🐟 Fishtank Fishtank.Live General - Jet Neptune's Pisces Aquarium Internet Reality Show w/ Host Bam Margera

[popnloch ness monster]

I feel so betrayed, she was supposed to be the Morticia to my Gomez, the Elvira to my Bob, together, united in Total Tranny Death

 

[Aidan]

jon makes weetarded video on “don’t invest in a 401k, just find time to run a business bro”

Jon had to ask what inflation was on Twitter then turns around and lectures people on inflation and investing. True Tate bro.

 

[Mr.Bucket]

jon makes weetarded video on “don’t invest in a 401k, just find time to run a business bro”

Anyone who takes this tard seriously deserves to never be able to retire.

 

[Osama Bin Laden]

Josiecel simp, DewkyShwet made an animation on giving Josie a keyboard but rejecting him
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[Punitive Castration]

Josiecel simp, DewkyShwet made an animation on giving Josie a keyboard but rejecting him
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I'm gonna end up saying this a million times but I hate Josiecels and it's going to suck shit if Jet thinks Josie's role was something they should look for in a contestant next time. She got to the end by not making any choices or maneuvers or even having any outstandingly interesting or funny moments that the producers didn't tell her to do. I think they thought the other contestants would bully her for being retarded which doesn't show great insight into the minds of adults. Instead she just got a bunch of incels to spoil all the polls and make all the contestants want to hand the win over to her.
The closest Josie ever got to doing anything of her own volition was when Letty poured stuff on her bed and Josie got convinced it was Sylvia but even then, that was started by Letty, and she got misled by Letty which is what made it not a two-minute "I think it was Letty. It was. The end" moment.

If there's some boring-ass waifu again next season who gets coddled by everyone it's going to suck. I think something we talked about in the sneedchat was that the format of the show seems to give great short-term rewards to people like Jon and Letty but also wears through them for being interesting like a Converse sneaker on the Appalachian Trail. Maybe if they're going to do immunity like they pretended to do this season it needs to go to people like them to give them a chance to take a break and turn off for a while and let the boring fuckers carry the weight.

I've also been seeing rumors the next season may start as soon as November, which sounds way too early.

Jon has also arrived in Rhode Island:

 

[Noble Redditor]

I'm gonna end up saying this a million times but I hate Josiecels and it's going to suck shit if Jet thinks Josie's role was something they should look for in a contestant next time.

I'm pretty sure the staff feels the same way. Sam said the josiecells rigging every vote was annoying and made the experience less fun for everyone else. Personally I found her really boring throughout, and the only people who liked her were the lowest common denominator.

 

[Punitive Castration]

I'm pretty sure the staff feels the same way. Sam said the josiecells rigging every vote was annoying and made the experience less fun for everyone else. Personally I found her really boring throughout, and the only people who liked her were the lowest common denominator.

I hope so, I'm not sure they keyed into it. Some of that seemed to be said at times when Sam was just bitching to add to how they were pretending to give up on the show. And when it was getting really searingly bad (when white shark sprinkled sugar on Josie) it seemed like it was just totally remorseless coddling.

To me it seems like the final 2 should be people who 1) have the stamina and personality to be funny, interesting, or controversial everyday and 2) can riff with production in their own way.

I think the no-outside-variables final 2 should have been Jon and Letty, but obviously they just kinda wore Jon out and by the end even before the Cell 2 Letty was on her last legs. I guess the balance next season is to figure out how to not ride their most entertaining contestants into the dirt just because they'll give the grandest reactions to being fucked with, and how to eliminate the humorless lumps who don't react to being fucked with. Like, just to rewrite history - even Simmons was interesting (in a cringe way) early on and that was exactly why everyone started turning on him. And then after the fact it became obvious that he deserved it. But if he hadn't been a creep then it would have just been hammering Simmons for being cringe even though cringe>giving one-word answers>sitting in silence>sleeping.

Surviving the hellhouse is important too but given they already showed this last season that they're not gonna distribute the hell equally they might as well be imbalanced for the right reason and torture the people who are being boring.

edit: to compensate for rambling here is... chris, maybe? showing Jon what Milady NFT is.

 

[Aidan]

Josiecel simp, DewkyShwet made an animation on giving Josie a keyboard but rejecting him
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This is a gag between the two from her previous stream. Each gift from him she got, she'd act disappointed and say "He knows what he did..." People in chat taking it seriously was funny.
Josiecels have recognized that if you want to get her attention you can spend money on her with your name attached or make media with #josiegang and he's doing both. He's been around since the beginning, not much of a superchatter but is active in her stream chats.

