Feminism discussion thread

[Stan]

If you had a son, you shouldn’t allow the doctors to circumcise him. He is not capable of consenting to a permanent change that does permanent damage. I hate trying to rate this stuff as less worse to more worse because it’s equally terrible to do anything to a kid who can’t consent.

I’m baffled that we really want to diminish issues just because we “I feel it’s not that bad.” Like holy fuck. Taking a stand on all nonconsensual body changes should be child’s rights issue and that’s what equality should be.

FWIW if I had a son I wouldn't circumcise him, but coomers getting hysterical about their circumcision in response to a feminist discussion thread feels more like an effort to recenter the discussion around men and their dicks yet again.

 

[Radion_Godiva]

Can feminism be improvised from its current state though?

Yes, simply add trannies, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[Mankirk]

It should be referred to as Male Genital Mutilation, or MGM

 

[Otterly]

In a word: yes. What are you getting at? That you can't be feminist cause occasionally a feminist says something cringe?

No, I mean how do we return to a concept that’s aimed at equality, and is sustainable and beneficial.
No movement for equality will be long term sustainable if it creates massive divide and resentment. Current year extreme feminism does - it wants things that dehumanise men and women. Sexual safety (eg criminalisation of marital rape, rape being taken seriously) has been replaced as a goal with sexual degeneracy. Being seen as men’s equal-but-different has been replaced with this weird mix of man bashing and wanting to emulate the worst bits of men. The pushback is men hating women, and troons erasing the very definition of women. None of that is sustainable, it’s going to do a lot of damage.
How do you dial it back to the core, which is work together, use strengths, support each others weaknesses and treat women like humans not chattel?
I’m very much against male circumcision- I think it’s a barbaric and pointless thing to do to a baby. It’s allowed becasue if the religious lobbies, and the vast power a specific one of them has. Look at what happened to Iceland when they tried to ban it

 

[Dyn]

No, I mean how do we return to a concept that’s aimed at equality, and is sustainable and beneficial.

I think the only way would be to stun men with a campaign of violence and terror so indiscriminate and genocidal that they give up their expectations of continued patriarchal oppression and count themselves lucky to get offered equality.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Motherhood is real labor and the government should pay UBI for it.

UBI is perma-welfare. Money should be earned. UBI comes from taxpayers, and the only net contributors to the welfare scheme are men. Men would rather start and fund our own families than be taxed for that of others, including wanton single mothers parasitizing the dole. If the state pays for your children then it feels entitled to use them. Children is a function of family, not government.

Oddly enough you will never see the antifeminists endorse this idea, though.

That speaks more to the quality of the idea than your opponents. UBI opens the way to owing the state, and the state obligating you in return, rather than just doing its job and protecting commerce and wages from corporations.

In a word: yes. What are you getting at? That you can't be feminist cause occasionally a feminist says something cringe?
If women don't fight to maintain what rights and freedoms we've got, the men will quickly reverse those rights. You can see men in this thread salivating over that possibility, and the oppression is within your living memory. Do you really want to go back?

By electing Feminism-endorsed Democrats, you've reversed those rights. Ketanji Nigger Jackson was confirmed to the highest judicial office in the land, and she refused to answer when asked what is a woman, saying "I'm not a biologist." Fight for women ... by supporting leaders who can't even say what a woman is? That's who will decide your rights? Make Feminism Make Sense.

I think the only way would be to stun men with a campaign of violence and terror so indiscriminate and genocidal that they give up their expectations of continued patriarchal oppression and count themselves lucky to get offered equality.

If that ever happened, foreign men would just come in and oppress you. You won't get another suffragette for a century at least.

 

[Otterly]

I think the only way would be to stun men with a campaign of violence and terror so indiscriminate and genocidal that they give up their expectations of continued patriarchal oppression and count themselves lucky to get offered equality.

I think the Spice Girls tried that…

You should have the doctor cut his whole dick off so he doesn't grow up to be a sexual predator like 99% of men.

Not even sure that would work: evidence, troons.

 

[Dyn]

I think the Spice Girls tried that…

But they didn't try it with nailbombs.

 

[AmberHeardSupporter]

that’s what equality should be.

You should have the doctor cut his whole dick off so he doesn't grow up to be a sexual predator like 99% of men.

You said it king!

No, I mean how do we return to a concept that’s aimed at equality, and is sustainable and beneficial.

Feminism is not about equality. It’s about WOMENS rights and Freedoms and liberation. This equality shit is what killed the movement. Fuck men fuck faggots and fuck trannies theyre not apart of it. Feminsim is for women only fuck everything else

 

[Tilapia]

By electing Feminism-endorsed Democrats, you've reversed those rights. Ketanji Nigger Jackson was confirmed to the highest judicial office in the land, and she refused to answer when asked what is a woman, saying "I'm not a biologist." Fight for women ... by supporting leaders who can't even say what a woman is? That's who will decide your rights? Make Feminism Make Sense.

