Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

[Mariposa Electrique]

But I'll freely admit that Chris is much more creative than I am. I could not have created something as batshit off the wall interesting as Sonichu.

BUT Nintendo and Sega created it. Chris just smashed the two ideas together like a 12 year old simulating a sex act with two Barbies until their body parts begin to fall off.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

BUT Nintendo and Sega created it. Chris just smashed the two ideas together like a 12 year old simulating a sex act with two Barbies until their body parts begin to fall off.

Yes, in a vacuum Sonichu is just a mishmash OC. But the story of Sonichu isn't just Chris being Sonichu's pokemon trainer or something. A lot of interesting stuff happens. Remember there was a LONG period between when Chris created the Sonichu character, and when Chris actually started creating Sonichu lore. After a couple of issues it stops just being Pokemon with Sonic powers.

And yeah Chris steals a lot of ideas, but ultimately that's what all creators do. You have to remix just enough, and eventually it does become something original.

Anchuent Cherokians (that resemble Mormon-style lore), people struggling with their sexual identity, a dark force that is the personification of growing up and having to take responsibility, one man's struggle against an oppressive system, etc.

It's all very childish, but it actually is pretty deep when you analyze it.

 

[omniflash]

Or make him fit to stand trial, or at least to enter a plea.

I'm not sure what that means, But a place like WSH is not going to train him to be on trial. They will likely just observe and evaluate chris and send him back in a couple weeks. I doubt chris will be there long term for now, maybe after the trial an extended stay will be ordered.

 

[Skitterways]

I'm not sure what that means, But a place like WSH is not going to train him to be on trial. They will likely just observe and evaluate chris and send him back in a couple weeks. I doubt chris will be there long term for now, maybe after the trial an extended stay will be ordered.

Go read @JanuaryViolet's post on page 23 of this thread. She explains it well-the training to be on trial aspect.

 

[human trash]

Yes, in a vacuum Sonichu is just a mishmash OC. But the story of Sonichu isn't just Chris being Sonichu's pokemon trainer or something. A lot of interesting stuff happens. Remember there was a LONG period between when Chris created the Sonichu character, and when Chris actually started creating Sonichu lore. After a couple of issues it stops just being Pokemon with Sonic powers.

And yeah Chris steals a lot of ideas, but ultimately that's what all creators do. You have to remix just enough, and eventually it does become something original.

Anchuent Cherokians (that resemble Mormon-style lore), people struggling with their sexual identity, a dark force that is the personification of growing up and having to take responsibility, one man's struggle against an oppressive system, etc.

It's all very childish, but it actually is pretty deep when you analyze it.

pretty deep? chief i respect the work that you've put in around here but don't start talking out of your ass. it's a manchild writing a really terrible autobiography that has pokemon and sonic mashup characters woven into it. it has about as much depth as a paddling pool

 

[Hassa_Bussa]

Yes, in a vacuum Sonichu is just a mishmash OC. But the story of Sonichu isn't just Chris being Sonichu's pokemon trainer or something. A lot of interesting stuff happens. Remember there was a LONG period between when Chris created the Sonichu character, and when Chris actually started creating Sonichu lore. After a couple of issues it stops just being Pokemon with Sonic powers.

And yeah Chris steals a lot of ideas, but ultimately that's what all creators do. You have to remix just enough, and eventually it does become something original.

Anchuent Cherokians (that resemble Mormon-style lore), people struggling with their sexual identity, a dark force that is the personification of growing up and having to take responsibility, one man's struggle against an oppressive system, etc.

It's all very childish, but it actually is pretty deep when you analyze it.

I do think his universe is deep because just how much of the comics is projection of who Chris is and how he thinks. To me sonichu, while heavily plagiarized, is still a very interesting and creative medium Chris has chosen to express himself. There's so much to unpack and analyze.

 

[omniflash]

Go read @JanuaryViolet's post on page 23 of this thread. She explains it well-the training to be on trial aspect.

I guess what I meant is, a place like WSH is not going to do coaching to assist Chris to make sure he can not make a complete ass of himself whenever trial happens. Those are likely questions they are asking him. I do think it's likely he will be transferred back in less than a month though.

 

[Turbocuck]

Yes, in a vacuum Sonichu is just a mishmash OC. But the story of Sonichu isn't just Chris being Sonichu's pokemon trainer or something. A lot of interesting stuff happens. Remember there was a LONG period between when Chris created the Sonichu character, and when Chris actually started creating Sonichu lore. After a couple of issues it stops just being Pokemon with Sonic powers.

And yeah Chris steals a lot of ideas, but ultimately that's what all creators do. You have to remix just enough, and eventually it does become something original.

Anchuent Cherokians (that resemble Mormon-style lore), people struggling with their sexual identity, a dark force that is the personification of growing up and having to take responsibility, one man's struggle against an oppressive system, etc.

It's all very childish, but it actually is pretty deep when you analyze it.

