Feminism discussion thread

[Ealen]

Can we please stop talking about your dick for a second? I swear the moids are intent on not getting the premise of a feminist thread.

Like it or not, if men don't care about your movement it will fail.

 

[Lurker]

What is a woman?

XX chromosomes, generally is able to get pregnant and give birth (some women are sadly infertile )

edit:

Like it or not, if men don't care about your movement it will fail.

kill all men

 

[Tilapia]

So there is no way to know what is legitimate Feminism?

Use your fucking brain, maybe? There is no Pope of Feminism who issues decrees for feminists to follow. Do you also get easily confused by broadly defined groups such as "liberal" or "conservative," despite them having different meanings to different people? "Feminism," broadly speaking, is a movement that advocates for women's human rights. Individual "feminist" stances, as with stances that are labelled "liberal" or "conservative", need to be evaluated on their merits, and there is a lot of room for disagreement. If you want to get into the weeds about the different types of feminism that have existed throughout human history, and evaluate which ones you agree with and which ones you don't, perhaps you should become a Women's Studies major.

 

[Stan]

Like it or not, if men don't care about your movement it will fail.

No. Women could pull it off alone if we really had to. It would hurt, but we could do it. Especially with advanced reproductive techniques... I'm talking feminist space colonies with 25 tubes of diverse Chad sperm. Human society and civilization could yet thrive even after tons of men die. That's demonstrated in the World Wars. If men refuse to care about the movement, they will be run over by it.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

What is a woman?

XX chromosomes, generally is able to get pregnant and give birth (some women are sadly infertile )

edit:

kill all men

That's what some Feminists believe. But the Democrats are currently in power, and their Feminism says trannies are also women.

So it really depends on which Feminism you ask. Sometimes Feminism supports mutilated men as women, like the Biden administration does.

 

[Lurker]

That's what some Feminists believe. But the Democrats are currently in power, and their Feminism says trannies are also women.

So it really depends on which Feminism you ask. Sometimes Feminism supports mutilated men as women, like the Biden administration does.

"muh democrats" no1currs about your politisperging, this is BP. and no, that's just a biological fact. some feminists may believe otherwise, but they are, once again, wrong and misguided.

"muh biden administration" lol fuck off

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

"muh democrats" no1currs about your politisperging, this is BP. and no, that's just a biological fact. some feminists may believe otherwise, but they are, once again, wrong and misguided.

"muh biden administration" lol fuck off

It's not politisperging. The party in power in the executive branch believes that trannies are also women and that Feminism is for them.

The "trannies are women too" denomination is just as much Feminism as yours.

 

[Lurker]

It's not politisperging. The party in power in the executive branch believes that trannies are also women and that Feminism is for them.

cool, but they're still wrong and misguided. they also don't speak for all feminists. and yeah, it's politisperging lol

The trannies are women too denomination is just as much Feminism as yours.

he's grasping it! HE'S GRASPING IT!

 

[Stan]

The "trannies are women too" denomination is just as much Feminism as yours.

Gay Jewish Man Disgusted by Women Mansplains Feminism

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

cool, but they're still wrong and misguided. they also don't speak for all feminists. and yeah, it's politisperging lol

he's grasping it! HE'S GRASPING IT!

So until you declare which Feminism you support, why should I support you? Why should I support any undeclared Feminism? I might unknowingly support a type which is about men as women

 

[Lurker]

So until you declare which Feminism you support, why should I support you? Why should I support any undeclared Feminism? I might unknowingly support a type which is about men as women

oh my lord, holy shit, you are actually genuinely stupid. like i can't-

edit: "which feminism". nigger, it doesn't matter, holy SHIT. supporting equal rights for women is feminism. anything beyond that is irrelevant.

 

[skekChuck]

It's a very unstable grouping for numerous reasons. There's a ton of baggage attached to the term, the idea of "equality between the sexes" is so vague as to be meaningless, and that belief which is often put forth as the sole value that one needs hold to qualify as a feminist is far from the only belief that the vast majority of feminists espouse. If I were to declare myself a feminist on that basis, my view on abortion among other beliefs would lead most feminists to disavow me. It seems to speak more to a mindset than an actual set of solid beliefs.

