Feb 28, 2022 - Chris transferred to another facility

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Maintenance levels only if I rember correctly unless there is some medical reason for the dose being adjusted, and I am not sure how that will carry on in the Mental unit he's in, and it's been suspected that he's stopped taking his perscription meds.
Woah woah woah! He's off the hrt!? So you're saying he might actually sober up? Are we finally getting the character development arc we've been waiting for?
 
Stocking shelves during the overnight shift would probably be best.
chris can't be made to work without hiring another person to constantly yell "NO" to every reason he comes up with to stop working.

all discussion of chris doing any action, for anyone, for any reward, requires a bunch of addendums that in essence say,
"if chris wasn't chris, he could..."
of all the "What-If" musings we all waste time on [i'm guilty too], why do people want to imagine chris following directions from a boss without whining and getting fired on purpose like we know he would? i just don't get how it's ever a topic.

null had to wave a carrot on a stick in front of chris every day just to make him trace things and color them. how many commissions were there? 7? some drawings and some video shout-outs in exchange for a $6000 carrot in the shape of a clop orgy. cons are the happiest places chris ever knew, and he was going with GIRLS, but he still needed prodding.

only null could ever get this tiny amount of work from chris.

ask null if chris could be a night-shift stock boy. he, or maybe the Praetor idiots, are the only people qualified to say how hard it is to make chris pick up a pen.
 
Man I can tell you never lived in the hood or worked in a factory.
Chris can easily get a job and a factory because really the only requirement is are you breathing? And slumlords do not give a crap what you are or what you did so long as they get there around time they do not care and you will probably never see them.
He could get a job sure yeah, someone might pitty him just enough to hire him or be very desperate for cheap labour, but is he competent enough to hold down that job, and for how long exactly?

You can probably guess that something would go very wrong soon after being employed. Even though Chris has already been leeching off the state for most of his life, staying on the tugboat is probably what's best for him, so he doesn't end up being a nuisance for multiple parties, bouncing around the job market, wasting people's precoius time.

If he was serious about his work ethic he would have worked on selling his brand along with his artwork, but look where that ended up.
 
You joke but its true. Drug charges, kill a guy? No one cares onces you do your time. Steal a 5 dollar, shitty little trinket? Your fucked pretty much forever, especially because not only do you get the criminal record, you can also be entered into things like APIS which is sorta a database for people who shoplift/steal. I know you can get your record wiped but I think APIS might be permanent.

The lesson here is kids: If your gonna steal, steal smart and steal big.
It's funny, but it was dead serious. Chris's crime, while fucked up, makes him a danger maybe to elderly relatives he has custody over. He still probably wouldn't get a job being alone with any such vulnerable people, but he wouldn't be a menace as a grocery bagger. If you had a practice of hiring speds, you'd probably have employed someone with even worse crimes.

Stealing though means they might steal from you and no employer wants that.
It can't be understated how deeply charges of this nature fuck you over, even outside of getting potential employment.

Imagine you have a sister who just got married, lives on the other side of the USA. You want to send her some baby stuff, possibly from a major vendor. That vendor has a fraud analysis team. They are used to seeing orders that don't make sense on paper; they know you live at billing, but not that your sister lives at shipping, so they can't outright make a connection because she just moved there recently so her exact personal profile is not linked to shipping yet. So, the fraud team will look into your history first, as you are the one supposedly being billed. Oops, you have a theft charge on your history. Will the overworked analyst who cruised through several dozen such cases today bother to dig deeper and find a connection between you and your sister, or will they just look at your history and be like "yea, fuck this guy, blacklist him?" Suddenly you can't get Apple products anymore. Now Amazon knows. Now every other major retailer knows. Oops - no more shipping of goods to your domicile, because you stole a Snickers and a Chef Boyardee can from a Walgreens in 2012 and were caught on tape. Oh, and your sister and her whole family and her new place, too. So it goes.

Just don't steal, folks - it's that simple.
 
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That was kind of the point we were talking about. Being on APIS is a bad thing. Incest doesn't get you there. Being an actual registered sex offender is a pure life ruin. The thing is, though, Chris's reputation is shit. But he's not showing up on APIS, even to the people who consult it. And incest, by itself, doesn't get you registered in Virginia.

