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I will just offer a general reply to certain subjects raised here. Feminism is as much of a problem as the idea of personal liberty is, because it is based on the absurd notion that 1) people actually have individual autonomy, as opposed to having the illusion of personal choice predetermined by environment, cultural milieu, and myriad other external factors 2) people really are not and SHOULD not be free because what any one person does affects everyone else. Even the idea that an individual's body is his own is bunk, and we see that in regards to men in times of war or national crisis. Matt Walsh recently made a video discussing that, saying that people do not and should not have complete bodily autonomy, that to belong in a society comes with obligations to each other, and he's spot on. The Daily Wire maybe a mossad propaganda tool but I still like much (although not all) of his commentary.

Feminism is a necessary antecedent to the demographic implosion that has afflicted Europe and the west, and unless it and liberal democracy as a whole are not rebuked in the next twenty or thirty years, the trajectory to racial and civilizational suicide will likely be intractable, if it is not already.

I highly recommend Pat Buchanan's Death of the West on this. Black Pigeon Speaks also did some videos that have been shoahed but I think are available on bitchute.

I will also note that feminism has by and large made everyone miserable, not just men but the women who adhere to its more pernicious tenets. A few days ago some wokescold was carrrying on about the difficulties and sadness of being in her 40s without being married or having kids. The creator Sex and the City famously recanted and stated she regrets making the decisions held up as role model behavior that ruined generations of women (along with the 60s, hippie bullshit, so on and so forth).
 
I will just offer a general reply to certain subjects raised here. Feminism is as much of a problem as the idea of personal liberty is, because it is based on the absurd notion that 1) people actually have individual autonomy, as opposed to having the illusion of personal choice predetermined by environment, cultural milieu, and myriad other external factors 2) people really are not and SHOULD not be free because what any one person does affects everyone else. Even the idea that an individual's body is his own is bunk, and we see that in regards to men in times of war or national crisis. Matt Walsh recently made a video discussing that, saying that people do not and should not have complete bodily autonomy, that to belong in a society comes with obligations to each other, and he's spot on. The Daily Wire maybe a mossad propaganda tool but I still like much (although not all) of his commentary.

Feminism is a necessary antecedent to the demographic implosion that has afflicted Europe and the west, and unless it and liberal democracy as a whole are not rebuked in the next twenty or thirty years, the trajectory to racial and civilizational suicide will likely be intractable, if it is not already.

I highly recommend Pat Buchanan's Death of the West on this. Black Pigeon Speaks also did some videos that have been shoahed but I think are available on bitchute.

I will also note that feminism has by and large made everyone miserable, not just men but the women who adhere to its more pernicious tenets. A few days ago some wokescold was carrrying on about the difficulties and sadness of being in her 40s without being married or having kids. The creator Sex and the City famously recanted and stated she regrets making the decisions held up as role model behavior that ruined generations of women (along with the 60s, hippie bullshit, so on and so forth).
lmao you watch matt walsh
 
I get the feeling a lot of them have been hurt badly by men, shit happens a lot. I've been torn to pieces emotionally by women, but I can't hate all women because of that. Even with all that has been said by them in that one thread, i still don't hate them, I feel like they are just in pain and lashing out.
And more on topic, I'm not trying to derail y'alls discussion here, just wanted to put my thoughts out there.

Though, I think you should realize that what's being said in the Man-Hate Thread is somewhat hyperbolic. Similar to how men say, "women moment," or "I hate women" from time to time, it seems women do something similar by saying "I hate men." It's not serious, it's exaggerated for comedic effect. Most of the women in that thread have fathers/brothers/husbands/close male friends whom they don't hate.
Honestly, it's actually very comparable to elementary school banter, where the boys and girls make fun of each other—which is something I find funny.
 
My 2 cents on feminism is that the modern incarnation only serves the corrupt system. I fully support giving women the right to vote, to own a bank account, etc. These should be rights afforded to any adult but they are already covered by 1st and 2nd wave feminism.

Modern feminism is designed to convince women that being a mother and homemaker is a form of oppression while being a wage slave and having an Onlyfans is somehow liberation. I’m okay with women having careers but motherhood is a priority for the vast majority of women. Our society increasingly erases opportunities for traditional relationships outside the wealthiest communities. All women should have the option to be a full time mother on the wage of their spouse, regardless of class.

The system prevents women from pursuing this option unless their partner makes six figures minimum.
 
The man hate thread is just a disguised femcel thread.
half the posters there are married
Incels have a thread and we can make fun of them for being retarded. It's only fair.

Some femcels on the man hate thread just can't handle a bit of banter and want "muh female space".
oh like how men chymped tf out and banged their chests for weeks over our contained bante? Cope and seethe, suicide gender, you can’t shit up our threads anymore without getting swept out and it broke your subhuman knuckledragging moid brains in half
Also some of you guys need to stop slap fighting with women here.
A woman will never give you a good slap fight like a man can.
Then why are you here, rapeape?

Though, I think you should realize that what's being said in the Man-Hate Thread is somewhat hyperbolic. Similar to how men say, "women moment," or "I hate women" from time to time, it seems women do something similar by saying "I hate men." It's not serious, it's exaggerated for comedic effect. Most of the women in that thread have fathers/brothers/husbands/close male friends whom they don't hate.
Honestly, it's actually very comparable to elementary school banter, where the boys and girls make fun of each other—which is something I find funny.
Who says I’m playing? I’m dead ass serious
 
These should be rights afforded to any adult but they are already covered by 1st and 2nd wave feminism.

