For the first time in over 19 years there is now a software only exploit for xbox 360s - (aka the hypervisor got cracked)

[RiceofSkywalker]

It warms my heart to know that hacks for old consoles are being worked on. If modern consoles follow suit after the Switch (iirc, the dev of Atmosphere said the Switch kernel is only a few lines of code, aka pretty hard to fuck up and allow for softhacks), then these old consoles might be the last mountains to conquer before Big Tech 'wins' over the hackers for good. Thank God modern games aren't worth pirating anyway.

And when A1eXand3r saw the console boot into CFW, he wept, for there were no more consoles to mod.

Yeah but will it fix my red ring

 

[tehpope]

Wasn't the 360 built on PowerPC hardware? Might still be boring, but it wasn't AMD then.

The 360 and PS3 were both PowerPC based hardware. Nintendo used PPC until the Wii U. By that point, the Xbox One and PS4 switched to x86.

 

[Jobama]

It seems like the one has been hacked. Idk exactly much about it tho, its architecture always seemed really boring to me imo.

I wonder how many years it'll take before the same happens to the Xbox One if it took this long to happen to the 360.

The Xbox One has Dev mode which allows you to put emulators on it.

 

[Waff]

ok isnt this actually non viable from a user standpoint? isnt it like a 1 in 5 chance that you have to wait 20-30 mins to see if it even worked? EVERY FUCKING TIME YOU BOOT? It's very cool i do not debate that at all but the usefulness isn't there unless progress has been made that i am unaware of.

I suspect this is just the beginning. Its gonna take 20-30 minutes right now but with more of an ability to analyze the hypervisor than ever before it is likely this process will become quicker and more refined. The fact there is already a launcher and patches within 5 days of this discovery is evidence enough.

Will this help with emulation? Probably not? I just don't see a point in Xbox 360 now, you can't run games higher than 1080p. Tried my old console on new 4k TV and it looks not good, at least with emulation you can bring resolution up, if you have powerful enough pc.

Id assume a tad. Understanding your hardware and what cpu processes are passed where is always benificial....especially when reasearch is showing right now some of it is passed through the hypervisor.

 

[BullfrogBill]

I just don't see a point in Xbox 360 now, you can't run games higher than 1080p. Tried my old console on new 4k TV and it looks not good

1080p games and movies on a 4k screen isn't that bad lol. You have to get your face right up to the screen to even see any blurriness or pixels. I'm no expert on the subject but I would be shocked if there were no upscaling video cords available for the 360 since I can buy cords that upscale my Dreamcast and Gamecube consoles to 1080p and they look gorgeous. I don't know if upscaling 1080p to 4k is as easy though.

 

['Ole Dente]

before Big Tech 'wins' over the hackers for good.

Chip technology is really interesting, it jumps leaps and bounds every…christ, every 4 years or so? I’m not talking small leaps, like monstrous retard gaps and provided we get some access to quantum computing in the next 10-ish years, there will be a moment where winning over the hackers will be a thing of the past. Once we pass that hurdle, shit is going to change in scary ways.

 

[Mark Goldbridge]

Literally what's the fucking purpose at this point? It's not 2006, this exploit is almost useless. Just send your console to a guy to RGH it and play whatever the fuck you want, no need for waiting half an hour on each reboot.

Exactly, this is just a thing where it's "oh wow we finally did it" but it's obsolete with the years of xbox emulation that has been developed since 2006.

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

Literally what's the fucking purpose at this point? It's not 2006, this exploit is almost useless. Just send your console to a guy to RGH it and play whatever the fuck you want, no need for waiting half an hour on each reboot.

The point is the same reason people climb mount everest and take a shit on it, because it's there and to fucking piss off billy gates.

Sometimes we learn something interesting, and it keeps progressing, and can help keep a system alive.

Piracy isn't the only reason to mod a console.

 

[MetokurGroomedMe]

I suspect this is just the beginning. Its gonna take 20-30 minutes right now but with more of an ability to analyze the hypervisor than ever before it is likely this process will become quicker and more refined.

people don't get that.

to see a good example of why it matters, looking at vita hacking is a good idea. they lost access to a method that had a hack on boot, and a lot of what was done afterward was building the groundwork for it to be restored, and it took literal years of new talent, fresh eyes entering the scene and seeing what was done before them, and working to build more onto it.

The point is the same reason people climb mount everest and take a shit on it, because it's there and to fucking piss off billy gates.

Sometimes we learn something interesting, and it keeps progressing, and can help keep a system alive.

Piracy isn't the only reason to mod a console.

sometimes people just like taking apart their toys and making them work differently/more effectively, even if t here's an off the shelf version that's better. the people who do that taking apart and optimizing are often the ones building the new versions on store shelves that are so convenient for the average person.