So he'd be limited to jobs where he was alone and kept from the public, and jobs where he was highly supervised. Which is what he would have been before the conviction, too. I think as with most potential Chris jobs, it wouldn't be getting the job that was the problem, but keeping it. Being known as a motherfucker would probably get him taunted by co-workers, especially after he got on their nerves, and he'd eventually chimp out and go into hedgehog mode and get fired.
 
That was kind of the point we were talking about. Being on APIS is a bad thing. Incest doesn't get you there. Being an actual registered sex offender is a pure life ruin. The thing is, though, Chris's reputation is shit. But he's not showing up on APIS, even to the people who consult it. And incest, by itself, doesn't get you registered in Virginia.

So he'd be limited to jobs where he was alone and kept from the public, and jobs where he was highly supervised. Which is what he would have been before the conviction, too. I think as with most potential Chris jobs, it wouldn't be getting the job that was the problem, but keeping it. Being known as a motherfucker would probably get him taunted by co-workers, especially after he got on their nerves, and he'd eventually chimp out and go into hedgehog mode and get fired.
Absolutely, wasn't trying to detract from what y'all were saying, wanted to add to it by pointing out that even outside of the workplace, you would lose opportunities that you might never have expected to be in the balance at all, such as being able to order things from Amazon, Apple, etc. shipped directly to your house. And they can take your whole family down too, if they suspect that they are ordering for you in your place. Literally takes one click from an analyst to fuck your whole life up and make sure you have to drive to stores for the rest of your life to get what you need, which is laughable in 2022. Not that this is relevant to Chris Chan, but I figured it was worthwhile to add to the discussion.

Closer to the main topic, there are warehouse jobs which would be right up his alley because they are structured almost entirely like a prison system. Imagine you are in a room where there are the following:

1. A disgusting dumpster with a compactor.
2. The lever which does the compacting.
3. A door through which people come and go, dumping stuff into the dumpster.

Your job is to keep the area clean and press the lever to do the compacting. It requires zero training, and there is almost no chance of you fucking up because someone has to be holding the lever in order to do the compacting, so you can't compact yourself by accident. The walls are blank. The smell is rancid so you wear a mask, usually with something rubbed on the inside to make the experience more pleasant. There is no phone, no TV, no technology period. I can imagine Chris being able to survive in this position: 10+ hours of day dreaming with infrequent interruptions to hold a lever like a monkey, a super that makes the rounds and reminds him that it is time to brush the stuff that fell out into the dumpster, and will yell at him progressively louder every time he comes back and sees any trash from last time he was there over an hour ago. I can totally see Chris managing to stick through that, if given enough motivation.

The problem is that motivation, though, as many have alluded to. I think that by now, Chris is firmly unhappy with being imprisoned or sent to a loony bin. So, if that is hanging over his head, I think he might be more pliable. That's really the only way.
 
It's funny, but it was dead serious. Chris's crime, while fucked up, makes him a danger maybe to elderly relatives he has custody over. He still probably wouldn't get a job being alone with any such vulnerable people, but he wouldn't be a menace as a grocery bagger. If you had a practice of hiring speds, you'd probably have employed someone with even worse crimes.

Stealing though means they might steal from you and no employer wants that.
Dude, if he gets nailed as a sex offender, he can get one job. Washing dishes. NO ONE touches them.
 
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Dude, if he gets nailed as a sex offender, he can get one job. Washing dishes. NO ONE touches them.
Only being an RSO is going to nuke him more than just his reputation. He is a known motherfucker at this point whether or not he's convicted, and if he's convicted just of that, he's not even an RSO.
 
Most house flippers have seen worse, I'm sure. 14 Branchland is fairly average for the shit they deal with.

I'm not sure where this idea that the Chandler house is the absolute most disgusting, run down hovel in the country comes from, but I can assure you there are houses out there that were in much worse condition before being renovated and sold.
Yes, I honestly think it would be a treat for a cleanup crew. They’ve seen much worse damage and decay by a mile. Plus, as gross as it is, it would at least be an interesting gross. Much more fun than trying to clean mud and silt out of a flood damaged house
 
Yes, I honestly think it would be a treat for a cleanup crew. They’ve seen much worse damage and decay by a mile. Plus, as gross as it is, it would at least be an interesting gross. Much more fun than trying to clean mud and silt out of a flood damaged house
When I was in hospital two years ago I watched a show about hoard clearing because I was bored out of my mind. There was one apartment that was so full of crap that the cleaners had to basically wear HAZMAT suits and get the thinnest coworker they had on call to even get into some rooms. So yeah, they've seen worse than the Temple.