Ultimately I think feminism has failed as a liberating force for women. While there are some positive developments that have been outlined in this thread like outlawing marital rape, I don't think encouraging women to join the workforce and pursue positions of leadership has been a fruitful endeavor. I think it introduces, or at least exacerbates, the drop in fertility that many developed countries are facing. And are women happier? It doesn't seem like it. Between men and women, I think there is a brighter future we would all like to see, which is why it's important, rather than blaming each other for the reason we're not there yet (Incels and Man-haters alike) is counterproductive and dumb. Instead, we need to come to some mutual understanding about the different roles men and women must play in creating that future.

I have come to love early feminist thought. Mary Wollstonecraft and Abigail Adam’s being my favorites. An educated, stoic woman is more beneficial in a household rather than the “dumb kitchen slave.” (Which btw only exist in brown countries nowadays).
What I love about them is that they look at life through the lens of family. We are individuals but we have a duty to family. What better way to fix the system than by joining hands with our opposites and working through this? Society cannot live without either. A species cannot exist in this manner.
We have to find our strengths, acknowledge our shortcomings, and use these to our advantage.

I am saddened that egalitarianism as a movement died a long time ago. I miss those days.

Fertility is dropping everywhere. I think another failure of feminism is creating a generation of women who are more scared of their own bodies than being educated about it. We should embrace our bodies and learn all we can about them to counteract the medical oppression we face. Our uterus is our friend should be considered a vital sign of health.

Moral of the story, ladies, don’t be crabs in a bucket.

 

[Ealen]

No. Women could pull it off alone if we really had to. It would hurt, but we could do it. Especially with advanced reproductive techniques... I'm talking feminist space colonies with 25 tubes of diverse Chad sperm. Human society and civilization could yet thrive even after tons of men die. That's demonstrated in the World Wars. If men refuse to care about the movement, they will be run over by it.

I for one would be very interested to see how that experiment would conclude.

In reality, a movement lacking any male backing is deprived of the resources necessary to make a significant difference. Women aren't going to launch some kind of sex-based insurgency or shoot off to space with vials of sperm to create a feminist utopia on Mars. These would both fail, the former in the short-term, the latter in the long term.

The way I see it, men and women are both getting fucked over today, albeit in different ways. And the way I see things going, I empathize with women, I really do, but it's frustrating as hell when some shitskin murders a woman in cold blood following a botched rape attempt, and then the ensuing outrage is focused at all men as opposed to an imported demographic that is creating an increasingly unsafe environment, particularly for women.

 

[Mankirk]

Gay Jewish Man Disgusted by Women Mansplains Feminism

And does better than women. Go figure.

 

[Lurker]

Fertility is dropping everywhere. I think another failure of feminism is creating a generation of women who are more scared of their own bodies than being educated about it. We should embrace our bodies and learn all we can about them to counteract the medical oppression we face. Our uterus is our friend should be considered a vital sign of health.

is it fertility or just whether or not women are choosing to get pregnant. because pregnancy is hell on a woman's body and there's plenty of reason for women to not want kids, from the aforementioned fact that pregnancy is hell on the body, and also that, economically, it's difficult to support a baby (referring to US specifically).

it's not a matter if being scared of our bodies, it's a matter of not wanting to go through that and having the choice not to.

 

[skekChuck]

oh my lord, holy shit, you are actually genuinely stupid. like i can't-

edit: "which feminism". nigger, it doesn't matter, holy SHIT. supporting equal rights for women is feminism. anything beyond that is irrelevant.

It absolutely does matter, you dumb bitch.

Are you a feminist who takes tranny dick? Or are you a TERF?

These standards are important because we need to know who we should disown as women. We need to know who are traitors to our sex.

is it fertility or just whether or not women are choosing to get pregnant. because pregnancy is hell on a woman's body and there's plenty of reason for women to not want kids, from the aforementioned fact that pregnancy is hell on the body, and also that, economically, it's difficult to support a baby (referring to US specifically).

it's not a matter if being scared of our bodies, it's a matter of not wanting to go through that and having the choice not to.