 

[Maori Kiwifruit Growers]

They just became yet another computer as an appliance. Basically just a PC with layers of custom software that stops you from just using it as a PC. Most hardware developments in the last 10 years or so have mostly just been trying to keep people as far away from the metal as possible so they can keep selling you the same shit over and over again and make you pay in perpetuity to use your hardware.

outside of hyper performance and technical/business/research applications. For the average home consumer has anything really changed so drastically that I need to buy a new upgraded system (or pc)?

 

[Cement Fiend]

This makes me want to buy a 360 to try it so I can see what it's like before inevitable improvements.

It kind of reminds me of the old 3ds days where hacking it could take upwards of hours (at least, this is what i remember from back when ninjahax/ironhax was the main method, far before bruteforcing became a thing for a while). While it's true that for end users there isn't much you can do with it for now, it is nonetheless a very exciting development for a console that has been stuck with hardmodding for far too long.

I don't pay much attention to the home console scenes so hopefully I can remember to keep track of this shit. Gotta cherish it while it lasts, I don't think this sort of shit will be nearly as exciting for anything modern. Unless Switch 2 ends up with another stupid fuckin' hardware exploit (god willing).

 

[Grub]

outside of hyper performance and technical/business/research applications. For the average home consumer has anything really changed so drastically that I need to buy a new upgraded system (or pc)?

I don't think so. My computer's a little over ten years old now and other than modern HD games I do pretty much the same things I've always done with updated modern versions of the software I used when my computer was new. It's definitely not the same as when I bought a laptop in 2007 to replace the desktop I made in 2000. The difference between those two was huge.

 

[ZipDisk]

difficult/stupid hacks precede easy/smart hacks. The point is the door has been opened.

Also, funny it's the tony hawk sturpa hack (I'm not going to spell it right)

 

[Waff]

difficult/stupid hacks precede easy/smart hacks. The point is the door has been opened.

Also, funny it's the tony hawk sturpa hack (I'm not going to spell it right)

People don't get this. For fucks sake the whole reason the wii can even be hacked so much these days is cause of the fact some retard put a pair of tweezers into his wii. If they stopped at that the console would be limited to that and those now super rare 20 pin wii modchips

 

[Mike Matei's Penis]

No point tbh, 360 controllers are unable to be bought and all broken now. Recomps and emulation is the way forward

 

[RefurbishedApparatus]

I just want to experience Call Of duty Modern Warfare 2 the way god intended back in 2009:

 

[hog cranking frog]

Is anyone out there selling 360 mod services? I'd love to take my old 360 and have it running the entire games library and the old blades UI.

 

[Waff]

I just want to experience Call Of duty Modern Warfare 2 the way god intended back in 2009:

I mean that may happen one day. If you look at the original xbox, things like insignia brought back xbox live. I will stress though that it would be far better if one of you guys got to working on having a backup xbox 360 live service setup rather than people like the insignia devs as their project has a code of conduct and has a social media covered with gay flags.

 

[tehpope]

1080p games and movies on a 4k screen isn't that bad lol. You have to get your face right up to the screen to even see any blurriness or pixels. I'm no expert on the subject but I would be shocked if there were no upscaling video cords available for the 360 since I can buy cords that upscale my Dreamcast and Gamecube consoles to 1080p and they look gorgeous. I don't know if upscaling 1080p to 4k is as easy though.

There's mcable adapters. that upscale to 4k. But I think if you want to do it properly, the retrotink 4k is where its at. Its pretty expensive, starting at $475. But its basically the end game for upscalers. Since it can do everything from nes to ps3.

Most PS360 games usually run in 720p and get upscaled by the system to 1080p. There are games that run even lower at like 540p.

It probably doesn't matter though. It'll look fine regardless. Upscaling the system isn't a magic switch. Its still using the same textures and what not from the original game. If you want fancy shit like you see in emulators, run an emulator.

No point tbh, 360 controllers are unable to be bought and all broken now. Recomps and emulation is the way forward

You can buy adapters to use other system controllers on the 360. I'm pretty sure there's homebrew to allow you to use bluetooth controllers on the system with a cheap adapter. I've never tried that though. Years ago, I got this wired mayflash adapter. It works well. I can do ps1/2/3/4 and xbox one / series controllers on it.

https://consolemods.org/wiki/Xbox_360:Xbox_360_Mods_Wiki

 

[BullfrogBill]

If you want fancy shit like you see in emulators, run an emulator.

I love pc emulation as much as anybody but there are lots of games on any console that don't run properly in some form or fashion when emulated on a pc, sometimes the software just doesn't click with certain games. An emulator can do a lot but there is still a limit to what they can do. It's nice to have og consoles and copies of games you like so you know you can play it as intended if you want. You know there isn't going to be slowdown, or strange audio glitches in certain parts of games, none of that crap. You can always count on games on the real thing will operate properly as long as your console isn't trashed.