Final Fantasy XIV - Kiwi Free Company

[Lion]

mr. happy isn’t even good. his guides are always wrong because he attempts to be first at releasing it

 

[Tachibana]

Community figureheads are powertrippy holier than thou types in all multiplayer games. There are probably like three groups/individuals I can think of that are actually community figureheads and mostly not hilarious lolcows, and even that only goes so far, and then you end up with people tatooing a fictional mineral on themselves.

The closest thing to a decent youtube creator and mostly not a shitheel in FFXIV was Larry, but only because he had the stunning realization that youtube/streaming an MMO is not a substitute for a career, and went and became a code monkey instead.

YouTube/Twitch creators in FFXIV are in a strange place. The raid community is too autistic and harass content creators if their videos aren't troon-approved and "the most optimal". If you make guides, there's straight up raging, because your "strategy is not the most optimal" and "retards on PF pick up that strategy but not my most optimized parse strat". They themselves don't want to create content however outside of their own text guides (that are exclusively posted on The Balance, which was covered earlier in the thread). Even guys like Xeno and Arthars get harassed by them.

The only way to make making content viable is to make goofy videos like Larry or content like ZeplaHQ. Even then you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Larryzaur used to make shy of 2000 dollars a month on Patreon, and that quickly went down to 1500 dollars a month. You're making tops 24000 dollars a year in addition to very meager YouTube revenue.

ZeplaHQ I haven't heard anything bad about. I'm not a fan of her content, but she seems wholesome enough to be passable in some regard (but I can't stand seeing her 'crazy eyes'). The only one I vehemently dislike (as a person he seems relatively inoffensive) is Mr.Happy. Not so much because his content is 'bad', but just because his content is average and bloated and his overall persona is incredibly boring. Don't know if I can say I hate his content though. In fact none of the content creators I can bring myself to either love or hate... they're just so average. I guess Xeno would be someone to hate because he's a cunt in game.

MrHappy is Square Enix's whipping boy. He was so excited to tell people how he met Yoshida IRL that he would brag about it to people on podcasts after the podcast, thinking everyone's mic was off:

https://streamable.com/sk23c

Is this the FFXIV way of trying to assert dominance over others?

I don't know much about the guy. The raiders seem to hate him and occasionally shitpost about him.

mr. happy isn’t even good. his guides are always wrong because he attempts to be first at releasing it

I believe he has a track record of putting out really poor strategies that make even the developers go "huh".

 

[Dave.]

Oh and I forgot to mention MTQcapture. That one I hate because she's a proven plagiarist. She also made a really stupid post when the George Floyd stuff came around about how she was always sidelined and silenced for her opinions and now was her time to speak out. Was said person who sidelined you also your dad?

 

[Gravemind]

Mr. Happy would be significantly better as a guide creator if he ever pulled his head out of his ass and realized that a guide doesn't need all the autistic bloat and theorycrafting about how mechanics work to get the point of the mechanics across. It's as easy as "Thing happens, you must do this, this, and this to deal with boss doing thing," and so on.

I haven't watched a single one of his videos in the last couple of years now but I'm going to assume he's never actually changed his style whatsoever in that time.

EDIT:

Oh and I forgot to mention MTQcapture. That one I hate because she's a proven plagiarist. She also made a really stupid post when the George Floyd stuff came around about how she was always sidelined and silenced for her opinions and now was her time to speak out. Was said person who sidelined you also your dad?

Sounds mad fucking gay. I'll give MTQ one singular break here and it's that at least her guide presentation is far more understandable than Happy's. It's why I'll still watch them just for the information. Couldn't give a shit less about the person.

 

[Dopey Cunt]

mr. happy isn’t even good. his guides are always wrong because he attempts to be first at releasing it

Yeah his guides are generally shit because he tries to shit out something too fast and he make a guide that ends up getting passed over because other people who bothered to wait a little bit get more information on the fights and are able to release more concise guides.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

Mr. Happy is just a dude who by the algorithm ended up becoming a success similar to DSP, not that his content was good. That being said the only benefit has he has over MTQ (Who is also not good btw), is to just simplify shit to fill his smooth brain. MTQ goes into an entire paragraph on a mechanic in like Seiryu EX (Like the Criss-Cross), and Happy just says "Go here, go there". Like sometimes less is more and it isn't an overload however that's only when a fight like Seiryu EX's most complicated mechanic is a double tank swap.. But I also watched them pre 5.0 which is before I actually started getting into raiding. Looking back now I could probably recommend 6 other people better then those two in a moment's notice and call anyone who uses them as bible as complete sheep.

