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With a (questionable) W from James Drake, how would you rate season 5 of Fishtank?

  • 1 Star — Absolute disaster. Unwatchable, boring, production fucked it up bad, the fish were lame

    Votes: 56 7.3%

  • 2 Stars — Pretty bad. Some funny moments, dragged, too many vibe repair days. Barely worth checking.

    Votes: 87 11.4%

  • 3 Stars — Average. Solid entertainment in spots, some good chaos and crashouts, but nothing special

    Votes: 169 22.1%

  • 4 Stars — Really good. Lots of hilarious moments, strong fish personalities, solid content and vibes

    Votes: 405 53.0%

  • 5 Stars — Peak Fishtank / Masterpiece. Non-stop insanity, legendary fish and production, pure chaos

    Votes: 47 6.2%
  • Total voters
    764
My headcannon of why she's saying she was analy raped is because it reinforces the idea of Sam being Gay.
 
I'm not usually the person to be posting conspiracy theory shit but some of the stuff Summer was saying in her IG livestream is eerily similar to the bullshit Channing accused Sam of. Specifically anally raping other people and being a closeted homosexual. When she would come into the Sam Hyde thread she insisted both Sam and Jet liked fucking dudes. I wonder if she talked to Channing and her schizophrenic mind turned that into a reality. We already know Channing obsessively has been stalking Sam for the past 10 years it's not really out of the realm of reality she talked with her and planted these ideas in her head




 
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Aidan said:
Perhaps I'm just being a grump but what is Fishtank at this point? It seems like it's primarily a playground for MDE and friends to do whatever they want.
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C. Cactus said:
What do you think Fishtank is supposed to be, therapy? When was the show ever supposed to be about "advancing culture?"
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I think there is an actual answer. Sam said something that stood out to me in the interview he and Jet did with Michael Malice.

This is at around 53:00 in the interview (YouTube).

"There are no rituals or traditions for boys to become men." You can see this has been an aspect of the show, even one they have focused on. Problem is that its a male centered aim, and they have women on as well. In this interview they bring up something I've heard as "Women are born rich and die poor, men are born poor and die rich", they talk about a quote from Camille Paglia that "Men need to become and women are". It does shed light on how women in general have been a bit ignored in terms of arcs I think. What should you do? The equivalent to the male ritual of throwing you deep into the woods to see if you can make your way back home for a woman is motherhood. The show is not able to deal with that.
The concept has only expressed itself with TJ. I think its worked to some extent, but this is not really functional as a direction for the show unless you want to turn it into some male-only bootcamp.

They also defend winging it in this interview, Jet thinks Synchronicity means you don't need to try and he's on a holy mission. They should try. Fishtank desperately needs structure going forward. Not only is the lack of structure annoying to watch at times, but it makes the Fish unable to respect Production and if they want to do their gaslighting, they need a foundation of trust to betray at least.
I do like that Fishtank is a show where you pay $20 to call someone a retard, but that is not all it could be.
 
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I hope Shinji sees these videos when he gets out and doesn't follow through with his plans to reconnect with Summer, she is legit crazy and unstable.
 
Steinercard said:
What most likely happened is Channing started talking to Summer knowing full well Summer was going into an episode. And insidiously started reframing every action Sam and Production did.

"No they weren't trying to restrain you during a violent manic episode. Sam Hyde held you down and raped you."

I suspect this because Channing herself tried to do the exact same thing to multiple incidents of Sam's in his thread. Thinking we were as gullible as she is.

Channing you used up piss rag for a heroin addict, you're actively fucking around with a mentally ill woman. This will not go how you think it will based on both your own and Summer's mental illness.
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While I agree this is what happened, I think it's funny in a way this is what story she's been convinced of.

The time she went down to the basement I would bet anything Sam was not there, it was the middle of the night.

Sam is somebody we know goes home. Jet and Josie and Vance live in the basement as far as we know but nobody else seems to sleep down there (maybe Ben)

The lie is unbelievable. She should've gone with Goran Rapistovic instead, we'd all believe that.
 
The Man With No Name said:
While I agree this is what happened, I think it's funny in a way this is what story she's been convinced of.

The time she went down to the basement I would bet anything Sam was not there, it was the middle of the night.

Sam is somebody we know goes home. Jet and Josie and Vance live in the basement as far as we know but nobody else seems to sleep down there (maybe Ben)

The lie is unbelievable. She should've gone with Goran Rapistovic instead, we'd all believe that.
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I don't think I've ever seen Sam in the house after 1am.
 
