Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

[Dopey Cunt]

but does anyone remember fucking Zurvan EX "SKIP SOAR OR KICK" bullshit?

That whole thing was super fucking retarded. When I cleared, we didn't even skip soar and we still kicked his ass. The folks who were on about skipping soar were just a bunch of whiny speds that wanted to be carried through runs because they didn't want to put forth any effort.

Also expecting every single player to have savage level dps is just fucking absurd on it's own.

 

[Gravemind]

That whole thing was super fucking retarded. When I cleared, we didn't even skip soar and we still kicked his ass. The folks who were on about skipping soar were just a bunch of whiny speds that wanted to be carried through runs because they didn't want to put forth any effort.

Also expecting every single player to have savage level dps is just fucking absurd on it's own.

Makes me glad I got what I wanted out of it just a bit before the PFs started to really push that stupid meta.

I've always maintained a sort of mentality that if you can't properly clear a fight without skipping mechanics that wouldn't normally get skipped, you're probably going at the whole fight the wrong way. Strictly in terms of progressing through the fight, of course. Once you have that shit down-pat and you can find a skip or two in the mechanics, by all means, go for it because you and your group knows what you're doing at that point.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

For real? I've historically cussed like a sailor and even had a shitposting macro I could spam for when a run was constantly going to shit (and I'd just had enough of my party's bullshit), and I've never gotten a GM on my ass for it.

But I'm also not nearly as talkative with randoms as I used to be. Nothing but short, neutral responses from me or a dumb joke if I see an opportunity.

EDIT: Once again, avoiding doubleposting.

See, before I broke off from my old friend group, one of our game autists constantly claimed that, even now, in Shadowbringers, some Jobs just aren't even welcome to PFs and that the meta was still being as strictly enforced as ever like back during the Heavensward days (strict conduct is understandable for something like Midas Savage, which I understood was overtuned or something, but does anyone remember fucking Zurvan EX "SKIP SOAR OR KICK" bullshit? Which is not to mention the plenty of dumbasses I dealt with who kept fucking up the mechanics for Midgardsormr EX or Alex Prime Savage, and then they'd pass the buck and get the whole party to blame and kick you instead).

But I've heard you guys make the case ITT multiple times that every class is more or less viable at this point, so I don't know. Old mindsets hammered into you die hard and I've been really defeatist about doing the stuff I used to love doing in XIV ever since before Stormblood launched. Nothing but my problems, I know, but still.

Oh they're off their fucking rocker. I think as long as you get a comp to get that 1% buff (Pref 2 melee and 1 phys and one magic ranged) you're golden. Player skill will always be the most important part of playing the game. If some mongoloid black mage is casting only ice spells and holding us back even if they fit the comp you're gonna know that shit's a problem.

I know all about skip soar or disband lmao. Back when E4S came out people were memeing hard about Phase 1, saying it was always gonna be a trap party for P1 alone like the new soar. Shit will never change but with how much easier the fights are compared to the HW days it's better to get adjusted in now.

It really is cannot stress it enough. The only job that is actually low on the dps scale currently is Machinist. That's due to them not getting any major buffs in a long time and BRD recently getting a damage boost to put it ahead. Still absolutely viable though and world first people have cleared with it for Savage and Ultimate. Some jobs like Summoner are just too good so they keep nerfing it by bit because the damage they put it is fucking insane. Can dwarf Ninja after the pull and hold the momentum the entire way through and it's insanely mobile and not even aimed to be a big dps class like BLM.

 

[Tachibana]

Ugh don't get me started on that.

