Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[D_Tractor]

I wonder where Chris would be if Borb actually let the school system get him the help he needed.

Wendy's. Wendy's is the #1 employment choice of autist lolcows who can't into coding. Chris and KingcobraJFS both worked there.

 

[Pappy Striderite]

If he weren't stupid, he could at least build a good deck and then lose with it.

his decks were probably built on a character narrative played out in his head.
not strategy; just role-play.

 

[JanuaryViolet]

Chris's language skills are actually fairly well developed,

Perhaps, but I think it's largely imitative. He can mimic a better writer, but he isn't one.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Chris's language skills are actually fairly well developed, considering that he's, y'know, Chris. Consider this page from Sonichu #0 from 2004-05:
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Chris uses "two-bit" (correctly hyphenated, it should be noted) idiomatically here, but his use of "two cents" later is both a mild bit of parallel wordplay and a demonstration that he understands that two bits is a term for a quarter (and a somewhat outdated one at that, showing the breadth of his language acquisition). That's actually kind of impressive. He also describes himself as Sonichu's "intrusive creator," which is a thoroughly reasonable way to characterize his role in the story, and one he clearly came up with himself, as "intrusive creator" is not a common phrase. Also notice that he includes two bulleted lists and properly uses a colon to start both of them, which is a bit beyond elementary English.

Here's a page from Sonichu #6 from 2006-07, which I believe would have been the last issue he completed before the Internet started breaking his brain:
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"A bit-o'-time later" is relaxed and colloquial and fits perfectly well with the tone of the story. Likewise with "Uh..."; it's somewhat unusual to see filler words like "uh" spelled out on the page, but it's something that would occur quite naturally in conversation and adds verisimilitude. Though Chris's usually spelling quirks and typos are present, all the sentences are constructed and punctuated correctly, despite some of the sentences being rather complex.

We can even look at the simple panel that confronts us every time we visit the front page of the CWCki:
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"Some not-so-good news" is an example of a compound modifier, which is a multi-word phrase that is used to modify a noun or verb as if it were a single word. The words in a compound modifier are correctly connected with hyphens, as Chris has done here. It is well constructed and does not read as awkward or out of place.

To be clear, most of these are things that even average students pick up by the time they're 10 or 11. But it's one thing to understand these constructions and techniques, and quite another to be able to use them in writing, naturally and frequently, the way Chris does. A lot of people never really master it. If you don't believe me, go look at your relatives' Facebook posts.

That's what language acquisition is: you hear/read a thing, you remember it, and you use it yourself later, correctly and in a proper context. I'm not giving Chris points for creativity, just pointing out that his facility with language is better than a lot of adults in the population, including a lot of the lolcows we cover on this site.

I disagree. Chris is *extremely* creative. He coins some fantastic turns of phrase, even if he doesn't understand the real meanings of the word. He still made those phrases himself. His stories are actually interesting and dynamic, but he's too stupid to keep them coherent, and he's too stupid to be able to craft technical aspects of them from scratch and instead has to lean on already-existing content. That's why his stories seem so derivative and yet so creative at the same time.

He's basically playing with action figures, but modifying them creatively and writing whole unique situations for them to be in. That is a LOT of creativity, but without skill, and he lacks that because he's too stupid to learn the skills.

So no, Chris is not smart but uncreative. He's quite stupid, but very creative.

 

[Optimus Prime]

I disagree. Chris is *extremely* creative. He coins some fantastic turns of phrase, even if he doesn't understand the real meanings of the word. He still made those phrases himself. His stories are actually interesting and dynamic, but he's too stupid to keep them coherent, and he's too stupid to be able to craft technical aspects of them from scratch and instead has to lean on already-existing content. That's why his stories seem so derivative and yet so creative at the same time.

He's basically playing with action figures, but modifying them creatively and writing whole unique situations for them to be in. That is a LOT of creativity, but without skill, and he lacks that because he's too stupid to learn the skills.

So no, Chris is not smart but uncreative. He's quite stupid, but very creative.

Which is ironic given Sonichu, arguably his most infamous creation, is to this day heralded by Chris himself as his greatest original creation...because a teacher in elementary school told him it was more original than simply using Sonic.

