Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

You explain to the judge why you arrested a little old lady. It’s just not worth it for something like this.

This is Barbara Chandler, that Barbara Chandler. I highly doubt anyone in Ruckersville is going to get upset Barb got hauled in.

 

[AnOminous]

he is retarded, not insane.

He's insane by normal people definitions, and definitely mentally ill, and none too bright, but wasn't legally insane when he raped Barb (for reasons this thread in general and @Pointless Sperg in particular have gone over fairly exhaustively). The fact they threw him in a bin for the moment does seem to indicate they're at least contemplating his potential incompetence to stand trial and trying to get that resolved before going to trial (or more likely a plea bargain).

 

[Sharkbait]

This is Barbara Chandler, that Barbara Chandler. I highly doubt anyone in Ruckersville is going to get upset Barb got hauled in.

I guess some locals would rather see her hauled out in a bag.

 

[AnOminous]

tl;dr they basically allow evidence of mental illness to be used in a diminished capacity argument again. Back in 1980, they banned such evidence except when attempting an NGRI defense.

That makes a lot of sense from a due process perspective because otherwise you are forced to choose between a probably doomed insanity defense or you've been arguing innocence and now you're suddenly arguing in front of the same jury that the defendant has diminished capacity, probably the first they've even heard this. The jury probably doesn't know you were required to do it that way and it looks like a sneaky defense lawyer trick, like you just sprung this out of nowhere on them.

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

This is Barbara Chandler, that Barbara Chandler. I highly doubt anyone in Ruckersville is going to get upset Barb got hauled in.

I guess some locals would rather see her hauled out in a bag.

Ruckersville:

 

[Pappy Striderite]

If that’s the case we need a rescue plan for the OG copies of the Sonichu comics.

all of barb n bob's immediate family are too old and too normal to comprehend that "the hacker known as 4chan" could ever see real hard cash value in any of cwc's childish scribbles and clay-caked plastic.

now maybe... some young cousin removed, or the child of a nephew/niece of chris, has [wisely] secretly been guiding the places that "temple artifacts" are ending up.

if they can figure out how to min-max the shame to the potential profits of dropping loot at just he right pace -- could it ever be worth the stigma?

if you were 27y/old skyler chandler, maybe you could contact one of the cwc collecting whales and get rid of everything at once. but your damn cousin jasmin chandler was been watching you like a raven for a decade. the only thing keeping her from ruining everything is that none of your elders can even conceive of WTF she's talking about. and all the younger relatives are pronoun collecting ABDL furfags themselves that would immediately change their name to Sonichewtwo.

 

[Miss Misery]

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Title 19.2. Criminal Procedure

law.lis.virginia.gov

No, VA criminal procedure allows a court to have a defendant placed in a designated psychiatric facility if the court determines it appropriate to do so. There are probably only a few backlogged DHHS accredited employees who are able to make the call. When this happens, it's almost like a special form of bail. The judge is letting the inmate out of jail but into DHHS custody.
This is important because there are many jail inmates that a prison hospital or psychiatric unit could handle, but a local jail cannot. They can't be put in a prison hospital because they have no convictions, but they can be put in a state hospital according to intake procedures. Jails don't have the suicide-proofing that hospitals do. They have ways to keep inmates from self harming in the short term, but they bring constitutional challenges long term. Hospitals have doctors who can load Chris on antipsychotics and sedatives until he stops doing whatever they don't want him to do.

This is all how it's supposed to work. I'm sure all of these facilities are filled to the brim and people with serious mental illnesses have to stick it out in local jail all the time. Crazy people who do less serious crimes just get dumped because the state doesn't want to pay for treatment.

He is still technically in Greene County's custody, no matter where he is being held, because he hasn't seen the judge yet.

 

[lurk_moar]

I consider this the dark ages of Christory.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

He is still technically in Greene County's custody, no matter where he is being held, because he hasn't seen the judge yet.

This. I don't mean physical custody, i mean legal custody. He's still Greene County's problem, not the DoC's. When he goes back to CVRJ, he'll be in Greene County's custody, not Orange County's custody, even though he'll be held physically in Orange County.

It's a Greene County judge that will decide if he gets out of the hospital (though they'll basically follow the recommendations of the doctors).