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As for the stream itself, not much was said or shown that would be interesting to anyone who isn't already keeping up. She unboxed most of the things people bought on Throne and seemed to have fun with it. Shipping labels smartly covered beforehand. She read out new membership announcements and the superchat frequency was high enough to be annoying, I expected her to raise the chat read amount but she hasn't for weeks. You can tell when it wears on her sometimes, so many are nonsense.

Stream theme: Enjoy your gift.

Spoiler: Stream stuff

Peak views: ~550
Generally hovered between 420-440
Made $1,381

Notable weirdos

All Seeing Knap
queso4life
AutisticMMAguy
Quandilotor
hisocarl
ErrolBaer (Soulja Boy Hatsune Miku tattoo on leg)
Hooter Hot Toes aka Tony

• Had fun at Death Grips concert.
  • Met some fans
    • "One of those Snicker bars... that was from me!" - Some guy at Death Grips
    • Bumped into fans in the pit who'd go "Are you Josie?" before resuming
    • She preemptively apologizes for any awkward fan encounters to come
    • 
  • Enjoyed doing her post-concert IG Live at Round 1
  • Saw a guy with a Sam Hyde shirt. She said he stood there, unmoving, during the concert
    • 
• Since this was an unboxing stream, she set up an old phone to be a portable camera on stream. It's visible in the bottom left
  • 
• Chat was mixed between being happy she didn't pregame and asking why she didn't
  • "Drinking on a Monday sounds really depressing, maybe I won't do that."
  • She expected people to be overwhelmingly supportive of her sobriety on stream and called out the mixed takes later on
  • A recurring joke guy, Nathan, who people superchat saying he needs to do pushups apparently posted a pic of him drinking. She previously "advised" him to drink to help make streaming and video making easier.
    "Why would you ever take my advice? That's like the worst thing you can do."
    "Why are you guys taking my advice? That's a bad idea."
• Someone jokes that a punishment for gifted membership should be watching the 70-part Chris Chan documentary
  • "Is that really a punishment, though? It was really silly and pretty interesting. I don't know, it's kind of addictive. I've watched a fair bit of it, not all of it..."
• Someone asked what model BMW she has. She shares that it's a '96 BMW 318ti. Apparently it's still not fixed but is being worked on.
  • 
• She accidentally makes a HH slip
• A superchat asked about channel growth and leaving the MDE orbit.
  • "Hey Josie, one day you'll have to leave the MDE orbit. What are you going to do to grow your channel. You will eventually lose this if you don't have a plan. You dont want fishtank to be for nothing."
  • "Well you see, I'm just gonna keep doing me and if one day I fall off, it's nobody's fault. It was fun while it lasted. I'm gonna keep streaming, I'm gonna keep making my silly videos for anyone who wants to watch 'em, like the Anime Expo one. And you know what? Who knows- who knows, maybe the Anime Expo type videos will get new fans and if not, it's all good, it's all good. I had my once in a lifetime opportunity and it was epic."
• A superchat asked to see her PS2 games and she goes through them. Later, chat says she should stream them sometime and she says she doesn't know how to do that properly on an emulator. She now has an expensive capture card on her wishlist, we'll see if the paypigs oblige.

Spoiler: PS2 collection

ATV 4: Offroad Fury​

ATV2: Offroad Fury​

B-Boy​

Crazy Frog Arcade Racer​

Crazy Taxi​

Dance Dance Revolution Extreme 2​

Dance Dance Revolution Supernova​

Devil May Cry 2​

Flow Urban Dance Uprising​

Gran Turismo 3​

Gran Turismo 4​

Guitar Hero II​

King of Fighters 2002​

King of Fighters 2003​

Medal of Honor Frontline​

Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty​

Midway Arcade Treasures 2​

Mortal Kombat 4​

Mortal Kombat Armageddon​

Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance​

Mortal Kombat Deception​

Mortal Kombat Trilogy​

MX SuperFly​

Need For Speed: Underground​

Pop’n Music 8​

Resident Evil: Code Veronica X​

Singstar​

Space Channel 5 Special Edition​

Super Monkey Ball Deluxe​

Tekken Tag Tournament​

The Ant Bully​

The Nightmare Before Christmas: Oogie’s Revenge​

The Simpsons Road Rage​

TimeSplitters​

TimeSplitters 2​

Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater 4​

Members stream today at the same time as Vance and Sylvia's on Vance's channel. 1 hour from now.