Before I really peered into Happy more I'd say at best he was just okay, but the moment Blufever and the leaks came out for 4.4-4.5 and his white knighting Yoshi-P I just lost and and all respect him for. He acted so proudly when the evil leaker was defeated and he got his cum dump by Yoshi-P on him. I was just floored at how much ass he was kissing, and makes me really wish someone else was in a position to talk with Yoshi-P more about this stuff.

MTQ is just an overload of info at times and tries to bookend it by being cute and haha punny. Her tone of voice is also infuriating especially when people constantly look back at it.

If you want personal good guide recommendations Lyconadacheechee did a series of EZPZ guides for Eden Savage and they get the points across really well. Their E4S one had edits for everyone's video positions so you got to see everything really nice for Uplift. Also describing mechanics as things that make sense (Like a racetrack for P3) help much more then just showing images at least to me imo.

Joonbob has some amazing editing for his guides and they're really fast paced if you already know what you're getting into

Xeno and Arthars I really enjoy looking over their vods since they usually play together. Xeno's Bowtie start for E8S is a god send and it's the only reason my group made crazy progress compared to Ayatori or the god awful Ilya one. Their TEA reprog has been helpful to understand where we should be at a certain mechanic and it's great Xeno does tank pov.

Ilya, Oryza, Sfia, Stal, and most other world race proggers are also good for uptime and optimization too, thankfully they leave their vods up on twitch to review and work with.

If it's just in general content creation like Tachibana said you have to go the comedy route with more frequent uploads to hold any weight. But the problem is you're also playing to that one demographic so when you do anything else your views tank like a mofo. The only thing I know about Zepla is that she has some of the biggest simps I have ever seen and it's just depressing.

If you want someone good for variety who does comedic content Saucey Noodle has made some really good shitposts for XIV. They're currently doing a lot of genshin but expect it to all come back when 5.4 drops.

 

[Lion]

Joonbob has some amazing editing for his guides and they're really fast paced if you already know what you're getting into

i like his vids a lot, the only downside is that in shit like E8S with LR it’s done too perfectly to the point where it doesn’t do a good job helping? that’s just my only complaint so far from what i’ve seen.

 

[Tanner Glass]

YouTube/Twitch creators in FFXIV are in a strange place. The raid community is too autistic and harass content creators if their videos aren't troon-approved and "the most optimal". If you make guides, there's straight up raging, because your "strategy is not the most optimal" and "retards on PF pick up that strategy but not my most optimized parse strat". They themselves don't want to create content however outside of their own text guides (that are exclusively posted on The Balance, which was covered earlier in the thread). Even guys like Xeno and Arthars get harassed by them.

The only way to make making content viable is to make goofy videos like Larry or content like ZeplaHQ. Even then you're scrapping the bottom of the barrel. Larryzaur used to make shy of 2000 dollars a month on Patreon, and that quickly went down to 1500 dollars a month. You're making tops 24000 dollars a year in addition to very meager YouTube revenue.

Most of the FFXIV youtubers are also FFXIV streamers, so you'd have to account for that income as well. That said, FFXIV just doesn't have a large social media footprint.

The game doesn't have a huge following to a point where you're finding a lot of FFXIV creators all branching out to non FFXIV content, "branching out to WoW", or just dropping FFXIV entirely. I don't think anything highlights this more than FFXIV's most popular streamer currently being Jesse Cox (a longtime WoW content creator) by a gigantic margin compared to any "FFXIV Streamer" who has 4+ years in the game.

FFXIV (as of now) has like 1,500 people watching on Twitch. World of Warcraft has 43,500 - or "a whole lot fucking more". It's one of the ways that FFXIV's accessibility tends to hurt it - most content in the game is pretty accessible to a point where it's easier to actually do it than watch someone do it.

