Forgotten / Memory-holed Psyops - What things do you believe were pushed heavily into public consciousness only to be forgotten that they were pushed at all?

[Whoopsie Daisy]

How would you fish starfish? It lives on the bottom of the ocean and tangles itself in coral.

Why would you fish it? It's inedible and useless.

@Sneedenhagenchew says it better than I did and I explained it poorly. Maybe we're dealing with a lost in translation situation.

Jesus fucking christ you're more retarded than the people posting in the Russian Non-Military Operation thread lol.

taking a side in that conflict, then announcing which side you're on, in a thread about memory-holed psyops, where said conflict is a psyop, is probably not the smartest thing to do.

Food doesn't come from supermarket citytard. Touch grass.

I live on a small-holding
I spend the majority of my day touching grass.

 

[Mage Killer]

Pardon it being Vice but this is the interview i'm referring to. I don't blame you for remembering it being that way but that's exactly what I mean- no matter how many times he actually said what his end goal was he has been completely overshadowed by a genuine psyop.

NVM I watched the video. I still don't get, why not just give it up for free instead or just sell it at the 30 dollar pricetag?

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Does the "Let's be more like the bonobos" count as being memoryholed? Seems like every once in a while you'll hear of someone in the social sciences advocating for it and then it quickly goes away as though to keep people from actually looking more into bonobos to draw strikingly-eerie parallels to what the globalhomo was pushing. The mouse utopia experiments are brought up more than bonobos albeit it's used more to push overpopulation.

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Oh I remember that big-time getting pushed hard in Schools even to this day.

There was a Captain Planet episode about it as well.

Here are three that come to mind:

1. That "there is a national security threat" during the Biden era when they were still playing nuclear war chicken with Russia, something about Russia having space nukes. I also recall seeing ads for a movie about a war between Russia and America set in space around the same time.
2. That David Hogg and the Latina with a lesbian haircut bullied Nicolas Cruz pretty badly before the Parkland shooting; that same Latina girl completely disappeared from the media landscape after she let that slip.
3. Madison Cawthorn talking about gay cocaine orgies with prominent house and senate members.

 

[melty]

Carpal tunnel was a big scare in the 90s/ early 00s. It was supposed to affect a huge amount of new people the more that computer keyboards were used and was being hyped up as a big future problem. I haven't heard anyone talk about it in years.

 

[Toolbox]

Carpal tunnel was a big scare in the 90s/ early 00s. It was supposed to affect a huge amount of new people the more that computer keyboards were used and was being hyped up as a big future problem. I haven't heard anyone talk about it in years.

Just another thing people got used to that wasn't worth the fear factor. Smartphones may have decreased the impact too with not as many people relying on mice and physical keyboards, so we only really had a couple of decades of it potentially being a 'big deal'.

And then there's all the various bullshit they spread and never bothered to correct like bodies being cremated in pizzarias, mass graves in new York, etc. Meanwhile just saying that for most people who had a functioning immune system covid is basically just a slightly stronger flu you can lie through without any big issues would get you kicked out of polite company and banned off of social media. Something was also very fishy to me when they all casually admitted it came out of a lab in China, probably to make it sound even more serious.

The early weeks of the news coming out of China are still very weird to look back on. I'm not sure if it was a western psyop, a chinese one, both, or Chinas smog and various pollution issues really are that bad (combined with malnutrition). When it was being informally called wuflu, before western news sources really started taking it seriously, there were videos coming out of people just dropping dead in China, of the vans disappearing the sick, of drones flying around telling people to stay indoors. Not to mention supposedly welding people inside their apartments. Not that I doubt the CCP is that insane, but this stuff gets to the US, Europe, etc and only the mass hysteria happens. Well, various governments also found their own ways to be authoritatian about it, but where there should have been major deaths in cities you basically saw nothing, and I can't say I really see the impact of what that should have done. Maybe I'm supposed to believe their variant was also way stronger than a more contagious one that inevitably got everywhere.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Carpal tunnel was a big scare in the 90s/ early 00s. It was supposed to affect a huge amount of new people the more that computer keyboards were used and was being hyped up as a big future problem. I haven't heard anyone talk about it in years.

With the number of artists out there, especially now with tablets and how arm/hand placement and position is very important for comfort, you'd think you'd hear of more carpal tunnel sufferers, but nope. On rare occasions I can feel the bones in my hand cramp, but it goes away after rest and some wrist rolls. I hear more of pianists and avid phone-users fucking up their wrists than artists.