Back when my FC was more active, I had a male member (who was actually straight, ikr?) decide to marry one of his friends who was a girl irl. It wasn't anything serious, he was just doing it to do it and that's when the whole marriage thing just came out. When they announced they were hitched, a couple of people were...angry? Like in their minds they had laid claim to either one or the other and they got super autistic about it. At the time, I didn't care because I was doing my own thing, I didn't even attend the wedding because I thought it was all dumb, but apparently, according to the groom, there was a lot of shit talking going on. It really rubbed me the wrong way how people become possessive of other people almost like if they feel entitled to own someone's attention. Is saw how toxic it all was and just distanced myself from it because I really didn't want to deal with the drama. It was also weird that the bride got attached to the groom, even though he didn't really think anything of it or feel any type of way. She'd get super jealous if he hung around other girls and was always constantly hanging around him and dragging him everywhere she went to the point where he felt really smothered by her. Even more odd is that the groom, at that point in time was married irl but the bride insisted on spending every moment that she could with him. I think finally he told her that he needed space and she got so upset that she eventually left the game after having a few spells where she'd come back. Moral of the story is: just because you marry someone in game, it doesn't make them your possession. It's great if real relationships are formed from it or if a couple irl decide to marry in game, but they need to stop taking a fictitious marriage in a game so literally.

I noticed that players have an unhealthy obsession with becoming too attached to strangers on the internet. But honestly, that's something that happens everywhere. Even here. Still, it was pretty fucking gay.

I had the opposite problem where a girl had clear issues IRL and got too attached to me. But it was in this skewed way where she wanted to treat guys like she's in a relationship with them but not really. She got really upset and made the rounds when I told her to fuck off. It wasn't uncommon for her to wrap men around her little finger because she's cute IRL. Realistically she's a very manipulative person who uses others to her own ends.

For real? I've historically cussed like a sailor and even had a shitposting macro I could spam for when a run was constantly going to shit (and I'd just had enough of my party's bullshit), and I've never gotten a GM on my ass for it.

But I'm also not nearly as talkative with randoms as I used to be. Nothing but short, neutral responses from me or a dumb joke if I see an opportunity.

EDIT: Once again, avoiding doubleposting.

See, before I broke off from my old friend group, one of our game autists constantly claimed that, even now, in Shadowbringers, some Jobs just aren't even welcome to PFs and that the meta was still being as strictly enforced as ever like back during the Heavensward days (strict conduct is understandable for something like Midas Savage, which I understood was overtuned or something, but does anyone remember fucking Zurvan EX "SKIP SOAR OR KICK" bullshit? Which is not to mention the plenty of dumbasses I dealt with who kept fucking up the mechanics for Midgardsormr EX or Alex Prime Savage, and then they'd pass the buck and get the whole party to blame and kick you instead).

But I've heard you guys make the case ITT multiple times that every class is more or less viable at this point, so I don't know. Old mindsets hammered into you die hard and I've been really defeatist about doing the stuff I used to love doing in XIV ever since before Stormblood launched. Nothing but my problems, I know, but still.

Being reported depends on if you have people who want to abuse the report system because they personally don't like you. People in this game believe that if they don't like you, you're not allowed to play this majestic amazing video game.

Jobs don't matter as long as you get the 1% party bonus from each role. But there's a large culture of autism and "we need to clear the raid on week 1". I'd rather play with my own guys and have fun. I got a fun group together this time around.

Also expecting every single player to have savage level dps is just fucking absurd on it's own.

Raiders feel like pulling high level dps is easy, and that because they do it, everyone else should do it or they have no brain activity.

Oh they're off their fucking rocker. I think as long as you get a comp to get that 1% buff (Pref 2 melee and 1 phys and one magic ranged) you're golden. Player skill will always be the most important part of playing the game. If some mongoloid black mage is casting only ice spells and holding us back even if they fit the comp you're gonna know that shit's a problem.

I know all about skip soar or disband lmao. Back when E4S came out people were memeing hard about Phase 1, saying it was always gonna be a trap party for P1 alone like the new soar. Shit will never change but with how much easier the fights are compared to the HW days it's better to get adjusted in now.

It really is cannot stress it enough. The only job that is actually low on the dps scale currently is Machinist. That's due to them not getting any major buffs in a long time and BRD recently getting a damage boost to put it ahead. Still absolutely viable though and world first people have cleared with it for Savage and Ultimate. Some jobs like Summoner are just too good so they keep nerfing it by bit because the damage they put it is fucking insane. Can dwarf Ninja after the pull and hold the momentum the entire way through and it's insanely mobile and not even aimed to be a big dps class like BLM.

Machinist still performs better. DPS checks for the most part are lenient except maybe floor 4 savage on the first week it comes out.

