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- Aug 2, 2021
Lmao ask SSj_ness and Norbert how it worked out for them.
Anyway. Time for some real feminism for the thread. So I’m going to put down some basic ideas and guidelines; other women, please feel free to critique/contribute:
What is feminism?
Feminism is a social movement that promotes the liberation of women from our current patriarchal system. Feminists campaign for the full enfranchisement of women’s rights.
Which rights?
In our current system, men enjoy more rights and freedoms than women do. Women are discriminated against in the job market and socially because of their position as caregivers and the biological necessities of childbearing. We don’t have full control over our bodies (especially with regards to reproduction), we can be forced to babysit a destructive man and the consequences of his behavior (see: Ethan Ralph, Ralph’s mom, and Ralph’s wives) and we are economically discriminated against and even legally disadvantaged to discourage us from leaving dysfunctional men.
What is patriarchy?
Patriarchy is the system by which men keep us in a submissive and disadvantaged position. Patriarchal men are always quick to justify that this is done for the good of women. Men believe we are incapable of any task they want to reserve as a man’s space and designed by God for the chores men don’t want to do. Patriarchy regards women as objects and assets to be traded between other men, instead of persons in their own right. Patriarchy seeks to deprive women of their agency and force them to make choices within the limits of what men find acceptable. (And what is acceptable is always changing, so women find themselves at the beck and call of men.)
All men are taught patriarchal ideology from birth. In order to accept feminism men have to undergo a period of de programming.
What’s in it for men?
Most men need to hear why feminism would benefit them, because they’re selfish children who need to center every conversation around their dicks and what gets their dicks hard. However, feminism does net benefit most men, because patriarchy benefits only a handful of men who enjoy positions of power. Within patriarchy, 99.9% of men are canned labor and disposable fighters. The remaining 0.1% benefit from patriarchy at the expense of these men. Within patriarchy, it’s normal for powerful men to send weaker ones to war, to exploit the profit of male work, and teach men self-neglect and unhealthy coping mechanisms. It’s normal in patriarchy for men to be drinking themselves blotto every night and smashing up furniture in frustration. Patriarchal thought trains men to blame women for the injuries incurred serving the patriarchy and scapegoats women as the reason men suffer.
What do women want?
Nothing less than the same rights afforded to men. Some specific examples:
1) Equal pay for equal work.
Since the women’s US soccer team is objectively better than the men’s (it is) then the women should receive at least the same amount of pay as the men's team does, if not more.
2) right to reproductive decision making. It is immoral and cruel to make a woman have a baby she doesn’t want to have. It’s cruel to make a woman carry a baby with no chance of survival ex utero. Women will avoid getting abortions if effective birth control is readily obtainable to them.
3) right to our own industry and ideas. The number of instances of men stealing women’s ideas and presenting them as their own invention is staggering. These guys need to be persecuted for intellectual property theft but they are not.
4) legal protection from male violence. Men too often get away with physical abuse and sexual assault because other men look the other way. Even men charged with upholding the law and keeping the peace are quick to toss off rape allegations as a “he said-she said” crime. Rape is thereby a process by which all men keep all women in a state of fear.
5) when applicable, separate facilities and women's competitive leagues so women may exercise, swim, compete in sports, etc. without the interference of men.
Frequently Yelled Statements
> You slits just want female supremacy over men!
This is a common misconception among anti-feminist men, who fear that if the playing field were leveled women would do them as they have done to women. Thankfully women are less prone to violence and vengeance than males. There is nothing to gain from simply swapping positions with men in the patriarchy - then women would simply face the problems men do.
> Feminism has gone too far!
No, it hasn't gone far enough. Women in first-world western countries may be guaranteed on paper, but in practice these rights are curtailed by men's sexism and male political initiatives seeking to abridge our rights. There are also many countries and places in the world where female enfranchisement is not guaranteed by the law or recognized by men.
> You're just saying this because you're an ugly FAT cow! I wouldn't even rape you!
Well thank goodness for that! Women also live in fear of male violence generally. If they are not thinking about raping you then men are probably thinking about how to steal your purse.
> Well I'm a woman and I don't need feminism because I'm hot/work full time/have a beautiful trad family/am Catholic!
Don't get too comfy. The same antifeminist men giving you asspats and updoots today will turn on you in an instant if you dare to disagree with them, and then they will blame you for making them so angry. Men are not going to respect you more if you pay into sexism to set yourself apart from "the other girls"; you're just reinforcing in his mind that it's OK to be sexist towards you when it suits him. As for skills and attributes like beauty, work, motherhood, religion, that actually do set you apart from other women: you will never win with these. A man will praise one attribute with one corner of his mouth and deride it with the other. Sexist men will never promote women out of being subordinate to them, no matter how many other women they dunk on to grind reputation with the men.