Honestly have no idea how an artist can fuck up their hand otherwise outside of very poor posture and having no rest time.

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

When they said covid can shrink your dick I got a little suspicious.

 

[Peaches the Wonder Cat]

No you're right. The problem is simply that there's too few animals eating the starfish. And you're right that it's not white people fucking the food chain up. Reintroduction of native fauna is a bit trickier when it's saltwater fish, but aquaculture is increasingly advanced as a technology and hopefully it gets put to good use in situations like this. Starfish baby boomers... the poor reefs.

Can't we just tell the Chinese that "Starfish Soup" is better than "Sharkfin Soup"? Starfish will be gone in about 5 months.

 

[Meriasek]

With the number of artists out there, especially now with tablets and how arm/hand placement and position is very important for comfort, you'd think you'd hear of more carpal tunnel sufferers, but nope. On rare occasions I can feel the bones in my hand cramp, but it goes away after rest and some wrist rolls. I hear more of pianists and avid phone-users fucking up their wrists than artists.

Honestly have no idea how an artist can fuck up their hand otherwise outside of very poor posture and having no rest time.

Carpal tunnel and focal dystonia are known problems among many musician circles. I know it's a big deal in guitar where everyone fears being incapacitated by carpal tunnel, and there are quite a few well known guitarists and bass players around that wear gloves on their fretting hands because it helps with focal dystonia.
Carpal might have become less of an issue due to so many resources available these days that teach beginners good practices from the start so that people playing in fucked up ways like Marty Friedman don't happen that much anymore. They'll get told immediately to fix their technique.
It is interesting how the trend of ergonomic keyboards somewhat disappeared (at least to my knowledge), although vertical and other ergonomic mice are still around a lot. Personally I only ever really had wrist problems with the mouse, not the keyboard.

 

[Nice Stick]

Koko and ape sign language was fake.

What about the heart-warming stories of human-ape understanding? Human handlers interacted with the apes for thousands of hours, and occasionally the human interpretation of a string of signs would stand out as interesting. But, this makes the interesting sign combinations look more like generous interpretations of anecdotes that were cherry-picked, or fed to the ape by human handlers, and not a conscious thinking pattern.

What’s more, the meaning of the signs was very easy to over-interpret. Is water bird the intellectual combination of two concepts to indicate a waterfowl? Or is it just rote repetition that a lake and a bird are nearby, combined with generous and wishful human interpretation? Studies in the field generally focused on picking unusual instances out of thousands of hours footage, rather than systematically studying whether apes expressed meaningful ideas. When Terrace did this, he found that interesting sentences began to look like drops in the ocean.

Most of that footage demonstrated the apes producing word salads that contained signs for food or affection they desired. Usually these sentences were very short, and in no sense grammatical. Terrace noted that nearly all Nim’s sentences were two or three words long; extended sentences were very rare. The general pattern was: Nim or me followed by eat, play, tickle, banana, grape, or the like. Human children begin with short sentences. But they rapidly develop the ability to form longer sentences, conveying meaningful thoughts, asking questions, and expressing new ideas. Nim never did any of these things.

Nim once formed a sixteen-word sentence: give orange me give eat orange me eat orange give me eat orange give me you. If that sounds to you more like the nonsense babbling of a parrot, or what your dog might say to you if he saw that you had an orange, and much less like the thoughts of a child, you can see the problem.

https://bigthink.com/life/ape-sign-language/

 

[SIMON THE PIEMAN]

Koko and ape sign language was fake.

This is quite known thanks to this YouTube documentary.

 

[Jarolleon]

Not sure if this was actually a psyop or simply the result of the Internet being full of 14 year old edgelords at the time but George Carlin-ism. From the late 90s to around 2014 most of the Internet was inculcated into a narrow-minded cynicism typified by George Carlin's speeches. In this view all evil was driven by avarice and all good by empathy, and that religions, nations, ideologies &c. were merely Scientology-esque scams that had gotten out of hand. The only conspiracies that did exist were crusty old "banksters" colluding in their big club to rent-seek. It caused an entire generation to ignore all of the ideological subversives and ethnic mafias which entrenched themselves in Western institutions right under their noses.

This was so thoroughly shattered by the explosion in public wokeness in Obama's second term that most people forgot that this delusion existed, to the point that people now claim the Internet was a smarter place in the 2000s because the phoneposters and third-worlders hadn't arrived yet!

 

[NSA Intern]

Carpal tunnel was a big scare in the 90s/ early 00s. It was supposed to affect a huge amount of new people the more that computer keyboards were used and was being hyped up as a big future problem. I haven't heard anyone talk about it in years.