I'm gonna end up saying this a million times but I hate Josiecels and it's going to suck shit if Jet thinks Josie's role was something they should look for in a contestant next time. She got to the end by not making any choices or maneuvers or even having any outstandingly interesting or funny moments that the producers didn't tell her to do. I think they thought the other contestants would bully her for being retarded which doesn't show great insight into the minds of adults. Instead she just got a bunch of incels to spoil all the polls and make all the contestants want to hand the win over to her.

I agree that a future "Josie role" would suck shit, everyone needs to move on from Season 1 and nothing in Season 2 should be done with Season 1 fish in mind.
I disagree on her performance, but you already know that. Doing "well" in the show didn't require maneuvers or forced interactions, I should find and clip where she outlined her strategy which was to do her own thing outside of challenges and go hard on challenges. What josiecels did during the show is outside of her control.

The closest Josie ever got to doing anything of her own volition was when Letty poured stuff on her bed and Josie got convinced it was Sylvia but even then, that was started by Letty, and she got misled by Letty which is what made it not a two-minute "I think it was Letty. It was. The end" moment.

More accurately, she didn't care until Jet walked in and told her it was probably Sylvia. If Jet never said anything she wouldn't have done anything but cleaned up the mess and moved on.
Getting fooled by Letty and then asking TTS to compliment her terrible, unfinished Sylvia makeup was funny, though.

If there's some boring-ass waifu again next season who gets coddled by everyone it's going to suck.

Absolutely.

(when white shark sprinkled sugar on Josie)

Red shark except I think it was Ben. Looked white on infrared. Very lazy shark attack attempt, I was excited for it since it was the night of her naked Fatty shutdown so potentially her lowest moment, yet the attack was so lackluster it likely served to boost her morale instead.

I think Sam thought Josie was lame but okay with it since she made money.

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Josie has configured a Fishtank-style camera she can turn on and off.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

She got to the end by not making any choices or maneuvers or even having any outstandingly interesting or funny moments that the producers didn't tell her to do.

Nearly every Josie standout moment from the show was her doing the quirky stimming shit and the neckbeards in the audience soyfacing over it. You can see it in the highlight reels people made of her. It's never her actually doing something or being funny but her being UwU so ADORABLE MY ANIME WAIFU!! She was silent for literally 90%+ of the show.

If there's some boring-ass waifu again next season who gets coddled by everyone it's going to suck. I think something we talked about in the sneedchat was that the format of the show seems to give great short-term rewards to people like Jon and Letty but also wears through them for being interesting like a Converse sneaker on the Appalachian Trail. Maybe if they're going to do immunity like they pretended to do this season it needs to go to people like them to give them a chance to take a break and turn off for a while and let the boring fuckers carry the weight.

100% agree with you. The waifu shit got incredibly obnoxious by the end. The special treatment and total takeover of voting and chats was insufferable. I hope Jet and Sam prevent it from happening again. I mean shit Josie really only won because she was by far the more popular of the two.

 

[Punitive Castration]

I disagree on her performance, but you already know that. Doing "well" in the show didn't require maneuvers or forced interactions, I should find and clip where she outlined her strategy which was to do her own thing outside of challenges and go hard on challenges. What josiecels did during the show is outside of her control.

I don't think it can be described as "forced interactions." Some things are "fake"- if the literal sole reason it was being done was "for the show." Like Sylvia fighting Frank was "fake." But Jon rambling about how McDonald's Chicken Nuggets are made out of abducted children or Letty asking Alex Stein about black gay porn is just being an inherently good contestant by virtue of being good television. And most of what wasn't done for challenges wasn't even done to be funny it was done because they had 42 days to kill and nobody but Josie wanted to spend that time being bored and boring.

In contrast, Josie has what? Sitting in the dark, alone? Can we cite anything she ever did when she was "doing her own thing" that's worth mentioning after the show? I can just rapid-fire things that were good from other contestants that had nothing to do with challenges: the water gun fight, the poop trial, simmons and jon wrestling, Vance teaching people to drum, Damiel throwing out Letty's makeup (both times), people telling Chris to sing Simple Man over and over...

I think what contestants did when there wasn't a challenge on was 90% of the grade. Like most eliminations were just an expression of who the producers wanted to eliminate. So really Josie's only merit was she was not fat, not a pedophile, and didn't quit the show.