 

[Hogar Grupal]

his decks were probably built on a character narrative played out in his head.
not strategy; just role-play.

Explains Chris real life 'reasoning'. If Chris has shown anything on his time on his planet it's that character/role-play is more important than strategy. It's why he is where he's at now, and will not have any chance of having a home of his own.

 

[PsychoNerd054]

I disagree. Chris is *extremely* creative. He coins some fantastic turns of phrase, even if he doesn't understand the real meanings of the word. He still made those phrases himself. His stories are actually interesting and dynamic, but he's too stupid to keep them coherent, and he's too stupid to be able to craft technical aspects of them from scratch and instead has to lean on already-existing content. That's why his stories seem so derivative and yet so creative at the same time.

He's basically playing with action figures, but modifying them creatively and writing whole unique situations for them to be in. That is a LOT of creativity, but without skill, and he lacks that because he's too stupid to learn the skills.

So no, Chris is not smart but uncreative. He's quite stupid, but very creative.

I mean, whenever you read any of Chris's comics, you get that feeling that he's doing it all just to escape from his hardships by giving himself the upperhand. Even in the earlier issues, he couldn't stop himself from the escapism. Sonichu to me always felt like foreshadowing for his Godhood delusions above all else.

 

[SunburnNation]

Currently about to catch up on all the new lore, but do we know why he got transferred yet?

 

[Optimus Prime]

Currently about to catch up on all the new lore, but do we know why he got transferred yet?

Not for certain but the common theory is that Chris either has been in line to be transferred from the outset, or that he chimped out unbelievably hard when he learned he was not going home (which he thought he was thanks to the information contained within the final Spamton letter) after the most recent hearing.

Whatever the reason, it's most likely that Chris was transferred almost immediately after the hearing as he went completely radio silent following that date.

 

[SunburnNation]

Not for certain but the common theory is that Chris either has been in line to be transferred from the outset, or that he chimped out unbelievably hard when he learned he was not going home (which he thought he was thanks to the information contained within the final Spamton letter) after the most recent hearing.

Whatever the reason, it's most likely that Chris was transferred almost immediately after the hearing as he went completely radio silent following that date.

So now we're back to the way it was at the start. No info, no timetable on when we might get any. I've been ignoring this for months because it was just the same damn letter to Kengle over and over, he's godjesus, the merge is happening, send money. And then my interest sparks back up right as the flow cuts off.

 

[RodgerDodger]

I am unsure about how much of Chris' stupid behavior is from low IQ, how much is from his autism, and how much is from his lack of education.

You just have to look at his old high school homework. It's like it was written by a first grader. Smart autistic people learn very well academically. They have to, because they suck so bad at social intuition/empathy. Chris can't even figure out how to use a computer properly, which is why he kept using his game consoles for his creative projects.

His constant misuse of words even though definitions of them are a google search away. His lack of understanding of the world even though Wikipedia exists. An even remotely intelligent autistic person might not pick up that they were being trolled by PandaHalo, but would be able to understand that Australia is a huge country, and pull up a map of the bushfires and determine if they were in her location or not.

I tend to lean towards Chris being stupid though. Autism can't explain everything.

He's a retard that was raised almost exclusively by and on the internet. He's like the worlds worst Sociology Experiment. The sort of experiment that would make even the Nazi and Imperial Japanese "researchers" squeemish at the thought of it. "Nein Mein Fuhrer! To do such would summon the AntiChris(t)!!!"

 

[AnOminous]

Chris would have been better off raised in a Skinner box.

 

[Chazzed Up]

He was modeling his behavior on his only real male role model, his dad.

I'm not an expert on the details of his family's culture growing up, but I imagine he might've been exposed to old sitcoms a lot too due to his parents' generation and region of origin. Or just due to the fact that Barb probably spent a lot of time sitting around watching TV while Chris was young.

 

[omniflash]

Currently about to catch up on all the new lore, but do we know why he got transferred yet?

Likely to see if he's fit to stand trial

 

[AnOminous]

Likely to see if he's fit to stand trial

Or make him fit to stand trial, or at least to enter a plea.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

So no, Chris is not smart but uncreative. He's quite stupid, but very creative.