 

[Gravemind]

I had the opposite problem where a girl had clear issues IRL and got too attached to me. But it was in this skewed way where she wanted to treat guys like she's in a relationship with them but not really. She got really upset and made the rounds when I told her to fuck off. It wasn't uncommon for her to wrap men around her little finger because she's cute IRL. Realistically she's a very manipulative person who uses others to her own ends.

Spoiler

Bro, I had a woman more than twice my age suddenly develop an obsession for me just because I was nice to her when she was new. She then proceeded to worm her way into my former friend group, won their favor, earned herself a position of authority in the FC, got most people to meme that her and I were a couple (we weren't), basically established herself as a "mom" figure, then turned my whole friend group against me once I finally got sick of it all and put my foot down on her manipulative bullshit. Even after I tried to let bygones be bygones with my former friends a long while afterwards, a couple of them still took her side when it came to that incident because "they've never known her to be like that". Even though everyone in that particular friend group knew me for years prior to ever meeting her, let alone before XIV 2.0 ever came out.

There's a reason why there's a stereotype about how women in online games tend to ruin most groups and guilds. Shit like this are a few of the reasons why.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Yeah I've seen girls fight over dudes before. Pretty fucking sad.

On the other end of the spectrum, you do have the occasional guy who acts super creepily towards you just because you're a female who gave him the time of day for about 2 minutes. It can go both ways. Particularly, they have a habit of trying to steer the conversation in a sexual direction whenever possible. The cool thing is that when they see you aren't biting, they give up and move on.

 

[Gravemind]

Yeah I've seen girls fight over dudes before. Pretty fucking sad.

On the other end of the spectrum, you do have the occasional guy who acts super creepily towards you just because you're a female who gave him the time of day for about 2 minutes. It can go both ways. Particularly, they have a habit of trying to steer the conversation in a sexual direction whenever possible. The cool thing is that when they see you aren't biting, they give up and move on.

No question. I've seen enough "blackmail" cases on both Balmung and Mateus to know that there's plenty of dudes out there who are outright creepers. Only caveat to that being it wouldn't even be a "blackmail" case if the people involved hadn't gave in to the creepers at some point or another, but that's a different argument to be had entirely and doesn't necessarily justify dudes being fucking thirsty and drama-mongering.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

No question. I've seen enough "blackmail" cases on both Balmung and Mateus to know that there's plenty of dudes out there who are outright creepers. Only caveat to that being it wouldn't even be a "blackmail" case if the people involved hadn't gave in to the creepers at some point or another, but that's a different argument to be had entirely and doesn't necessarily justify dudes being fucking thirsty and drama-mongering.

Another bit is that they usually use female characters. You could see a character named Bubblegum Candy and the reality is that he's a jobless deathfat in his late 30s.

 

[Van Darkholme]

I got my own FC and FC house. It's literally just me and another guy I actually met IRL, (I usually transfer leadership to him when I'm taking a break from the game, so we don't lose the house) No interest in joining anything else, I learned my lesson about shitty guilds and big egos back in WoW.

Edit: I just remembered: when I rejoined the game in 2015 after qutting back in 2013 due to not liking it all that much, I joined a FC on Cerberus for a while (Pettan Co aka FLAT, I think they used to advertise on /vg/, not sure if they still do it now) through a friend. tl;dr, same shitty clique building and cringy people thinking they're better than everyone else. I still regret not robbing their FC house before I left. After that I just couldn't be bothered with all that FC shit anymore.

 

[Gravemind]

I got my own FC and FC house. It's literally just me and another guy I actually met IRL, (I ususally transfer leadership to him when I'm taking a break from the game, so we don't lose the house) No interest in joining anything else, I learned my lesson about shitty guilds and big egos back in WoW.

Edit: I just remembered: when I rejoined the game in 2015 after qutting back in 2013 due to not liking it all that much, I joined a FC on Cerberus for a while (Pettan Co aka FLAT, I think they used to advertise on /vg/, not sure if they still do it now) through a friend. tl;dr, same shitty clique building and cringy people think they're better than everyone else. I still regret not robbing their FC house before I left. After that I just couldn't be bothered with all that FC shit anymore.