By the way, is it possible to have the process of clearing it out photographed? Asking for a friend.
 
it depends on way to many factors we don't know about his situation right now.

for instance, an extreme counter to your theory:
chris is on mood stabilizers and anti-psychotics, they tend to fatten people up alot and
increase appetite. he wont be getting any real cardio exercise in a straight jacket. "resistance training" :P struggling against his restraints could even damage his heart. and if they are force feeding him nothing but protein shakes he won't have any energy and he'll look sickly and doughy AF. that shit will keep you alive but it's just not real food.

see? the truth is in the middle somewhere.
Yes, I honestly think it would be a treat for a cleanup crew. They’ve seen much worse damage and decay by a mile. Plus, as gross as it is, it would at least be an interesting gross. Much more fun than trying to clean mud and silt out of a flood damaged house

Only because they had to burn the house down one time, never forget when Chris burned down his own home a few yeara ago.
 
Woken up by 8am, given morning meds, breakfast, an hour of group therapy, sit around doing nothing until lunch, afternoon meds, potentially an hour of outdoor time in a secure yard, potentially some one-on-one time with the doctor, sit around doing nothing most of the rest of the day, dinner, evening meds, sit around some more until bedtime. There may be a common room with a small TV tuned to talk shows or news along with some cards and boardgames, but only if he's being cooperative and following doctors directions. He can nap the day away if he wants, as long as he's not causing trouble and going to his diagnostic meetings with the doctor. It's really fucking boring in mental facilities. He won't be allowed to have his phone or iPod since the charging and headphone cables could potentially be used by himself or another patient to asphyxiate themselves. Just a whole lot of fuck and all to do.
More minor thing I’m wondering, will Chris be allowed or have acces to any video games there? It’s unlikely but I hear Jails often have commissaries that allow them old bootleg mini games consoles or game boys to buy if on good behaviour, would that exist at the hospital or be strongly prohibited?
 
Man I can tell you never lived in the hood or worked in a factory.
Chris can easily get a job and a factory because really the only requirement is are you breathing? And slumlords do not give a crap what you are or what you did so long as they get there around time they do not care and you will probably never see them.
I know Chris can get a job, but I also know he won’t get a job. He’s relied on his tugboat and mommy and grifting for 20 years; I don’t see him changing. He’s too lazy for work.

As for Chris living in a slummy apartment like that? I can see that happening and I can see it going bad for him. I really think some kind of group home would be best for him, but being a sex offender makes that more difficult.
 
I really think some kind of group home would be best for him, but being a sex offender makes that more difficult.
He’s not being charged with rape and it doesn’t look like he’ll end up on the registry. It would just make everyone’s lives harder if he was. The people figuring out what to do with him likely want him in a group home because there he would have someone keeping an eye on him in exchange for the tugboat. No one wants Chris wandering the streets bothering people and causing trouble.
 
More minor thing I’m wondering, will Chris be allowed or have acces to any video games there? It’s unlikely but I hear Jails often have commissaries that allow them old bootleg mini games consoles or game boys to buy if on good behaviour, would that exist at the hospital or be strongly prohibited?
The jail games are more like those X-in-1 game consoles filled with ports/clones/garbage. His jail does not offer this.
The people figuring out what to do with him likely want him in a group home because there he would have someone keeping an eye on him in exchange for the tugboat.
I don't know, it's pretty :optimistic:. The system honestly doesn't give a shit what happens to Chris. Just google "Virginia news arrest" to see how busy the courts and social services are. When Chris gets out jail it will be on him to take care of himself. Especially in Virginia where Chris just isn't violent enough.
Virginia said:
The Virginia statute governing civil commitment requires a judicial determination by clear and convincing evidence that the person has a mental illness presenting a substantial likelihood that “the person will, in the near future, cause serious physical harm to himself or others as evidenced by recent behavior causing, attempting, or threatening harm . . . or suffer serious harm due to his lack of capacity to protect himself from harm or to provide for his basic human needs”
that doesn't really sound like chris
 
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