Half of this thread can be explained by the media chasing the latest hype trend doomscare for more views and thus adrev.

 

[FunkTism]

Half of this thread can be explained by the media chasing the latest hype trend doomscare for more views and thus adrev.

That is true, but with media working hand in hand with """outside interests""" (alphabet agencies, foreign countries, corporate interests, etc....). They are one of the one of main drivers of pyops, history craft, and social engineering.

 

[big pauper]

Not sure if this was actually a psyop or simply the result of the Internet being full of 14 year old edgelords at the time but George Carlin-ism. From the late 90s to around 2014 most of the Internet was inculcated into a narrow-minded cynicism typified by George Carlin's speeches. In this view all evil was driven by avarice and all good by empathy, and that religions, nations, ideologies &c. were merely Scientology-esque scams that had gotten out of hand. The only conspiracies that did exist were crusty old "banksters" colluding in their big club to rent-seek. It caused an entire generation to ignore all of the ideological subversives and ethnic mafias which entrenched themselves in Western institutions right under their noses.

This was so thoroughly shattered by the explosion in public wokeness in Obama's second term that most people forgot that this delusion existed, to the point that people now claim the Internet was a smarter place in the 2000s because the phoneposters and third-worlders hadn't arrived yet!

well it goes back to richard dawkins. during the bush era christian conservatism was the group being pandered to the most in mainstream media and the liberal establishment's response to that up until obama was to just rely on "cool" media figures like george carlin and it created the entire fedora neckbeard atheist mindset because there was like 30 years of milequetoast liberal soft agenda propaganda to fall back to. plus there was a media blitz surrounding intelligent science man talking about every hot button political issue of the day... with SCIENCE!

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Carpal tunnel was a big scare in the 90s/ early 00s. It was supposed to affect a huge amount of new people the more that computer keyboards were used and was being hyped up as a big future problem. I haven't heard anyone talk about it in years.

My mother actually used to do this when I was a child with me using computers and owning a Nintendo DS and Gamecube at the time. I'm now in my mid 20's, and I don't have carpal tunnel syndrome despite playing video games for years as a child/teenager.

 

[melty]

Half of this thread can be explained by the media chasing the latest hype trend doomscare for more views and thus adrev.

Yeah, I dont really think mine is evidence of a conspiracy, it's just journalists being journalists and hyping up the latest "crisis". But it's an interesting example nobody else brought up, so I wanted to mention it.

 

[Nice Stick]

This is quite known thanks to this YouTube documentary.

That video is way more disturbing than I expected.

 

[Jarolleon]

I believe that the Westboro Baptist Church was a Psyop meant to strawman opposition to LGBT shit.

They are a tiny church started in the 1950s no different from a dozen other similar evangelical nutcases around the rural USA. They have literally nothing unusual about them, until the 1990s when the pastor gets into some drama by calling gays degenerate. The pastor is then the target of a goddamn gay terror attack where they pipebomb his mailbox, so the pastor goes harder on gay bashing and they do a few local protests against it.

At the end of the 1990s one of these protests is covered on CNN, bringing the eyed of a lot of people who would never see such a thing to them. Shortly after they and start getting international attention despite their protests being like half a dozen retards with over the top placards. As the 2000s roll around they quickly make sure to alienate pretty much the entire traditional marriage and social conservative public by being rabidly anti-military to ensure so one would try and join their protest or side with them.

Then they spend over a decade talking about how fags need to burn in hell, fag marriage is wrong, fuck fags. Every time they make a protest it for some reason is national and international news, and people show up to conterprotest always and it makes for a media circus.

Then around 2014 when the issue is looking like it will be won by the fags they slowly start going away, and in 2015 when SCOTUS passes that Obergefel or whatever they barely even protest. And then by 2016 they are just fucking gone, their last ever protest apparently meant to take place celebrating the Orlando Mass Shooting because a bunch of faggots were shot there but it was canceled (interestingly they were gonna protest, but then it came out it was a islamic attack not a homophobic one and they dropped it).

And now they are gone, back to being a tiny ass church.

I heard (I think either on MATI or this site) that the WBC are all lawyers and their shtick was to provoke people into attacking them so that they could sue their pants off using laws written to protect civil rights protesters.

Edit: Found the Meat Target post about them, turns out it was Fred Phelps and his kids who were the lawyers, he was a civil rights lawyer disbarred in the 70s and soon after switched to this grift. He died in 2014 so that's likely why they fizzled out.