Money FB - 2/28 - Something off his breasts

[Marvin]

How does Chris have SSDI? Chris never worked long enough to pay in 6 quarters of FICA, which is the absolute minimum requirement for SSDI.

Did Bob somehow finagle a benefit for Chris that Chris wasn't actually eligible for?

He's eligible. You can get SSDI on your parents credits in some situations.

The SSDI program pays benefits to adults who have a disability that began before they became 22-years old. We consider this SSDI benefit as a “child’s” benefit because it’s paid on a parent’s Social Security earnings record. For a disabled adult to become entitled to this “child” benefit, one of his or her parents:

• Must be receiving Social Security retirement or disability benefits; or
• Must have died and have worked enough to qualify for Social Security.

These benefits also are payable to an adult if he or she is disabled at age 18, and if they received dependents benefits on a parent’s Social Security earnings record prior to age 18. We make the disability determination using the disability rules for adults. SSDI disabled adult “child” benefits continue as long as the individual remains disabled. Your child doesn’t need to have worked to get these benefits.

There are still limits, they're just nowhere near as strict as SSI.
There's a time limit to dispose of assets above a certain amount, or you can face being removed from SSDI, since if you can support yourself to the point where you can save x dollars, then you must not need the assistance.
It varies state by state.

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This applies to "invisible disabilities", not physical ones. No idea how that works.

It's hard to find explicit information on these issues on the SSA's official website. They generally tell you when there are restrictions on a given program, but they're not very explicit when you need to know when such restrictions aren't in place.

This site tells me that there is no asset limit for SSDI. I don't know how accurate that is.

 

[Subconcious Offense]

He's eligible. You can get SSDI on your parents credits in some situations.



It's hard to find explicit information on these issues on the SSA's official website. They generally tell you when there are restrictions on a given program, but they're not very explicit when you need to know when such restrictions aren't in place.

This site tells me that there is no asset limit for SSDI. I don't know how accurate that is.

Bob really paid out his ass for that single roll in the hay. His other kids probably didn't even get anything.

 

[BillRiley]

Bob really paid out his ass for that single roll in the hay. His other kids probably didn't even get anything.

His other kids didn't want anything to do with the horrible old fart.

 

[Hyperion]

As far as we know, only the former.

Yet.

"chrissun, momma needs you to sell a kidney, momma's on a hot streak!"

Oh, it's definitely smart for her. Just not anyone else.

Eh, no, I really wouldn't say that. I'd say Barb was a full and willing participant in what happened with Snyder. Chris didn't even risk going over there until he consulted Barb and she insisted she come along. Amusingly enough, he was the more cautious of the two.

Chris did hit Snyder. But Barb hit him too. Her foot literally on the gas.

Oh yeah, Barb sunk like 50-100k on Rob Bell, and only took the plea deal when she couldn't afford to fight it any longer.

Maybe that money could've gone to Chris' future? Nah... someone's (correctly) accusing you of wrongdoing. Gotta fight that to the bitter end!

This is one of the funniest things about Chris to me. Forget the evidence, the witnesses, that the Police caught you attempting to flee the scene. Lets spend tens of thousands of dollars fighting a open and shut case.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

Thanks, Marvin! I had no idea people could get their kids on SSDI based on their own FICA credits. My hat is off to Bob for pulling that one off, seriously.

 

[anusaurus]

Thanks, Marvin! I had no idea people could get their kids on SSDI based on their own FICA credits. My hat is off to Bob for pulling that one off, seriously.

No, Chris is on SSDI because of the tism, not Bob's status.

He's eligible. You can get SSDI on your parents credits in some situations.



It's hard to find explicit information on these issues on the SSA's official website. They generally tell you when there are restrictions on a given program, but they're not very explicit when you need to know when such restrictions aren't in place.

This site tells me that there is no asset limit for SSDI. I don't know how accurate that is.

Yeah, a lot of it is kept "private" because it deals with health care, etc. That said, benefit rates etc aren't too hard to find out with some basic deduction.

I just know that where I live, there's a limit as to the total liquid assets one can own. Cars and houses don't count, but everything else does; and where I live is socialist to the core.
I can't see it being any less lenient in USA.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

No, Chris is on SSDI because of the tism, not Bob's status.

Most people with disabilities who had not ever held a job for at least a year and a half would get SSI, a less generous benefit, and the one I assumed Chris had.

Chris apparently gets SSDI (which is primarily for people who had worked and paid into Social Security before becoming disabled) rather than SSI because Bob was on Social Security when Chris was adjudged disabled.

Otherwise, Chris would be on SSI, because Chris does not have a year and a half of work credit.

Marvin is absolutely correct that there is no asset limit on SSDI, because the principle behind it is that people receiving SSDI are "getting back" after having paid into the Social Security system.

 

[anusaurus]

I now understand why people sperg out about people on SSDI.

But, no, Chris' SSDI status is for his tism. That's fact. Ask any Christorian!

 

[The American Hedgehog]

Chris has SSDI, not SSI. He doesn't have those limits.

A text search on the Cwcki shows that SSDI only appears in the Monthly Tugboat article. SSI appears in multiple articles in quotes from Chris.

Is there a source for him being on SSDI, or do you figure it's the case because of details like how much money he gets?

 

[AnOminous]

He's eligible. You can get SSDI on your parents credits in some situations.

All of those conditions seem to apply to Chris.

The SSDI program pays benefits to adults who have a disability that began before they became 22-years old.

We consider this SSDI benefit as a “child’s” benefit because it’s paid on a parent’s Social Security earnings record.