Forever chemicals, poor diets, lack of exercise are contributing to a legitimate drop in fertility.

This is becoming more documented across the world. And the problem is if women aren’t ovulating like they should, there are risks of cancer, thyroid issues, etc.
it’s a legitimate health concern if you have lowered rates of fertility.

 

[Lurker]

It absolutely does matter, you dumb bitch.

Are you a feminist who takes tranny dick? Or are you a TERF?

These standards are important because we need to know who we should disown as women. We need to know who are traitors to our sex.

you don't /need/ to choose a subsect. that's what i don't get with you spergs. you can just be a feminist.

"traitor" lol. disowning your sisters? pretty shitty thing to do, if you ask me. idk, that just seems like something a moid would do. "UR A GENDERTRAITOR". idk, it's dumb to me.

Forever chemicals, poor diets, lack of exercise are contributing to a legitimate drop in fertility.

This is becoming more documented across the world. And the problem is if women aren’t ovulating like they should, there are risks of cancer, thyroid issues, etc.
it’s a legitimate health concern if you have lowered rates of fertility.

i'll take your word for it, but i also don't care.

 

[skekChuck]

you don't /need/ to choose a subsect. that's what i don't get with you spergs. you can just be a feminist.

"traitor" lol. disowning your sisters? pretty shitty thing to do, if you ask me. idk, that just seems like something a moid would do. "UR A GENDERTRAITOR". idk, it's dumb to me.

i'll take your word for it, but i also don't care.

You can’t just be a feminist. You literally have “sisters” who wish to see your demise in the name of men, Jews, and blacks.

I absolutely will set a boundary on these sex traitors.
Live in truth or perish in lies.

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

Feminists are sooooo stooopid!!! This is why I am not like other girls, I would never be such a nagging old ugly dyke who just goes "blah blah I don't want to be raped and murdered blah blah" all the men I know wouldn't even rape and murder you cause you are FAT and not hot like me. And anyways men getting falsely accused of rape is a much bigger issue. That's why I am a Men's Rights Activist instead, because I know we live in a GYNOCRACY run by KARENS. You catty Karens probably don't even enjoy Warhammer and eating a whole pizza unlike me. Meow meow go screeching at each other all day while me and the boys laugh at our farts, that's what real humor is btw. Anyways I am gonna shut up now cause nobody wants to hear women talk teeheeheehee! XD going to make a sandwich for a MAN!

Do you have a boyfriend? I bet so many guys dm you haha. Your very intelligant for a woman. Totally wife material. Do you have an OnlyFans?

 

[Ealen]

Forever chemicals, poor diets, lack of exercise are contributing to a legitimate drop in fertility.

This is becoming more documented across the world. And the problem is if women aren’t ovulating like they should, there are risks of cancer, thyroid issues, etc.
it’s a legitimate health concern if you have lowered rates of fertility.

This is true, but in this context, fertility refers to birthrate, and while these issues are certainly contributing, I think there are socioeconomic factors playing a role here, because the effect is not universal. For example, low IQ people on average tend to have more children than high IQ people which, to me, signals an economic effect (foresight, better ability to plan for unexpected developments) rather than the aggregate effect of chemical imbalance.

is it fertility or just whether or not women are choosing to get pregnant. because pregnancy is hell on a woman's body and there's plenty of reason for women to not want kids, from the aforementioned fact that pregnancy is hell on the body, and also that, economically, it's difficult to support a baby (referring to US specifically).

I don't buy this idea that lower fertility is the result of some childless WGTOW phenomenon. I think people have an implicit desire to have children. If they didn't no one would have them, for the reasons mentioned. From what I'm aware of the scientific literature, the effect of children on happiness was initially positive, but disappeared over time, indicating, once more, an economic effect. Whether you respect bodily autonomy or not, fewer children being born is a disaster for the future, especially given the dysgenic problem I've outlined previously.