/xivg/ is historically a place for in-game lolcows, so it's not surprising that an FC advertised there would be utter dogshit.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

For Kiwis on Aether, I'm playing an alt for PVP and spamming frontlines as a silver haired giraffe (Elezen) on Midgarsomnr so if people want to play feel free like for a couple weeks. Just spamming it to learn BLM for Feast so if you want to try out some Frontlines or possibly RW later this week lemme know.

 

[SleepyNibba]

I can believe it. If you get a clique together, that's usually the case. If you're not part of the close knit group, you might as well not exist.

My alt was part of an FC that claimed a whole bunch of shit on Fairie. They treated me and all the newfags like shit, they ignored us when we asked for help and all the upper members were a bunch of cliquey fags that hung out on discord on vc the entire fucking time. That's why I don't bother joining any FC. They are all terrible. Period.

Not true, not all fc's are like that. I joined an fc that consists of crafters and gathering, i dont really do any of that, and they still let me join. the fc is around 30 people and they all have been friendly and helpful. Those super big popular ones are the shit shows.

 

[Gravemind]

Not true, not all fc's are like that. I joined an fc that consists of crafters and gathering, i dont really do any of that, and they still let me join. the fc is around 30 people and they all have been friendly and helpful. Those super big popular ones are the shit shows.

Better to err on the side of caution in most cases though. You ever hear of once bitten, twice shy?

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Not true, not all fc's are like that. I joined an fc that consists of crafters and gathering, i dont really do any of that, and they still let me join. the fc is around 30 people and they all have been friendly and helpful. Those super big popular ones are the shit shows.

Well I'm glad you've been lucky to find a good fc to take you in but 8 years of playing this game has taught me that it's better to be cautious. I've seen tons of fcs crumble, both large and small. I'd rather not deal with the possible headache.

 

[Tachibana]

Well I'm glad you've been lucky to find a good fc to take you in but 8 years of playing this game has taught me that it's better to be cautious. I've seen tons of fcs crumble, both large and small. I'd rather not deal with the possible headache.

I'll piggyback off of what everyone else said. I've also seen small and big FCs break apart and/or cause drama. It isn't worth the squeeze.

I know Japan goes in hard with how you can "meet people in the game" and "find a girl to marry" or whatever, like in these commercials:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf8Rpng4UEk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fNgziN2gCk

The father of light netflix series and movie have similar themes in them, from a true story about how a son reconnected with his father (through our corporate product ffxiv of course).

I'm not certain if social interactions are better in Japan, but I think NA has too many mentally ill people working actively to ruin the community.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

I'm not certain if social interactions are better in Japan, but I think NA has too many mentally ill people working actively to ruin the community.

Agree with this 100%

NA is too unstable.

 

[Dave.]

Most of the FCs I've seen that crumble, and I apologize if this sounds offensive to you @Dopey Cunt, usually have women or soyboys in power. Anyone who has a children's doodle or furry avatar and happens to be an officer needs to run the fuck out of dodge immediately because that's a sure sign of mental instability.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

Most of the FCs I've seen that crumble, and I apologize if this sounds offensive to you @Dopey Cunt, usually have women or soyboys in power. Anyone who has a children's doodle or furry avatar and happens to be an officer needs to run the fuck out of dodge immediately because that's a sure sign of mental instability.

No offense taken, mate. Women can be just as absolute garbage as dudes or troons. Everyone is equally terrible. I agree with you anyway.

 

[Gravemind]

Most of the FCs I've seen that crumble, and I apologize if this sounds offensive to you @Dopey Cunt, usually have women or soyboys in power. Anyone who has a children's doodle or furry avatar and happens to be an officer needs to run the fuck out of dodge immediately because that's a sure sign of mental instability.

Legit, my first FC fell apart because of both reasons, more or less. Soyboys who didn't want to take care of business because it would make a few people upset, and at least one woman who manipulated her way into authority and then had a grudge for me because I didn't want to fuck her crazy, thirsty, middle-aged woman ass.

 

[Ravana]

I recently upgraded my computer and like a total idiot I saw the GeForce recommend optimal settings and opted into them. When loading ffxiv the game tank to barely 30fps levels from previously having over 60 and of course defaulting back didn’t fix it. So now my boomer ass is reinstalling the game