With World of Warcraft's new expansion coming out soon (and with the incredibly low bar set by the last one) this gap is going to grow massively even larger as that game picks up some more steam.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

i like his vids a lot, the only downside is that in shit like E8S with LR it’s done too perfectly to the point where it doesn’t do a good job helping? that’s just my only complaint so far from what i’ve seen.

LR is just tricky since some groups just want the mechanic done, while others want to maximize on uptime since you lose a lot trying to do the former playing it safe to be done with it. I'm more in the camp of just doing it one way that maximizes uptime especially if everyone is new to it, so Uptime Bowtie was amazing. You can get in all of your gcds without missing a beat if you do it right and it's very easy to adjust for. Xeno had all of his stuff on youtube for different PoV's and Twitch Clips so it made looking back at getting the flow much easier.

 

[Tachibana]

LR is just tricky since some groups just want the mechanic done, while others want to maximize on uptime since you lose a lot trying to do the former playing it safe to be done with it. I'm more in the camp of just doing it one way that maximizes uptime especially if everyone is new to it, so Uptime Bowtie was amazing. You can get in all of your gcds without missing a beat if you do it right and it's very easy to adjust for. Xeno had all of his stuff on youtube for different PoV's and Twitch Clips so it made looking back at getting the flow much easier.

The NA community is annoying with strategies. They give stupid names to strategies and it often caused confusion in my statics. Mario karts, spyros, sharingans, bowties etc... In JP, typically the strategy name is related to the person who publicized it, and what the strategy is is clear cut.

There's also how autistic (especially redditors) players get over using a strat over another. Here's an unfunny comic that was probably posted by redditors that I saw posted somewhere else:

People on NA are too lazy to make their own PF group and come to shit up your group instead.

 

[SleepyNibba]

the only person i watch for FFXIV content is DrakGamestein on youtube, and thats only because they always went into raids blind and figured shit out for themselves while being dumb idiots for your amusement. like go and watch some of their FFXIV content, its pretty funny. I know he doesnt do his own editing, but whoever does is doing a decent job.

Happy is a fucking idiot, i know his Tsukiyomi guide is STILL up and the guide itself is still wrong and he refuses to change it.

Some of MTQ's guides are imcomplete because some bosses have random mechanics and shes in such a rush to get her videos out that she leaves out whole mechanics that can happen, just because she never experienced them. They are also, like someone said a complete word salad. Just look up her Eden 3 savage guide. Holy shit.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

The NA community is annoying with strategies. They give stupid names to strategies and it often caused confusion in my statics. Mario karts, spyros, sharingans, bowties etc... In JP, typically the strategy name is related to the person who publicized it, and what the strategy is is clear cut.

There's also how autistic (especially redditors) players get over using a strat over another. Here's an unfunny comic that was probably posted by redditors that I saw posted somewhere else:

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People on NA are too lazy to make their own PF group and come to shit up your group instead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXI.../?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

This is taken from reddit, but this pretty much describes my experience with watching NA PF.

 

[Tachibana]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShitpostXI.../?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

This is taken from reddit, but this pretty much describes my experience with watching NA PF.

I think I got cancer watching this. Reminds me of raid discords and how they communicate exclusively in twitch emotes and pepes. IMO disrespect of PF party leaders is why PF in NA doesn't work.

In other news, I'm more or less done recruiting for my static. Everyone is better than I expected. It's going to be a more chill static this time around. Not doing arse runs either. At some point people get so fixated on "optimization" that the game becomes a spreadsheet simulator, and you might as well not play the game.

Always wondered why you have so many people obsessing and trying to compete in a PvE game that isn't designed for speedrunning or sheer optimization.

 

[Gravemind]

Always wondered why you have so many people obsessing and trying to compete in a PvE game that isn't designed for speedrunning or sheer optimization.

Because putting out the biggest dick numbers and clearing fights faster than anyone else gives them more of a sense of accomplishment and satisfaction than just simply clearing content with friends.

I've known a couple of people who swear up and down that they can't have fun with the game "unless they're doing the absolute best".

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Always wondered why you have so many people obsessing and trying to compete in a PvE game that isn't designed for speedrunning or sheer optimization.

Because autism.