Have you ever watched a Supreme Court nomination hearing before? The whole point is to give vague and non-committal answers. Like it or not, the question "What is a woman?" is currently being debated in courts. It would be stupid for her to give a hard definition for the word "woman" that she would be bound to, without hearing arguments or even knowing what the case is. I trust her to protect women's rights more than the hyper-partisan Federalist Society hacks that Republicans have been appointing for decades now.

 

[Lurker]

Current year extreme feminism does - it wants things that dehumanise men and women.

what

Being seen as men’s equal-but-different has been replaced with this weird mix of man bashing and wanting to emulate the worst bits of men.

what

The pushback is men hating women, and troons erasing the very definition of women.

men already hate women. and by troons, you mean 'men'.

you're an insufferable pickme.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

Feminism is not about equality. It’s about WOMENS rights and Freedoms and liberation. This equality shit is what killed the movement.

And the maximum you can take those rights and freedoms to is roughly equal to men, or it won't work.

Fuck men fuck faggots

Gay men don't need the women's movement. Nice slur though for a PC adherent.

and fuck trannies theyre not apart of it. Feminsim is for women only fuck everything else

For feeling (let alone voicing) this sentiment, Feminism labels you TERF and casts you out of the movement. You're now an enemy of the lefty establishment, a transmisogynist and a TERF. Welcome to your movement.

 

[AmberHeardSupporter]

what

what

men already hate women. and by troons, you mean 'men'.

you're an insufferable pickme.

off topic but what does the drink sticker mean?

And the maximum you can take those rights and freedoms to is roughly equal to men, or it won't work.

Gay men don't need the women's movement. Nice slur though for a PC adherent.

For feeling (let alone voicing) this sentiment, Feminism labels you TERF and casts you out of the movement. You're now an enemy of the lefty establishment, a transmisogynist and a TERF. Welcome to your movement.

nigga who tf said I was pc lmao fuck trannies fuck faggots fuck moids fuck towelheads fuck niggers I’m not even a feminist I just hate men.

 

[Lurker]

Feminism labels you TERF and casts you out of the movement. You're now an enemy of the lefty establishment, a transmisogynist and a TERF. Welcome to your movement.

lol look at this moid pretending he knows about the feminist movement

off topic but what does the drink sticker mean?

it's like saying "cheers to that"

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

lol look at this moid pretending he knows about the feminist movement

I know, right? It contradicts itself so much its hard to know what it stands for.

Unfortunately mutilated men are considered women by establishment Feminism, so I don't think there's any way to make sense of it. It's almost inscrutable as a policy.

 

[AmberHeardSupporter]

lol look at this moid pretending he knows about the feminist movement

it's like saying "cheers to that"

Yeah but tbh he’s right here. At the end of the day. my views on feminism are low, but I’ll NEVER side with anti feminist males

 

[Lurker]

Yeah but tbh he’s right here. At the end of the day. my views on feminism are low, but I’ll NEVER side with anti feminist males

nah, moid's retarded as always.

feminism isn't a monolith, there are different versions of it. I don't subscribe to the "trannies r wimmin" shit, I just want women to be treated like human beings and not like incubation chambers or punching bags.

 

[skekChuck]

nigga who tf said I was pc lmao fuck trannies fuck faggots fuck moids fuck towelheads fuck niggers I’m not even a feminist I just hate men.

I agree with most. Just find myself in the middle of no-man’s land.

You forgot Jews tho

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

feminism isn't a monolith

They all call themselves Feminism, though. How can we tell which ones were being asked to agree with? Why are Feminists not cleaning house and throwing out anyone who can't define woman? Why do I have to memorize their denominational splits? You are all Feminists for no reason other than you all call yourselves that.

there are different versions of it.

Which versions are the "good" ones? I need to know in case a Feminist of the "bad" type tries to correct me.

I don't subscribe to the "trannies r wimmin" shit,

okay, but you won't get anywhere on a Democratic platform as a TERF, and you're not making friends on the right as a Feminist of any type. You're outside the acceptability window at different borders.

I just want women to be treated like human beings and not like incubation chambers

don't spread until married

or punching bags.

don't date a nigger (also applies above)

 

[skekChuck]

Why do I have to memorize their denominational splits?

I can’t call myself a feminist because of this fact alone. It’s religion basically.

If that ever happened, foreign men would just come in and oppress you. You won't get another suffragette for a century at least.

They already are. Look at the refugee camps in Wisconsin and Minnesota.
They had to remove female national guards from those places due to rampant assault.

The darker the skin, the darker the brain it seems.

It's insanely ironic that a thread about feminism is turning into a trash fire by a woman.

You’re not the only one noticing this.
But radicals will be radicals.

It’s a nice laugh too.