Alizaran Crimson said:
Here's a youtube recording of [Summer's] Instagram live, thanks @ChuckSneeder
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Timestamp=9min

Best Summer quote ever...

"The entire MDE team is under some form of blackmail. For instance, a lot of the members are gay... And they don't want people to know for some reason."

Please please please Sam investigate - on camera - which members of the MDE crew are gay.

Hook them up to lie detectors, penile plethysmography,... whatever it takes.

The public has a right to know.
 
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Sam is somebody we know goes home. Jet and Josie and Vance live in the basement as far as we know but nobody else seems to sleep down there (maybe Ben)
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It couldn't have been Sam because he wasn't there. Ben most likely went home. It couldn't have been Jet because he's gay. That leaves only Vance and Josie. Vance has a loving girlfriend who flew out to see him on occasion so I doubt he's feeling very lonely. That only leaves Josie - the six foot tall Comanche. You give the natives a little bit of fire water and who knows what will happen next.

"Sam is gay therefore Sam must have been the one to rape that girl." is top Channing.
 
Sicko Hunter said:
I'm not usually the person to be posting conspiracy theory shit but some of the stuff Summer was saying in her IG livestream is eerily similar to the bullshit Channing accused Sam of. Specifically anally raping other people and being a closeted homosexual. When she would come into the Sam Hyde thread she insisted both Sam and Jet liked fucking dudes. I wonder if she talked to Channing and her schizophrenic mind turned that into a reality. We already know Channing obsessively has been stalking Sam for the past 10 years it's not really out of the realm of reality she talked with her and planted these ideas in her head
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This is obviously what happened but the problem is that Summer repeating all of it makes it less reliable, not more.
 
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Summer is currently streaming live on Instagram following a post and comments claiming to have been drugged, then anally and vaginally raped by Sam down in the basement.
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Without knowing exactly when those pictures were taken, it's hard to say when the bruises occured. But those bruises are about 10+ days old based on the coloration. For them to have occurred on day 4, which is the day before she left and spent the night in the doghouse/basement, she would have taken the pics around New Year's Eve/Day when she was still in her "I love Sam Hyde and MDE" mode.

Realistically, the bruises are probably from her being restrained at the first hospital she was admitted to, as she claims it took NINE people to hold her down and sedate her. The timeline would still be roughly the same, as she spent the night in the basement on December 21, and was admitted to Kent (and had her psychotic break in the airport) on December 22.
 
retard strength II said:
How do you not understand Captcha?

Anyway they told the fish retarded Chris Points do matter and are being used for elimination, days after telling them they don't. This fucking show.
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tbf i think that was an intentional joke. i still dont think the real point toals matter as chris has been giving them arbitrary amounts. theyre probably just gonna say trish has the least cause its time for her to go.
 
retard strength II said:
How do you not understand Captcha?

Anyway they told the fish retarded Chris Points do matter and are being used for elimination, days after telling them they don't. This fucking show.
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It makes sense if the fish expect to be gaslighted. Confuse them by constantly contradicting yourself, make them care about Chris Points "just in case". I think it's also bullshit.
 
Channing, I know you’re reading this, since you love attention so much. Manipulating someone that crazy and vulnerable into fighting your petty crusade against Sam is some of the most disgusting shit I’ve ever seen. Kys nigger.
 
If they were going to use any points it would have to be Oliver points since he did them at a reasonable scale, Chris would mandate you do some kind of retardedly complex task for 100 points then 10,000 for opening him a can of soda. The scale is just absolutely fucked.

I notice a lot of people started ranting about Tay's comment and hatred of OF but her "porn is okay" comment following it right afterwards. Its really simple, Tay has grown up in the social media era and Onlyfans has been marketed as some kind of women's empowerment shit where you can make tons of money for little effort and its spread like wildfire, the OF girl Jackie that came in is apparently only 18 years old and already prostituting herself out on Onlyfans, the mass gaslighting and production of smut is what I think Tay hates, and if you go into the real world, other women hate. Women that hate Onlyfans don't even want to be near such women because they view them as some sort of infectious mental disease that could spread at any moment. Maybe Sam himself has this viewpoint, which is why he was so agitated over Jackie being brought on. As for the other comment, porn, strip clubs, brothels have always been around since ancient times, and society has always maintained the line from the movie Airplane "They bought their tickets! They knew what they were getting into!" the women that go into these careers are either profoundly damaged or exhibitionist and women can atleast understand that a basic form and structure around these industry such as bouncers in strip clubs or regulations in porn over STD provides some sort of safety in an industry that will always exist no matter how moral a society is.
 
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