If Jet never said anything she wouldn't have done anything but cleaned up the mess and moved on.

This is the kind of thing that should be intolerable, not to do the Simmons "yes and" thing but refusing to play off of what you are given is nontent.

She was silent for literally 90%+ of the show.

I'm still catching up on that chunk I didn't see (slowly, since i only watch like 2 hours a day every other day or so) and there's an early morning bit on Day 4 where Josie and Letty are alone in the kitchen together for the first time and Letty starts probing her with questions, being very personable, trying to get to know her better, and Josie. Literally. Doesn't answer her. Literally like
"when did you go to bed" "..............."
"how did you sleep" "................"
"I had a bad dream, did you dream" "yes"
"what'd you dream" "............"

it's fucking awful, man. how is that worth simping over

 

[BeetleBug242]

I liked Sylvia because she’s fat and fell a lot lol.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

In contrast, Josie has what? Sitting in the dark, alone? Can we cite anything she ever did when she was "doing her own thing" that's worth mentioning after the show? I can just rapid-fire things that were good from other contestants that had nothing to do with challenges: the water gun fight, the poop trial, simmons and jon wrestling, Vance teaching people to drum, Damiel throwing out Letty's makeup (both times), people telling Chris to sing Simple Man over and over...

Josie was completely uninteresting on her own. She said "ermm what the spruce?" and played with baby toys. That's about it when it comes to doing her own thing. Almost everything interesting she did was the result of one of the producers (Jet coming up with the plushie dance, Goldstriker Wonka monologue) or other Fish. If Josie wasn't a cute Asian looking 21 year old no one would be talking about her. She would have the same reputation as people like Mauro who slept most of the show.

 

[Aidan]

...being an inherently good contestant by virtue of being good television.

Yeah that's definitely not what Josie was about, though she was good for views doing her own thing. I think it's mostly due to her interactions with TTS and the viewers in general.
Ignoring the waifu-watchers, I think seeing Josie as a good or bad fish boils down to fish expectations. Should they interact with others leading to dynamic, mutual content or generally be entertaining? Everyone's individual entertainment is subjective but the crew let people do whatever so it was up to the fish. Josie was more comfortable interacting with TTS than people and actively avoided drama, that's how she is. It was up to production to get rid of her if that isn't what they wanted.

Can we cite anything she ever did when she was "doing her own thing" that's worth mentioning after the show?

Blind Josie, impersonation challenge, plushie fighting, working out (terribly) various times, drawings, politely hating Betty's yarn in B1, garage sparring, detective Josie after Jet pinned the soda spill on Sylvia, brainstorming with TTS

This is the kind of thing that should be intolerable, not to do the Simmons "yes and" thing but refusing to play off of what you are given is nontent.

She didn't see the point in getting involved in revenge, she knew it'd escalate meaning more to put up with and it always gets gross where she'd be the one cleaning it up. I'd argue she wasn't given anything to work with anytime anyone made a mess in her room.

If Josie wasn't a cute Asian looking 21 year old no one would be talking about her.

Yeah

She would have the same reputation as people like Mauro who slept most of the show.

Nah. Too responsive to viewers and never reads.

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Jet is streaming with Jon. Jet looks rough.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

Nah. Too responsive to viewers and never reads.

I went a bit overboard with the Mauro comparison. Mauro literally contributed nothing to the show. Outside of when he came back as a freeloader and slapped Chris I could literally not name one single Mauro moment. Zero. Josie when pushed could do well in challenges and in the skits they did.

 

[Aidan]

The stream has been Jet and Jon hanging out, no superchats until later on.
Jon does pullups on the party bus and is apparently not the driver, so what is he? Jon blocked Damiel recently because he's tired of the stuff he posts.

Jet mentioned condensing "several days of footage into 20 minutes." Yeah a lot is going to be skipped.
Much later on, Jet tells Jon and any fish watching that there will probably be a second wave of interest in a couple of months when they release the episodes.

 

[Punitive Castration]

Not notes for the whole stream, just notes for a chunk I watched:

Jet said, 10-12 22 minute episodes, longer episodes for people with the season pass.
Someone asked Jet if he will do a fan-controlled roomba cam and he said he doesn't want to talk about it because he's seriously considering it.
Is worried about casting because everyone he cast this season was """"unique"""" and he is worried they will run into the sequel issue.
Chat asked Jon if he fears the NDA, he said Sam told him it's not being enforced, Jet said yeah nobody gives a shit.