I totally agree with you, Sonichu comics are really interesting. Not because they're good, but because there's so much of Chris in them. A competent author can make a work that has its own voice and its own perspective. Chris is wildly incompetent and has the autistic traits of being unable to step outside his own perspective and not knowing how much of himself to share, so the comics are just pure Chris brain. His weird ass thoughts, values, anxieties, all there on the page.

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I totally agree with you, Sonichu comics are really interesting. Not because they're good, but because there's so much of Chris in them. A competent author can make a work that has its own voice and its own perspective. Chris is wildly incompetent and has the autistic traits of being unable to step outside his own perspective and not knowing how much of himself to share, so the comics are just pure Chris brain. His weird ass thoughts, values, anxieties, all there on the page.

Except Chris isn't exactly unique there. There are authors that write about things from the perspective of hypothetical characters outside of their experience (which is extremely difficult to do), and there are authors that draw deeply on their own experiences and put them into fiction. Many great novels are fiction that are still rooted in the author's own experiences.

Chris falls into a genre I like to call "personal fantasy", where people take their own lives and give them fantastical elements. There's a good series called "Wizardry Compiled" which takes the experiences of a programmer (which the author clearly is) and places them into a fantastical setting, yet still facing the trials and tribulations of working in the industry. C.W. Lemoine writes nice stories about fighter pilots, because he's also a fighter pilot so that's what he knows. Their protagonists are all obvious self-inserts, but the stories are still interesting. The self-inserts just aren't as blatant as Chris'.

Of course Chris is a shitty artist, so it all looks childish, but that can also be part of the appeal. Furthermore Chris is stupid, so he sucks at keeping his plot and world internally consistent, but you can easily level that same accusation at the Bible.

Notably the lore of CWCville is large and expansive, and has gone far, far, beyond a simple Pokemon/Sonic fanfic. Also, there is far worse illustrated fanfic out there, that while having better art and grammar than what Chris can produce, is still less interesting or engaging than Sonichu.

 

[Sharkbait]

I am really curious what effect a structured organized environment will have on Chris.

He will shit himself at 2PM sharp

 

[I swear she's 18]

Notably the lore of CWCville is large and expansive, and has gone far, far, beyond a simple Pokemon/Sonic fanfic. Also, there is far worse illustrated fanfic out there, that while having better art and grammar than what Chris can produce, is still less interesting or engaging than Sonichu.

As poor as Sonichu is. There are definitely worse comics and autistics than Chris. COUGH COUGH "golden knight". Didn't know their people that could go lower than Chris but kiwi manages to surprise me every time.

Sonichu compared to GK is like comparing an official Archie comic to a 9yr old scribbling.

 

[kendraObscura]

This whole thing is Michael Snyder's fault, if he let Chris back into the Gameplace, this would NEVER have happened. it is okay if you disagree, but you're wrong

 

[Ebony Way]

Right, he's creative in the way a person who's had issues with dyslexia tends to be. They're sort of forced to put things together differently, which is disorienting when it comes to doing mundane things but also means when they're presented with data they tend to make connections few "normal" people would. That's why NASA loves dyslexics.

Personally, I always question if "autistic" is just a normal pattern of psychology, and it's only when someone with that psychological makeup is or becomes low functioning enough to drop below a certain threshhold that it becomes pathologized and labeled.
Like imagine someone who had a psychological makeup like Chris' but was "smarter", and developed enough brain power to where they'd be able to learn and piece things together fast enough that they could very effectively mimic ongoing social normalcy. They'd still have similar strengths and weaknesses, but obviously nobody would ever think of calling them "autistic" because their weaker attributes would appear functionally adequate. To everyone on the outside that person would just look like someone who was maybe a bit introverted but very creatively gifted.

To me it doesn't seem unlikely that there are and have been tons of "creative" people out there who are fundamentally very similar to autists like Chris, it's just that him and people like him are very low IQ examples of it.

TL;DR: I wonder if Chris isn't actually that autistic, but rather just really, really fucking stupid.

You came to the wrong conclusion, its more likely that those "creative" people are probably autistic, too.

Not to mention that not seeming autistic to the layperson doesn't mean the person isn't autistic.

Chris used to be a lot more intelligent than he is today. IQ can change over time in either direction depending on what you do with it, and you use it or you lose it. Chris is so fundamentally opposed to using it that he lost it. What there was to lose anyway.

 

[Sharkbait]

This whole thing is Michael Snyder's fault, if he let Chris back into the Gameplace, this would NEVER have happened. it is okay if you disagree, but you're wrong

Blame Megan if only she came for CWC this wouldn't have happened.

 

[BScCollateral]

Chris falls into a genre I like to call "personal fantasy", where people take their own lives and give them fantastical elements.

 

[King Kiwi]

Go read @JanuaryViolet's post on page 23 of this thread. She explains it well-the training to be on trial aspect.