 

[thegooddoctor]

He's insane by normal people definitions, and definitely mentally ill, and none too bright, but wasn't legally insane when he raped Barb (for reasons this thread in general and @Pointless Sperg in particular have gone over fairly exhaustively). The fact they threw him in a bin for the moment does seem to indicate they're at least contemplating his potential incompetence to stand trial and trying to get that resolved before going to trial (or more likely a plea bargain).

He’s not insane, he’s wilfully delusional and profoundly stupid, but according to records he’s never been officially diagnosed with any official mental illness, and he took a folstein test once and got a perfect score, Indictating there Isn’t anything wrong with his general functioning and cognitive abilities. I really don’t see how he’s allowed to be there at all, he’s not incompetent enough or insane enough to go to the loony bin. He should just be charged and sent to the slammer for a year. it’d honestly be easier for everyone involved.

 

[TayandYou]

I consider this the dark ages of Christory.

Would this be the second dark ages since 2010-2014 was also considered a dark age?

 

[AnOminous]

It's a Greene County judge that will decide if he gets out of the hospital (though they'll basically follow the recommendations of the doctors).

Unless Heilberg has the funding and actually chooses to hire his own expert, who will probably be someone who disagrees with the state expert about at least something. If he can maintain Chris's "incompetent" status over a year, the incentive to plead the case out becomes much higher. Or we head to Circuit Court where the rodeo is open to the public.

 

[draggs]

all of barb n bob's immediate family are too old and too normal to comprehend that "the hacker known as 4chan" could ever see real hard cash value in any of cwc's childish scribbles and clay-caked plastic.

now maybe... some young cousin removed, or the child of a nephew/niece of chris, has [wisely] secretly been guiding the places that "temple artifacts" are ending up.

if they can figure out how to min-max the shame to the potential profits of dropping loot at just he right pace -- could it ever be worth the stigma?

if you were 27y/old skyler chandler, maybe you could contact one of the cwc collecting whales and get rid of everything at once. but your damn cousin jasmin chandler was been watching you like a raven for a decade. the only thing keeping her from ruining everything is that none of your elders can even conceive of WTF she's talking about. and all the younger relatives are pronoun collecting ABDL furfags themselves that would immediately change their name to Sonichewtwo.

The extremely most likely place temple artifacts are is the closest landfill to 14 BC. Maybe Barb wouldn't want all that shit tossed but the rest of the family lol heave ho to the sacred relics

 

[Kosher Dill]

He’s not insane, he’s wilfully delusional and profoundly stupid, but according to records he’s never been officially diagnosed with any official mental illness, and he took a folstein test once and got a perfect score, Indictating there Isn’t anything wrong with his general functioning and cognitive abilities. I really don’t see how he’s allowed to be there at all, he’s not incompetent enough or insane enough to go to the loony bin.

We know that, but the jail staff don't because they always hang up on me when I start reading them CWCki articles over the phone.
From their perspective they only know Chris at his worst and it's anyone's guess if he ever "breaks character" in the boring isolation of jail. Plus, if anything he's only gotten worse now that his only mental inputs are the Bible and weens snail-mailing their "spiritual advisor".

Also, every time I see this thread I misread it as "Chris transferred to another reality". THE MERGE IS ON!

 

[Broseph]

get used to it, he's never coming back from that hospital. "and he never returned"

Pretty anticlimactic ending to his story, would've been nice if we got to see him chimp out in court at his hearing and watch him screaming and crying about "mergin' da damenshuns!" as he's dragged away by security to the looney bin.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Barb should get arrested too, until she can prove to a medical professional that she has severe dementia and was unable to consent.

She has almost certainly been exaggerating her condition for sympathy in the past, I don't know how bad her condition is now, but I'm not going to trust Snorlax that easily.

I've said it before, but this is punishment enough for Borb. Now we don't know for """""sure""""" if she was complacent, but if she was. She got what she deserved. I hope that holy sonichu duck healing was worth it Borb.

That being said. I don't think anyone, not even us. Would want to believe she agreed. It's best to just to let her live out the rest of her miserable life as is. There's enough evidence for incest, but I'm positive Barb isn't cooperating and there's not enough evidence for rape. Because let's be honest, do you really want to look deeper into it? I'm sure everyone in Ruckersville just wants it to be over and done with for good.

True, even if Barb is complicit it won't look good for the prosecutors.

Others more experienced with the US legal system have said that the Prosecutor has a choice in what crimes to follow to prosecution and what ones they dont, and it's likely a mix of optics and not wanting to put a elderly woman on trial and I also think this is why Chris hasn't copped a rape charge so far.