Blind Josie, impersonation challenge, plushie fighting, working out (terribly) various times, drawings, politely hating Betty's yarn in B1, garage sparring, detective Josie after Jet pinned the soda spill on Sylvia, brainstorming with TTS

You said "doing her own thing." Being told to be blind or to impersonate people or to spar are not her doing her own thing, she was told to do all three of those things. And at any time she was doing the challenge everyone else also was, usually better. Vance won impersonations, and that day of disabilities (even though it wasn't a day with a winner he won it, that's impossible to argue against).

That all you had outside of that is "she saw yarn and didn't react to it" and "she tried to work out and hurt herself" is kind of telling, isn't it? Do I even need to elaborate? All she had was the soda thing and we only ever point to that because it was the first time in possibly weeks that she seemed aware of the people around her. And she only got there because of Jet.
edit: And they literally did more or less tell her directly to get into a confrontation with Ella. And Josie just seemed to go "uh, nah lol" and didn't.

It's not her fault that the producers didn't snuff her sooner and that her fans propelled her past where she deserved to go home, but I would literally rank her below Sylvia in terms of who deserved to finish where. As @BeetleBug242 rightly pointed out, Sylvia was funny because she fat and she fell over. She got laughs out of me on purpose sometimes, even. Josie basically had the entertainment value of the empty gumball machine.

 

[Aidan]

You said "doing her own thing."

Misunderstanding on meaning. I think it's absurd to say anyone did anything truly unprompted except Josie and Letty; even then we now know Letty was encouraged to act out by the crew. Most of Josie's truly independent moments that were interesting were here messing around in her room and if you don't like that then you don't like it but a sizable portion of the viewers did and you can't ignore that. Her being a weirdo was often more entertaining than kitchen/living room cam where you relied on TTS messing with people for entertainment more than fish engagement.

That all you had outside of that is "she saw yarn and didn't react to it" and "she tried to work out and hurt herself" is kind of telling, isn't it?

She did react to it, multiple times and said straight up that she didn't like it in the confessional.
She never hurt herself working out independently, it was something she did while killing time and bouncing off of TTS. During the camping challenge she did it when everyone else was literally lying around for hours on end.

All she had was the soda thing and we only ever point to that because it was the first time in possibly weeks that she seemed aware of the people around her. And she only got there because of Jet.

What is the proper thing to do with the soda? The winning move with Letty is not to play. Josie knows Letty will get grosser than she's willing to and said as much.

Post-tank shows the Josie appeal pretty well. She's responsive to fans in her own way and puts out interactive content. In the tank, the content was usually messing around on her own. Out of the tank, the content is usually messing around on her own. There was never a reason for her not to do that and it's who she is, any issues you have with her longevity should be directed at Jet.
She enjoyed organized activities but isn't going to organize them herself, it's part of why Alex Stein was her favorite freeloader and she was happy to be involved then.

 

[Archive]

The more I see of Sam and Jet, the more disdain I get towards them. Nick is truly the only good thing to come from MDE IMO. He was always the funniest of the three, Sam and Chuck. I’m glad he didn’t involve himself in fishtank. It’s getting insufferable watching scuffed realtor with illiterate retard Chris reading donations. Holy shit, more like malignant tumor. Jet and Nick had a good dynamic. Fishtank fucked that over.

 

[Aidan]

An anon reuploaded her stream as an unlisted video. It's not that entertaining, she plays with the slime toy early on if you want to wince at that a bit. There are some bits where she shares lore but it's spread throughout. I'll go back through later to get them.
She mentions she shared her room with her uncle years ago, for example. During Fishtank she mentioned that she had a lot of family living there at one point and it sucked because they only have one bathroom.

Fresh members post, she struggled with this slime toy on stream today but figured it out on her own.


During the stream she mentioned she'd be drinking soju tonight and may do an IG Live in her room. She's probably drunk by now.

 

[Sapphixys Shitty Panties]

Neg rate me all y'all want, but they should of slow burned Simmons instead of immediately booting him from the show. Pepper in his "literature" to everyone else in the house while he was still in there. Would of made shit more compelling. Not saying he should of won, or even been in there for weeks, but they could of had more fun with his retarded shit while he was still in there. If it came down to some sort of physical confrontational, I'll bet even Letty could of kicked the shit out of Simmons.