Feminism discussion thread

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the ability to earn the same amount as my peers, and the ability to make medical decisions concerning my own body.
To an extent. Don't get too comfy about it. There are a proportion of men right here at home who want to take that all away, and many places in the world where women do not enjoy these rights and freedoms.
See, that's an improvement already, telling me to go to sleep instead of killing myself :feels:


I could probably rally a small group if I tried, very small, but a small group nonetheless.
Be sure to post a picture of your stupid men's rights rally if you do. I'd like to see it :sighduck:
 
While I agree on principle, I'm not sure how one accomplishes this reality without limiting a woman's option to pursue a career. The issue is that the value of labor is reduced by 50% when women work (understand that I'm not arguing against women in the workplace, merely pointing out supply/demand).
You'd need some kind of social welfare specifically for couples raising children to allow lower-class couples to have the mother stay at home. It would cost a lot, but it might be worthwhile, given the declining state of birth rates in western countries.
Wtf? How about you just let the women make their own choices about how they want to live their lives instead of banning them from the workforce? There are plenty of women who work part-time when their kids are small. It's good for one's mental health to have an identity outside of "mommy" for a few hours a day.
I feel that this thread is a mistake, because the seething moids who are deterred by the DMZ in the man-hate thread are just sperging about their off-topic complaints about feminism here. Maybe I am wrong but I doubt that when Freya made this thread, she intended for sexist male spergs to flock to it to give the same sexist opinion that they give on literally every other fucking thread on this site.
And when I pointed that out pre-emptively, the anti-feminist men were bitching and moaning about how that wasn't very free speech of me. Four pages later, and they've shit up the thread and bogarted it to talk about their dicks and their antifeminist hobbyhorses just like I thought they would. Anything with the word "feminist" on it is a honeypot here. If someone wrote "Feminism" on the side of a glue trap for mice the men in this thread would fight each other for the right to stick their hand in it.

I'd like to put forward the motion again to DMZ the thread, but seems like it's too labor intensive for the moderation team to do that in more than one thread at a time.
 
You need to learn to ignore your impulse to wish death on people's kids.
Speaking of kids don’t you have one that needs to be watched over. All this time spent seething on the internet is enough for a small child to open up the sink cabinet for all those precious and delicious chemicals.
 
I would let all women own property but only net taxpayers should be allowed to vote, male or female. But hindsight is 20/20 I guess. I don't think the women in 1920 would have voted for a societal expectation of two-income households but here we are.
How magnanimous of you to let me own my own stuff. Actually, wait, it isn't.

Your idea sucks. Democracy is called "democracy" for a reason. What you're describing is landed nobility. If that gets you hard go move to the UK I guess, because they still have the House of Lords over there.
 
My return to tumblr has convinced me that men should never, ever trust a radfem. Even if all they're doing at the moment is dunking on trannies or furthering egalitarianism, don't let any of that distract you. They will always hate you until you either accept everything they say uncritically or kill yourself. They don't think it's wrong to abuse your good will, they think it's funny.
I'm glad I've become mature enough to not let them poison me against all feminist ideas.
 
My return to tumblr has convinced me that men should never, ever trust a radfem. Even if all they're doing at the moment is dunking on trannies or furthering egalitarianism, don't let any of that distract you. They will always hate you until you either accept everything they say uncritically or kill yourself. They don't think it's wrong to abuse your good will, they think it's funny.
I'm glad I've become mature enough to not let them poison me against all feminist ideas.
Rad-fems and MRAs have the same insecurities and end-goal, Superiority over someone else. In the end they’re only as powerful for as much attention and head-nodding as you give them.
 
My return to tumblr has convinced me that men should never, ever trust a radfem. Even if all they're doing at the moment is dunking on trannies or furthering egalitarianism, don't let any of that distract you. They will always hate you until you either accept everything they say uncritically or kill yourself. They don't think it's wrong to abuse your good will, they think it's funny.
I'm glad I've become mature enough to not let them poison me against all feminist ideas.
As we should lmao. It’s not funny it’s hilarious
 
How magnanimous of you to let me own my own stuff. Actually, wait, it isn't.