So Chris has to be trained to stand trial like a chimp in a circus.

Of course.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm not sure what that means, But a place like WSH is not going to train him to be on trial. They will likely just observe and evaluate chris and send him back in a couple weeks. I doubt chris will be there long term for now, maybe after the trial an extended stay will be ordered.

They're not "training him to be on trial," they're treating his mental health to the point he's competent to stand trial. That's literally the whole point. You don't get to just nut out one time in a hearing and get permanent housing and never get tried.

D. The competency report. — Upon completion of the evaluation, the evaluators shall promptly submit a report in writing to the court and the attorneys of record concerning (i) the defendant's capacity to understand the proceedings against him; (ii) his ability to assist his attorney; and (iii) his need for treatment in the event he is found incompetent but restorable, or incompetent for the foreseeable future. If a need for restoration treatment is identified pursuant to clause (iii), the report shall state whether inpatient or outpatient treatment (community-based or jail-based) is recommended. Outpatient treatment may occur in a local correctional facility or at a location determined by the appropriate community services board or behavioral health authority. In cases where a defendant is likely to remain incompetent for the foreseeable future due to an ongoing and irreversible medical condition, and where prior medical or educational records are available to support the diagnosis, or if the defendant was previously determined to be unrestorably incompetent in the past two years, the report may recommend that the court find the defendant unrestorably incompetent to stand trial and the court may proceed with the disposition of the case in accordance with § 19.2-169.3.

§ 19.2-169.1(D).

This is assuming they've actually already got the report. He might just be in evaluation and it might have just been delayed this long thanks to coof/whatever.

 

[Cloaca Rimjob]

Blame Megan if only she came for CWC this wouldn't have happened.

Maybe she did alone

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

He's a retard that was raised almost exclusively by and on the internet.

No worse 80's and 90's kid's TV shows that where little more than toy commercials.

Chris still struggled with that CD cover assignment that resulted in "Sonichu", because he just wanted to cover the thing in favorite video game characters. That's all he could think of. Then again, that could've been more of an autistic "special interest" or fixation then, than a lack of creativity - maybe he didn't want anything else.

I get the feeling if Chris was more normal he would be creative, and he wants to be creative he just lacks the real understanding to make anything truly original so he has to borrow as much as he can from other sources to fill the mental gaps he has.

Personally, I always question if "autistic" is just a normal pattern of psychology, and it's only when someone with that psychological makeup is or becomes low functioning enough to drop below a certain threshhold that it becomes pathologized and labeled.
Like imagine someone who had a psychological makeup like Chris' but was "smarter", and developed enough brain power to where they'd be able to learn and piece things together fast enough that they could very effectively mimic ongoing social normalcy. They'd still have similar strengths and weaknesses, but obviously nobody would ever think of calling them "autistic" because their weaker attributes would appear functionally adequate. To everyone on the outside that person would just look like someone who was maybe a bit introverted but very creatively gifted.

To me it doesn't seem unlikely that there are and have been tons of "creative" people out there who are fundamentally very similar to autists like Chris, it's just that him and people like him are very low IQ examples of it.

TL;DR: I wonder if Chris isn't actually that autistic, but rather just really, really fucking stupid.

It has been, over diagnosed and overly cated to and I say that as a Sperg myself, the problem with the way Chris's era was handled even in special schools was that they had a very one sided idea of "Normal" rather than playing into any strengths a person may have and then using special classes to fill in the gaps they may have.

I know a few Artists who are really nice people but have problems socialising and use there art to force a order on the world or explain things to themselfs, they are very smart and want to improve there craft and do out of a genuine passion, but Chris isn't just Autistic, he's retarded in the true sense of the word and he's also got something else going on that's always been glossed over by being Rubber Stamped as Autistic at an early age.

Makes me wonder if his decision to keep many of the original lyrics in his covers + contest entries (Chop Chop Master Onion) are a result of minimal effort, or truly a lack of creativity on his part.

I'd err on it being minimal effort, even in the early days Chris would have been able to find instrumental versions of any sone he wanted even with a simple google search - I can't recall who is was but he complained about having to find a specific version of a song over one he already had, and there was possibly another occasion more recently where he's done it as well.

Right, he's creative in the way a person who's had issues with dyslexia tends to be. They're sort of forced to put things together differently, which is disorienting when it comes to doing mundane things but also means when they're presented with data they tend to make connections few "normal" people would. That's why NASA loves dyslexics.

Your right we tend to be creative in different ways, A lot of Dyslexics tend to work in the trades for this reason we might not be great Artisticly (even if a individual might like it) we're just creative at making things happen in more practical ways, if you read the historys of a lot of the big movers of the Industrial Revolution where Dyslexic to some extent or Spergs as they where often called Technically wonderful but often lacking in social graces.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

So Chris has to be trained to stand trial like a chimp in a circus.

Of course.

I wonder if we show this picture of Chris to the judge, they'll find him not guilty.

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