Everything kind of fell apart after the second wave. The past 5+ years now have completely ruined it in that we are supposed to allow men to be in every place that those past two waves made possible. Men do shit that pisses me off, but if I were to apply genuine hate to a man it would exclusively be towards those who play out their fetishes thinking they are women.
 
Killing one's offspring is evil, sorry you don't want to hear it and are crying for a safespace from that. Quite the Christian, aren't you? A man-hating baby killer truly is the embodiment of Christian values, isn't it?

I can't imagine hating an entire gender, half the population, for no good reason. The scary thing is some of these people have kids of their hated gender, heart goes out to them.
Deranged misogynistic anti abortion faggot wants to clutch his pearls when women rightfully hate men but has zero problems advocating for women to lose their rights. Newsflash nigger, this is why we hate you. I’ll Fucking hate men until the day i die
I get the feeling a lot of them have been hurt badly by men, shit happens a lot. I've been torn to pieces emotionally by women, but I can't hate all women because of that. Even with all that has been said by them in that one thread, i still don't hate them, I feel like they are just in pain and lashing out.
And more on topic, I'm not trying to derail y'alls discussion here, just wanted to put my thoughts out there.
Ok pussy, now go do this sympathy whoring in the billions of women hate threads
feminazis that hate men in reality hate themselves and use feminism as a means to project that sense of self-loathing. Likewise, men who hate women are doing the same thing
No not true I love myself and my hatred of men is not motivated by feminism. I hate men because they suck
 
I’m okay with women having careers but motherhood is a priority for the vast majority of women. Our society increasingly erases opportunities for traditional relationships outside the wealthiest communities. All women should have the option to be a full time mother on the wage of their spouse, regardless of class.
While I agree on principle, I'm not sure how one accomplishes this reality without limiting a woman's option to pursue a career. The issue is that the value of labor is reduced by 50% when women work (understand that I'm not arguing against women in the workplace, merely pointing out supply/demand).
You'd need some kind of social welfare specifically for couples raising children to allow lower-class couples to have the mother stay at home. It would cost a lot, but it might be worthwhile, given the declining state of birth rates in western countries.
 
While I agree on principle, I'm not sure how one accomplishes this reality without limiting a woman's option to pursue a career. The issue is that the value of labor is reduced by 50% when women work (understand that I'm not arguing against women in the workplace, merely pointing out supply/demand).
You'd need some kind of social welfare specifically for couples raising children to allow lower-class couples to have the mother stay at home. It would cost a lot, but it might be worthwhile, given the declining state of birth rates in western countries.
I’ll definitely agree that there’s a huge difference between the principle and the practical application.

Another major issue is the WEF oligarchs open the immigration floodgates to depress wages as well. But then we get into the issues of the centrally planned global economy. Since this isn’t the thread to sperg about the unsustainably of neo-feudalism, I’ll simply say that I am in favor of a radical revolutionary change to the current system.
 
Deranged misogynistic anti abortion faggot wants to clutch his pearls when women rightfully hate men but has zero problems advocating for women to lose their rights. Newsflash nigger, this is why we hate you. I’ll Fucking hate men until the day i die
Killing one's offspring shouldn't be a right, the only thing misogynistic here is suggesting women as a whole want to do that when a sizable amount of the pro-life movement is comprised of women. You don't hate men, you hate morality & responsibility.

Feminism wasn't supposed to be about hating men, but I dislike feminism, so feel free to turn others away from it with your venom.

The system prevents women from pursuing this option unless their partner makes six figures minimum.
That's a direct consequence of feminism, if not the goal. When gender roles are blurred or erased this is the inevitable conclusion.
 
half the posters there are married

oh like how men chymped tf out and banged their chests for weeks over our contained bante? Cope and seethe, suicide gender, you can’t shit up our threads anymore without getting swept out and it broke your subhuman knuckledragging moid brains in half

Then why are you here, rapeape?


Who says I’m playing? I’m dead ass serious
Why are you so angry? Listen to some Twice and stop being an idiot.
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Killing one's offspring shouldn't be a right, the only thing misogynistic here is suggesting women as a whole want to do that when a sizable amount of the pro-life movement is comprised of women. You don't hate men, you hate morality & responsibility.

Feminism wasn't supposed to be about hating men, but I dislike feminism, so feel free to turn others away from it with your venom.


That's a direct consequence of feminism, if not the goal. When gender roles are blurred or erased this is the inevitable conclusion.
Oh make no mistake I definitely hate men. Yet once again men be like “I hate your movements for freedom but cant we all just get together? Why can’t we get along? I’m just denying your autonomy get over it“ I didn’t suggest women as a whole wanted to do that either, that was just your jizz brained moidfiction
Why are you so angry? Listen to some Twice and stop being an idiot.
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I’m angry because I hate men. Kys Gookpop fag
 
Oh make no mistake I definitely hate men. Yet once again men be like “I hate your movements for freedom but can we all just get togethe? Why can’t we get along? I’m just denying your autonomy get over it“ I didn’t suggest women as a whole wanted to do that either, that was just your jizz brained moidfiction

I’m angry because I hate men. Kys Gookpop fag
Men living in your head rent free all day every day. You are literally defined by how much you hate men, without men to hate, your existence has zero purpose.
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I feel that this thread is a mistake, because the seething moids who are deterred by the DMZ in the man-hate thread are just sperging about their off-topic complaints about feminism here. Maybe I am wrong but I doubt that when Freya made this thread, she intended for sexist male spergs to flock to it to give the same sexist opinion that they give on literally every other fucking thread on this site.
 
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