Your idea sucks. Democracy is called "democracy" for a reason. What you're describing is landed nobility. If that gets you hard go move to the UK I guess, because they still have the House of Lords over there.
Landed nobility does not let taxpayers without real-estate property vote. Our current system is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic, exactly what it would remain under my proposal. For now.

What could possibly go wrong when tax deficits are allowed to vote like people?
 
Landed nobility does not let taxpayers without real-estate property vote. Our current system is not a democracy, it is a democratic republic, exactly what it would remain under my proposal. For now.

What could possibly go wrong when tax deficits are allowed to vote like people?
Given her track record, I have doubts she understands the difference.
 
There are a proportion of men right here at home who want to take that all away, and many places in the world where women do not enjoy these rights and freedoms.
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How about you just let the women make their own choices about how they want to live their lives instead of banning them from the workforce?
I am not just against feminism, I am against liberal democracy writ large, and the very idea that people (men or women) should be able to be free to do whatever the fuck they want, regardless of the consequences to themselves, the people in their lives, or society as a whole. The concept of society--of civilization--requires the recognition that individuals, while having some rights, also have obligations to one another. This of course has been eviscerated with the rise of multiculturalism, which necessarily creates a low trust society.

The current philosophy of the west is untenable precisely because it is so extremely anti-natalist. No civilization or people can survive even a hundred years when that society encourages, let alone allows, people to indulge any number of social ills and decadence writ large that prevents reproduction on a large, macro scale. It is the same sort of folly and madness that has led the United States and other western nations to think it is somehow a good idea to put women--the egg bearers--in combat roles for example.

It has been suggested that one of the things that gave homo sapiens an edge over neanderthals was this very division of labor of the sexes, and it makes sense.

they've shit up the thread and bogarted it to talk about their dicks and their antifeminist hobbyhorses
Just imagine if the dissident right or paleo-conservative set ever responded in such a way. Imagine someone objects to race-realism and instead of discussing iq differences or offering a brief survey of human history demonstrating multi-culturalism does not work, the Defenders of the Right simply respond by stating "you are just entertaining your anti-racist hobbyhorses." Such a response could not be more laughable or pathetic, and so it is here,except that people have been trained to have a visceral reaction to the mere utterance of certain buzzwords like "racist" or "sexist" like Pavlov's dogs. No one here is talking about dicks besides this one person, and no one is "bogarting" anything, whatever that means.

I for one have noted the social ills correlated with single motherhood, including a blog with hard data, have mentioned Pat Buchanan's Death of the West and have endeavored to discuss matters on the merits. Here is a video offering a short introduction on Oswald Spengler's thoughts on the matter of feminism and Western decline (and eventual fall unless Europe awakens soon).


And here is a famous quote that should get the noggin jogging.

“And at that point, too, in Buddhist India as in Babylon, in Rome as in our own cities, a man's choice of the woman who is to be, not mother of his children as amongst peasants and primitives, but his own "companion for life", becomes a problem of mentalities. The Ibsen marriage appears, the "higher spiritual affinity" in which both parties are "free"—free, that is, as intelligences, free from the plantlike urge of the blood to continue itself, and it becomes possible for a Shaw to say "that unless Woman repudiates her womanliness, her duty to her husband, to her children, to society, to the law, and to everyone but herself, she cannot emancipate herself." The primary woman, the peasant woman, is mother. The whole vocation towards which she has yearned from childhood is included in that one word. But now emerges the Ibsen woman, the comrade, the heroine of a whole megalopolitan literature from Northern drama to Parisian novel. Instead of children, she has soul-conflicts; marriage is a craft-art for the achievement of "mutual understanding"…. At this level all Civilizations enter upon a stage, which lasts for centuries, of appalling depopulation. The whole pyramid of cultural man vanishes. It crumbles from the summit, first the world-cities, then the provincial forms, and finally the land itself, whose best blood has incontinently poured into the towns, merely to bolster them up awhile. At the last, only the primitive blood remains, alive, but robbed of its strongest and most promising elements.

Source: https://quotepark.com/quotes/179663...at-that-point-too-in-buddhist-india-as-in-ba/
 
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