Autism never changes.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

I think I got cancer watching this. Reminds me of raid discords and how they communicate exclusively in twitch emotes and pepes. IMO disrespect of PF party leaders is why PF in NA doesn't work.

In other news, I'm more or less done recruiting for my static. Everyone is better than I expected. It's going to be a more chill static this time around. Not doing arse runs either. At some point people get so fixated on "optimization" that the game becomes a spreadsheet simulator, and you might as well not play the game.

Always wondered why you have so many people obsessing and trying to compete in a PvE game that isn't designed for speedrunning or sheer optimization.

The people who pug and retain their mental sanity are the most terrifying people on NA. After being with a static proper since 5.0 I don't think I could go back that lifestyle for savage, extreme maybe, savage nope. People were eating shit on E5S when the goals were first 14 prog, lmao.

Good on you, that's generally what mine is. We run ACT and parse for reference but it's all private so people don't feel like they're being judged hard by everyone. Otherwise it's just gonna be tensions rising and people getting nervous when we're just chill.

I honestly find three camps

1) People who are using it for the sake of naturally improving

2) People who just want it out there to show that they did this thing not really caring about the parse

3) People who treat the parses as bibles and shun others who have numbers who are lower. Usually have horrible autism.

The third one rubs me the most because while parses are indeed a way to see this, they don't take into account role duties. If an OT has to do a mechanic on the other side of the arena not hitting the boss, then they're being penalized by the log while the MT goes higher. If a healer is covering the other because they're dpsing too much their parse is also punished. There's a lot of cases like that and people who can manage everything are cool to look at, but every parse has a story if the number is just naturally that low despite the player hitting the normal to above numbers in general.

 

[Gravemind]

3) People who treat the parses as bibles and shun others who have numbers who are lower. Usually have horrible autism.

The third one rubs me the most because while parses are indeed a way to see this, they don't take into account role duties. If an OT has to do a mechanic on the other side of the arena not hitting the boss, then they're being penalized by the log while the MT goes higher. If a healer is covering the other because they're dpsing too much their parse is also punished. There's a lot of cases like that and people who can manage everything are cool to look at, but every parse has a story if the number is just naturally that low despite the player hitting the normal to above numbers in general.

This just gave me horrible flashbacks to when I was running Creator Savage with my static years ago. Mostly the fact that me, as an OT, was being expected to parse 90th percentile or higher to make up for one of our DPS who was performing near 20th percentile (with the others performing at around average and one who was pushing top percentile) and absolutely no one else would give them shit for it. But, somehow, even though everyone could see I was clearly doing my rotations optimally and doing mechanics properly, I was just "doing not as much damage as I should have been doing and taking more damage than I should have".

Said DPS was also constantly shittalking our hardest performers in the static behind their backs and really the only usefulness they had to the group was the fact that they could provide the HQ raid food each person needed "at a cost" (usually by doing money-making favors for the guy, which he would proceed to brag about constantly). The whole static fell apart purely because of this one asshole's attitude and literally everyone else being too spineless to tell him to shove it up his ass, in addition to scapegoating me as the cause for it.

Those fucks even got mad at me once because I found a strat for maintaining uptime on Cruise Chaser while still handling mechanics properly just because it was the TINIEST divergence from how we'd been practicing the fight, meanwhile they'd been bitching that my parse was "too low" before I found out that strat.

 

[Overcooked Raccoon]

This just gave me horrible flashbacks to when I was running Creator Savage with my static years ago. Mostly the fact that me, as an OT, was being expected to parse 90th percentile or higher to make up for one of our DPS who was performing near 20th percentile (with the others performing at around average and one who was pushing top percentile) and absolutely no one else would give them shit for it. But, somehow, even though everyone could see I was clearly doing my rotations optimally and doing mechanics properly, I was just "doing not as much damage as I should have been doing and taking more damage than I should have".

Said DPS was also constantly shittalking our hardest performers in the static behind their backs and really the only usefulness they had to the group was the fact that they could provide the HQ raid food each person needed "at a cost" (usually by doing money-making favors for the guy, which he would proceed to brag about constantly). The whole static fell apart purely because of this one asshole's attitude and literally everyone else being too spineless to tell him to shove it up his ass, in addition to scapegoating me as the cause for it.