I think the Defence, Prosecution and anyone else does privately view what Chris has done as rape or some form of sexual assault but trying a case like this can make emotions run deep and Chris isn't all there in a social understanding if not a legal one so that garners him some leway (teflon tard card) and he's been a neucance legally and publicly for a long time in the area so they just want to find a soloution that makes him not a problem as fast as he can.

 

[Kramer on the phone]

Pretty anticlimactic ending to his story, would've been nice if we got to see him chimp out in court at his hearing and watch him scream as he's dragged away by security to the looney bin.

i like to imagine the biopic ends like big fish, he can't finish the story but we will for him. instead of him going to the loony bin, he wasn't transfered. but sonichu broke him out, rosechu too. but those jerkcops know they can't defeat sonichu and his pals so they didn't even try. they just said he was transferred.

 

[Tennis-Ball-Tony]

I really don’t see how he’s allowed to be there at all, he’s not incompetent enough or insane enough to go to the loony bin.

One of the requirements to get sent to Western that I read was behavioral issues. I still think that was the straw that broke the camel's back and got him sent to the mental hospital. If Chris assumed he was going to have to sign a few papers, and out he'd go, he'd have no reason to seriously take part in what was happening. That might be a factor, but Chris can't keep up the roleplay act for long, which is why I think there was a tard out involved.

i like to imagine the biopic ends like big fish, he can't finish the story but we will for him. instead of him going to the loony bin, he wasn't transfered. but sonichu broke him out, rosechu too. but those jerkcops know they can't defeat sonichu and his pals so they didn't even try. they just said he was transferred.

Or like the end of Brazil.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

He’s not insane, he’s wilfully delusional and profoundly stupid, but according to records he’s never been officially diagnosed with any official mental illness, and he took a folstein test once and got a perfect score, Indictating there Isn’t anything wrong with his general functioning and cognitive abilities. I really don’t see how he’s allowed to be there at all, he’s not incompetent enough or insane enough to go to the loony bin. He should just be charged and sent to the slammer for a year. it’d honestly be easier for everyone involved.

Doesn't matter. If his delusions prevent him from understanding how his court case works -- or at least he *appears* that way, off to the hospital he goes. He doesn't have to be legally insane for this, he just has to be too delusional or too retarded to understand how the justice system works.

Chris has NEVER understood how it works, as evidenced in his comics and rants. The only reason he wasn't declared incompetent in his past court cases is because his attorneys already worked out plea deals where he wouldn't get any further jail time (either just time served, or suspended sentence) and it wasn't worth it for anyone to find him incompetent.

Chris didn't even plead guilty in the Snyder case -- he did an Alford plea, and I doubt he even understood what he was doing then.

In this case though, he's facing actual, real punishment, so they're going to scrutinize him more.

My personal guess is that Heilberg engineered this himself, letting Chris rack up 1 year while getting the treatment he needed that Borb never got him. Then Heilberg will try to get Chris let off with time served, assuming Chris doesn't chimp out.

Unless Heilberg has the funding and actually chooses to hire his own expert, who will probably be someone who disagrees with the state expert about at least something. If he can maintain Chris's "incompetent" status over a year, the incentive to plead the case out becomes much higher. Or we head to Circuit Court where the rodeo is open to the public.

Exactly.

 

[Cockadoodle85]

Doesn't matter. If his delusions prevent him from understanding how his court case works -- or at least he *appears* that way, off to the hospital he goes. He doesn't have to be legally insane for this, he just has to be too delusional or too retarded to understand how the justice system works.

Chris has NEVER understood how it works, as evidenced in his comics and rants. The only reason he wasn't declared incompetent in his past court cases is because his attorneys already worked out plea deals where he wouldn't get any further jail time (either just time served, or suspended sentence) and it wasn't worth it for anyone to find him incompetent.

Chris didn't even plead guilty in the Snyder case -- he did an Alford plea, and I doubt he even understood what he was doing then.

In this case though, he's facing actual, real punishment, so they're going to scrutinize him more.

My personal guess is that Heilberg engineered this himself, letting Chris rack up 1 year while getting the treatment he needed that Borb never got him. Then Heilberg will try to get Chris let off with time served, assuming Chris doesn't chimp out.



Exactly.

What if he has a major chimpout?