For a disabled adult to become entitled to this “child” benefit, one of his or her parents:

• Must be receiving Social Security retirement or disability benefits; or

• Must have died and have worked enough to qualify for Social Security.

These benefits also are payable to an adult if he or she is disabled at age 18, and if they received dependents benefits on a parent’s Social Security earnings record prior to age 18. We make the disability determination using the disability rules for adults.

SSDI disabled adult “child” benefits continue as long as the individual remains disabled. Your child doesn’t need to have worked to get these benefits.

 

[Asandy31]

He's eligible. You can get SSDI on your parents credits in some situations.



It's hard to find explicit information on these issues on the SSA's official website. They generally tell you when there are restrictions on a given program, but they're not very explicit when you need to know when such restrictions aren't in place.

This site tells me that there is no asset limit for SSDI. I don't know how accurate that is.

Yeah, It seems as though a majority of people are "salty" about this policy. I've heard stories about widows who are all but destitute and have to remain in those situations or risk loosing whatever meager allowances the SSA throws at them. If the Social Security Retirement, SSI, SSDI, and widow's comp really do go bankrupt within the next 10 to 50 years, we know who's fault it will be...and it's not Chris or people like him

 

[Marvin]

A text search on the Cwcki shows that SSDI only appears in the Monthly Tugboat article. SSI appears in multiple articles in quotes from Chris.

Is there a source for him being on SSDI, or do you figure it's the case because of details like how much money he gets?

Chris doesn't know what he's talking about. I'm pretty sure he started quoting "SSI" to us because we used the term with him first.

SSI is for poor people. SSDI is the more obvious route Bob would've taken. It's for as long as Chris will remain handicapped (which is indefinitely) and doesn't have asset restrictions.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

I'm still confused at the gray area where he can be held personally accountable and be tried as a competent adult, yet still receives SSDI. Seems like that should be either/or.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm still confused at the gray area where he can be held personally accountable and be tried as a competent adult, yet still receives SSDI. Seems like that should be either/or.

They're two entirely separate legal issues. Not being able to work doesn't mean you can go around murdering people.

 

[MrsFrizzle]

I now understand why people sperg out about people on SSDI.

But, no, Chris' SSDI status is for his tism. That's fact. Ask any Christorian!

anusaurus, you're missing the point. Chris is on disability for autism.

There are two disability programs in the US. SSI is for people who have never been able to work. It has rigorous asset limits.

SSDI is for people who have worked for some time, paid into the Social Security system, and then become disabled.

Ordinarily, Chris wouldn't qualify for SSDI because Chris hadn't worked and paid into the system, but because Bob was receiving Social Security benefits at the time Chris was adjudged to be disabled, Chris qualified for the more generous SSDI program.

Otherwise, Chris would receive SSI benefits, which are slightly lower and subject to asset limits.

 

[Tubular Monkey]

They're two entirely separate legal issues. Not being able to work doesn't mean you can go around murdering people.

Or hitting them with cars.

 

[Asandy31]

anusaurus, you're missing the point. Chris is on disability for autism.

There are two disability programs in the US. SSI is for people who have never been able to work. It has rigorous asset limits.

SSDI is for people who have worked for some time, paid into the Social Security system, and then become disabled.

Ordinarily, Chris wouldn't qualify for SSDI because Chris hadn't worked and paid into the system, but because Bob was receiving Social Security benefits at the time Chris was adjudged to be disabled, Chris qualified for the more generous SSDI program.

Otherwise, Chris would receive SSI benefits, which are slightly lower and subject to asset limits.

Does he still qualify enough after Bob's death....enquiring minds want to know

 

[Ravenor]

Does he still qualify enough after Bob's death....enquiring minds want to know

I'm 99.9% sure that he would still qualify for it, Bob was receiving benefits for OPL as a child when he was a adult they moved him over to the current system because on OPL's file there is a big rubber stamp saying "Unable to improve", I'd be interested in knowing what kind of benefits Bob got for young Chris as it happens because it would cast of light on just what OPL is likely to have besides Autism.

 

[Agentpeanut]

I'm 99.9% sure that he would still qualify for it, Bob was receiving benefits for OPL as a child when he was a adult they moved him over to the current system because on OPL's file there is a big rubber stamp saying "Unable to improve", I'd be interested in knowing what kind of benefits Bob got for young Chris as it happens because it would cast of light on just what OPL is likely to have besides Autism.

I've always been miffed over how Chris has been able to receive benefits for merely being a high functioning Autistic. I mean, it's not like his autism is severe enough to prevent him from being able to work. The only real issue that I could see being a cause for concern would be a lack of social skills. As you've said, I have a feeling that Chris probably has a string of mental disorders, diagnosed or otherwise, that go beyond him simply being autistic.

 

[Ravenor]

I've always been miffed over how Chris has been able receive benefits for merely being a high functioning Autistic. I mean, it's not like his autism is severe enough to prevent him from being able to work. The only real issue that I could see being a cause for concern would be a lack of social skills. As you've said, I have a feeling that Chris probably has a string of mental disorders, diagnosed or otherwise, that go beyond him simply being autistic.

Given what we know about Chris that's a sure bet, it's also a sure bet that Chris isn't really aware of what he's got or really cares. He know he has autism and that matters to him, I mean I doubt we will ever know for certain exactly what he's got or at least the state of Virginia thinks he's got as the only place that held that info Bob's file cabinet and that's probably gone up in smoke during the fire (not discounting any work up he get's in future when he has another run in with the police).