Those fucks even got mad at me once because I found a strat for maintaining uptime on Cruise Chaser while still handling mechanics properly just because it was the TINIEST divergence from how we'd been practicing the fight, meanwhile they'd been bitching that my parse was "too low" before I found out that strat.

Numbers numbers numbers is all it is to some people. Just sounds like an entitled cunt all around if he's being that, especially when DPS is the easiest job to hit those higher percentiles (without dying obv). God those are the ones that you know that feel totally fine being online cause they're not in front of anyway, when the numbers point out they're all pieces of shit. They're def not worth your time in that regard because the logic of "This will help us clear faster" goes out the window when it just slightly moves away from what they want. Absolutely stupid.

If we're talking about stories, the discord I'm in is a pretty hefty one having people from all over our friend circle. There was this girl (Let's just say their name is Tiffany), who working in a static with some other people we knew from the discord because they wanted to raid together and our main group was full. This is back when our group was done progging E6S and we were working on E7S, their group I think had gotten E5S done at the time or were getting very close.

Our discord had a channel for posting logs for reference, all of ours were put inside there to look back on, it wasn't made private (because we were under a notion people wouldn't be scummy), and it was like that since the very first tier of SHB. Anyway as we're going through I get a message from one of my static mates that a source in Tiffany's group critiqued my tank log saying that someone newer to tanking had parsed higher then me and said something on the lines of "Wow! You're doing better then him even when he has more experience! Kick his ass!"

The word had gotten down to me and I questioned what was being referenced, turns out it was a series of logs from E5S (probably by our 6th kill) that were being referred to where my numbers were lower. I had to look back and realized that in our uploads (which were after a couple of wipes each reset since we were trying to optimize) and we generally just posted what we had when we cleared. In most of logs there were multiple deaths, I was fresh OT so I was still focused on getting Raiden handled, people were being clipped by circle lightning aoes, and it was just us not caring and trying to get it done to move on.

The logs were being compared by the other tank for reference but they don't prove anything that actually happens during the fight for damage, or people's minds while playing it. There was a huge debacle over this as I was being chastised by Tiffany and it turned into some personal war, which caused their static to break up and Tiffany to do their own thing. The group reformed with some new people and they've had much more fun being open as Tiffany created a very hostile space for them where they couldn't speak their minds or critique her methods even when they were bad choices which their members looked to our handling of mechs to review the problems their group had.

An example of a bad choice she made was that she joined a group made of some of my static mates, another discords static mates, and some random pugs. 7 of them all had a solid idea on how they wanted to do it for Living Liquid since the tornadoes can swap positions when it drops. Tiffany was dead set on keeping everyone static, which caused a fuck ton of problems and I think that group at most only hit Jag'd Dollsafter like a month of prog for three hour sessions a week. Meanwhile our main static went into TEA last month and we managed to get to Protean 1 with little to no experience and our static leader was blown away with that progress while most of us were just like "Wow it was really that bad huh" A month in we're basically on 2nd-3rd Nisi's and this is our first ultimate so it's been a huge boon of success.

Now the new group is aiming for a clear on E8S and they took months to relearn the fights with their new group taking others under the wing and are enjoying themselves much more. It's an example of how one person can ruin the fun for 7 others just by not reading the room or asking how your team is doing.

 

[корона-тян]

the only person i watch for FFXIV content is DrakGamestein on youtube, and thats only because they always went into raids blind and figured shit out for themselves while being dumb idiots for your amusement. like go and watch some of their FFXIV content, its pretty funny. I know he doesnt do his own editing, but whoever does is doing a decent job.

Drak was only worth watching during his 2.0/3.0 days. The editing was succinct, the members of the group weren't tryhards (fuck Tate with a rusty pike the insufferable cunt), and back then they weren't as quite reliant on being le meme funny because hey, suddenly this is how they pay their bills.

 

[SleepyNibba]

Drak was only worth watching during his 2.0/3.0 days. The editing was succinct, the members of the group weren't tryhards (fuck Tate with a rusty pike the insufferable cunt), and back then they weren't as quite reliant on being le meme funny because hey, suddenly this is how they pay their bills.

i agree with you on Tate, that shitlord is annoying.