Chris still struggled with that CD cover assignment that resulted in "Sonichu", because he just wanted to cover the thing in favorite video game characters. That's all he could think of. Then again, that could've been more of an autistic "special interest" or fixation then, than a lack of creativity - maybe he didn't want anything else.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

I disagree. Chris is *extremely* creative. He coins some fantastic turns of phrase, even if he doesn't understand the real meanings of the word. He still made those phrases himself. His stories are actually interesting and dynamic, but he's too stupid to keep them coherent, and he's too stupid to be able to craft technical aspects of them from scratch and instead has to lean on already-existing content. That's why his stories seem so derivative and yet so creative at the same time.

He's basically playing with action figures, but modifying them creatively and writing whole unique situations for them to be in. That is a LOT of creativity, but without skill, and he lacks that because he's too stupid to learn the skills.

So no, Chris is not smart but uncreative. He's quite stupid, but very creative.

Right, he's creative in the way a person who's had issues with dyslexia tends to be. They're sort of forced to put things together differently, which is disorienting when it comes to doing mundane things but also means when they're presented with data they tend to make connections few "normal" people would. That's why NASA loves dyslexics.

Personally, I always question if "autistic" is just a normal pattern of psychology, and it's only when someone with that psychological makeup is or becomes low functioning enough to drop below a certain threshhold that it becomes pathologized and labeled.
Like imagine someone who had a psychological makeup like Chris' but was "smarter", and developed enough brain power to where they'd be able to learn and piece things together fast enough that they could very effectively mimic ongoing social normalcy. They'd still have similar strengths and weaknesses, but obviously nobody would ever think of calling them "autistic" because their weaker attributes would appear functionally adequate. To everyone on the outside that person would just look like someone who was maybe a bit introverted but very creatively gifted.

To me it doesn't seem unlikely that there are and have been tons of "creative" people out there who are fundamentally very similar to autists like Chris, it's just that him and people like him are very low IQ examples of it.

TL;DR: I wonder if Chris isn't actually that autistic, but rather just really, really fucking stupid.

 

[mikaylatoads]

Chris still struggled with that CD cover assignment that resulted in "Sonichu", because he just wanted to cover the thing in favorite video game characters. That's all he could think of. Then again, that could've been more of an autistic "special interest" or fixation then, than a lack of creativity - maybe he didn't want anything else.

Makes me wonder if his decision to keep many of the original lyrics in his covers + contest entries (Chop Chop Master Onion) are a result of minimal effort, or truly a lack of creativity on his part.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

TL;DR: I wonder if Chris isn't actually that autistic, but rather just really, really fucking stupid.

I'm sure Chris still has autism, as he can be overly literal and shows he lacks theory of mind.

are a result of minimal effort

Chris could be uncreative, or autism could rob him of passion for anything not a "special interest", or both.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

Chris would have been better off raised in a Skinner box.

It's not too late.

Like imagine someone who had a psychological makeup like Chris' but was "smarter", and developed enough brain power to where they'd be able to learn and piece things together fast enough that they could very effectively mimic ongoing social normalcy. They'd still have similar strengths and weaknesses, but obviously nobody would ever think of calling them "autistic" because their weaker attributes would appear functionally adequate. To everyone on the outside that person would just look like someone who was maybe a bit introverted but very creatively gifted.

Please excuse PL:

I mean, my username isn't just for giggles. When I say I'm a sperg I mean it. When I say I'm a retard, I'm only somewhat exaggerating in that I'm not an intellectual retard, just an emotional one. I can understand a lot of the things Chris struggles with. He reminds me of myself when I was a child.

But I'm also not a fucking moron like Chris is, so I learned coping skills, got good at the professions I chose to pursue (that revolve around rules and logic), and in general learned how to not be an ass, and actually successfully get laid with multiple people without having to fuck my mom.

But I'll freely admit that Chris is much more creative than I am. I could not have created something as batshit off the wall interesting as Sonichu. Yeah I could've come up with a dumb Sonic/Pikachu combo OC, but what Chris does with the Sonichu universe and CWCville is.... actually good in its own way. The scene of Jack and Clyde jumping to their deaths down an elevator shaft would be pretty moving if drawn by more competent hands.