acknowledged that his mother is suffering from health issues. Yet he is as idle as ever and any mention of this is just met with a rebuttal about how he is too stressed and/or depressed to do anything It's not as if the universe is going to wait until Chris is good and ready...

Heh, no, Chris is very concerned about his post-Barb future. He just can't conceive of a plan. Or, well, he has thought of plans, just not one that keeps him out of jail or on the streets. He's pretty much convinced that he's fucked and can't think of any way to stop his future from happening.

This makes me sad. Yes, he's done & said lousy things. But I can't imagine not having any kind of hope or plan for my future. It's awful that there's not one person who can sit down calmly with Chris and say "Ok, one day, you are going to have to fend for yourself, and so let's try to figure out some tool and strategies before that day comes." Christ, even Anna, the one person who might actually get him to listen, says "He just needs a girlfriend!" She makes me sick.

Chris had potential. That's the worst part of all of this. He managed to learn to read, write, drive a car, get a CADD degree, and if he had someone actively working with him on life skills, he could be living independently today. Since PVCC, it seems like a combination of trolling, living with Barb, losing Bob, and his own attitudes and prejudices have combined to create a horrible cycle. Because he's so isolated, he has no idea how to interact with people, so when he does, he fails, and he becomes more isolated, and even worse at interaction, and it just keeps repeating.

I really, truly, from-the-bottom-of-my-heart hope that when Barb dies, someone intervenes and gets him in some kind of social services program.

 

[drmccoy]

I have to take a step back just to grasp how macabre it is that... compared to his future, we really can describe his current state as "charmed" and "privileged", without irony.

It astounds me just how oblivious Chris remains about his future. He has experienced losing a parent 'unexpectedly', he is acutely aware of how lonely he is with only Barb for company and he has acknowledged that his mother is suffering from health issues. Yet he is as idle as ever and any mention of this is just met with a rebuttal about how he is too stressed and/or depressed to do anything It's not as if the universe is going to wait until Chris is good and ready...

Heh, no, Chris is very concerned about his post-Barb future. He just can't conceive of a plan. Or, well, he has thought of plans, just not one that keeps him out of jail or on the streets. He's pretty much convinced that he's fucked and can't think of any way to stop his future from happening.

And he won't listen to anybody that may be able to suggest things that will set him up. It's sad yet fitting for him. Yes, fitting. Even without the trolls he refused to listen to anybody save his parents. I somehow doubt Barb is thinking about this.

I think Marv said it best, he could get a part-time job and, with the get a small place in Charlottesville and live in relative comfort.