Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

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What’s the evidence of that contact? Anything beyond Chris’s own claims?
Chris was informed of the car wreck, injuries, and those involved in Barb's recovery. I don't think, outside of contact with Barb, he would have access to this information? I could be wrong but who would tell him and with that much detail— And it not being made up bullshit to fuck with him? I feel like it was telling that he also requested that this knowledge not be shared directly, only summarized by Kengle.
 
Chris was informed of the car wreck, injuries, and those involved in Barb's recovery. I don't think, outside of contact with Barb, he would have access to this information? I could be wrong but who would tell him and with that much detail— And it not being made up bullshit to fuck with him? I feel like it was telling that he also requested that this knowledge not be shared directly, only summarized by Kengle.
Good point. I think the leading idea is that Chris's attorney would have shared the information though
 
Good point. I think the leading idea is that Chris's attorney would have shared the information though
I'm more focused on the amount of detail. I don't see why his attorney would go out of his way to find out who is helping Barb (she wasn't in like a coma or anything, presumably could speak for herself just fine, so on) while she was on the mend and pass that on? I don't know, not really my area of understanding, but if his attorney did provide that information wouldn't it be more concise? I also feel like it lends more credibility to Chris' later panic about Barb's lack of responsiveness to contact, and requesting a welfare check.. If they hadn't been talking, wouldn't that been something he brought up significantly earlier?
 
Usually mental hospitals limit the items a patient brings with them, and there's a very small window to being called in line for breakfast.
With the six-month continuance, I'd see him still in the hospital drawing away.
Long term hospitals are usually pretty strict with just what the patients can do and are often divided by how much support they need from the staff. Chris likely isn't with the violent residents or the ones that are considered at risk (but we don't know just how his mental state is after jail).

Some have their layouts divided by security/ care levels. Patients with violent tendencies towards the staff are given different treatment procedures compared to the ones that hurt themselves. The violent suicidal ones get the most care (I recall a young man that acted normal a good chunk of the time but would end good week by trying to slam his head into a table and breaking multiple bones in his face). Ones violent towards staff don't get the softest treatment and tend to be isolated more but more experienced staff babysit them. These are the patients that will act normal and then decide to punch the employee coming to take them in for rec time.

If Chris isn't in either of those areas, his life could be similar to that of a school kid (one very funny resident compared them to dorms). The staff around him are likely a mix of nurses (who are usually spread out between a large number of patients and don't give them much individual focus) the assistant/ aids (who are underpaid/ overworked and likely didn't have medical backgrounds or are students there for experience). Fatty would get medication, counseling, quiet time, taken for exercise, meals, recreational activities, and doctor rotations.

But this was all pre-covid and there is a very good chance that there are special rules for Chris thanks to his infamy and charges. Depending on how delusional he has become he could be on different med trials or coloring with crayons (if staff allows it).
 
Chris was informed of the car wreck, injuries, and those involved in Barb's recovery. I don't think, outside of contact with Barb, he would have access to this information? I could be wrong but who would tell him and with that much detail— And it not being made up bullshit to fuck with him? I feel like it was telling that he also requested that this knowledge not be shared directly, only summarized by Kengle.
I wonder if this made him tard rage to the point of sedation? When Chris was first jailed after the Snyder hit and run, he demanded to see Barb. Now, I'm not so sure since Chris cares so much for material possessions, and he didn't see what he did to Barb was wrong.
 
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I dunno, Chris seems more the passive aggressive type who‘d try adopting his hedgehog-defence stance and refuse to move or give them the silent treatment.

He seems to only be violent when he thinks they’ll be no retaliation like with the pepper spray, if there’s a couple of big imposing men standing by ready to restrain him I doubt they’ll be any physical outbursts.
If he pulled this in jail it would be hilarious. In jail, they don't give a fuck that he's crazy, in fact it will 100% make them more likely to fuck with him. If he went into hedgehog defense mode, and gave CO's the silent treatment when they were entering his cell they would assemble a 5 man "extraction team" pepper spray him through the door, then rush him. He still has nightmares about elementary school when they recorded him flopping around on the ground like a fish autistically screeching, he would be forever broken if he got his face mashed into a cold cement jail cell floor while power hungry rednecks gave him cheap shots in the ribs while hand cuffing him for refusing to comply to officer's orders.
 
I remember Chris mentioned talking to her on the phone.

She’s a good actress and a lifelong con artist.
I'd bet even if she is half-demented she still has the white trash energy to pull off the low-rent carny hustles she has all her meshuggeneh life. You lose those early skills last.
Fatty would get medication, counseling, quiet time, taken for exercise, meals, recreational activities, and doctor rotations.
It isn't one of those white collar resort loony bins you'd get with a Cadillac healthcare plan but it's honestly probably healthier than whatever sick white trash Faulknerian drama was going on behind the doors of 14 BC that we don't even know about yet.
 
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Old patterns built up over 40 years. Stubbornness. Hillbilly us-against-the-world mentality. Relationships are complicated and the Chandlers are deranged.
Even so, If anyone did that to me, and person got my number and called me I would scream my lungs out or hang up instantly. I still cannot conceive how she doesn't hate every living particle of her son and doesn't want to see him till the sun explodes. People make edgy jokes like 'hurr, Barb enjoyed it' but considering her incredulous willingness to still have even talked to this complete bastard after what he did, makes me think it could be possible.
 
I don't know an exact date, but it would have to had been after Barb's accident, when Chris was still in jail. This would be an assumption on my part.
Are you sure it happened?

Bob really was the Anchor to reality for Barb and Chris wasnt he, all the really really batshit stuff happened post Bob he must have has some moderating action on their behaviour.
Yup. Those two dumbasses promptly took turns hitting a man with their car and spend the money Bob left them on a lawyer who got them the same deal a court appointed attorney would have. Then Chris set the house on fire. Bob was definitely keeping things from falling apart.

Even so, If anyone did that to me, and person got my number and called me I would scream my lungs out or hang up instantly.
You and I are relatively normal. Barb is not.

People make edgy jokes like 'hurr, Barb enjoyed it' but considering her incredulous willingness to still have even talked to this complete bastard after what he did, makes me think it could be possible.
She’s stubborn, foolish, and hateful. Chris was a reason why she could live in her house and not be taken care of by relatives or an old folk’s home. And maybe she wanted to punish him herself. Who knows? We’re talking about crazy people.
 
She was contacting Chris when he was in jail. It was her family who made her stop (from what we can tell). Their relationship is fucked up.
I've been following this shit show of a saga since July and in the time since I don't recall ever hearing anything about Barb being in contact with Chris.
 
Even so, If anyone did that to me, and person got my number and called me I would scream my lungs out or hang up instantly. I still cannot conceive how she doesn't hate every living particle of her son and doesn't want to see him till the sun explodes. People make edgy jokes like 'hurr, Barb enjoyed it' but considering her incredulous willingness to still have even talked to this complete bastard after what he did, makes me think it could be possible.
You're assuming that Barb is all there mentally. Last few years or so she always had that "deer in the headlights" look about her when Chris put her on camera and didn't seem to be lucid. So part of me even wonders if she knew what was going on when Chris was raping her.

And if she's got dementia, which she probably has at least a touch of, then could it be that she's forgotten it all and is just wondering why her baby boy isn't around anymore?
 
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