Forked-off Xlibre tells Wayland display protocol to DEI in a fire - "If you don't like it, fork it." "No not like that!"

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Forked-off Xlibre tells Wayland display protocol to DEI in a fire​

Project to modernize the X.org X11 server seems to actively court controversy​

Liam Proven
Tue 10 Jun 2025 7:00 UTC

The recently released Xlibre server aims to modernize the X.org X11 server and improve both its security and performance.

The XLibre Xserver is a fork of the X.org X server, started by long-term X.org maintainer Enrico Weigelt. The project aims to develop and improve the X.org display server, as an alternative to the newer and more fashionable Wayland display protocol.

We last mentioned Weigelt's work on improving X.org multimonitor support about a year ago. However, this was not his first appearance in the pages of The Register – back in 2021, Linus Torvalds rebuked him for spreading pseudo-scientific, anti-vaccination claims.

We suspect that such views will in fact appeal to some people, even if they are on the fringe of the FOSS world.

It is fair to say that Weigelt is no stranger to controversy, and this announcement is no different. The Reg FOSS desk has witnessed some remarkable levels of anti-X11 sentiment from Wayland proponents since the announcement… especially given that the subject under discussion is something as superficially trivial as the protocols that handle displaying Unix computers' graphical user interfaces. But, as we noted last month, ferociously passionate advocacy is a sad but inevitable aspect of software development.

We are confident this won't bother Weigelt a bit. In fact, the README file for X11Libre positively invites it, as it contains this:

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It's explicitly free of any "DEI" [diversity, equity, and inclusion] or similar discriminatory policies.
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Oh dear.

That statement, though, has received praise and approval in some places.

The same README states that the fork is a result of systematic attempts to suppress further development and improvement of the default FOSS X11 server:

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That fork was necessary since toxic elements within Xorg projects, moles from BigTech, are boycotting any substantial work on Xorg, in order to destroy the project, to elimitate [sic] competition of their own products. Classic "embrace, extend, extinguish" tactics.

Right after first journalists began covering the planned fork Xlibre, on June 6th 2025, Redhat [sic] employees started a purge on the Xlibre founder's gitlab account on freedesktop.org: deleted the git repo, tickets, merge requests, etc, and so fired the shot that the whole world heared [sic].

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Weigelt amplified these claims in an email to the xorg-devel mailing list. As far as we are able to see, the statement that his GitLab accounts have been deleted is true – for instance, this merge request says: "The source project of this merge request has been removed." His Freedesktop GitLab account now just says "This user is blocked" and most of his long list of merge requests have been summarily marked "closed."

His direct code contributions have faced pushback before as well. For instance, some of the comments on this change.

This vulture is conflicted. We deplore anti-vaxxer and other anti-science disinformation. Vaccines don't cause autism; they cause adults. Climate change is real, social justice is a good thing, and we are enthusiastically in favor of diversity, equity, and inclusion.

Thus we find it deeply ironic that at present, X11 is considerably better from an accessibility point of view than Wayland, which has a markedly poor track record here. As we have said recently, accessibility matters. Even if you're not disabled yet, you will be one day. Today, the desktops and apps that are most controllable by stodgy old-fashioned keyboard-centric user interfaces are ones like MATE and Xfce – which also means that it is the less-cool, older-style desktops that are more accessible. The environments driving Wayland adoption, such as GNOME and KDE Plasma, are still relatively weak in this area.

Wayland and the environments that natively support it boast some snazzy features such as adaptive sync and variable refresh rate support and High Dynamic Range displays, which we are sure are wonderful if you're a keen-eyed gamer in your 20s or 30s. This author is not, and despite 20:20 vision with glasses, is physically unable to perceive this sort of thing. That is one reason why we strongly prefer older desktops such as Xfce and Ubuntu's Unity, which also respects and follows the industry-standard user interface shunned by recent versions of GNOME and KDE.

As we have said before, we suspect this disconnect between younger, keener developers who don't know or care about late 20th century user interface standards or accessibility concerns, but who strongly want to junk what they perceive as legacy baggage, are behind the moves to deprecate and remove X11 – which is very much still going ahead.

The X.org X11 server itself began as a fork of XFree86, as The Register reported in 2004. Perhaps it's time it happened again. ®
 
Use the +Nigger license for extra effect.
I would've personally loved to see it but this needs to get popular and the world isn't beautiful enough for that to happen with a +Nigger license yet.

I would assume discerning 3rd party autists would comb the git to find vulnerabilities nullifying the backdoor theory, unless they have their closed retard license rendition of wayland?
The last attempt to backdoor systemd (that we know of) was only apparently after it was compiled with a bunch of other linked packages. Yes, more eyes more better but that's not a panacea. Even if those (multiple) implementations of the renderer are open using pozzed software in the first place is a bad idea.
 
Ubuntu has always been owned by Canonical. I remember that from like 2004-2005 when Ubuntu first started.
Maybe? I honestly don’t member but I do recall Ubuntu starting as a “true” FOSS alternative to RedHat. You very well could be right, I’m going off old memories.
 
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I'll put this here. The short answer is the fucking Mind Virus is so thick in Linux that this problem is happening.

FOR the record. I was a tech Reporter (late 90's -2000's). I did a report on Open SuSe back then. They really had a chance to make their product user friendly, but IMHO they went full on retard and lost their customer base.

Over the years what I saw was the sheer arrogance of Developers who had that "holier then Thou" mentality as they looked down @ window users.

IMHO this is one of the reasons why in 25+ years they have little usage for the general population. I've been messing around with Zorin OS and I kind of like it, but the concept of being Windows Friendly for the user should have started decades ago.

Ignorance... Arrogance... and leftists ideals has hamstrung Linux overall.

 
This vulture is conflicted. We deplore anti-vaxxer and other anti-science disinformation. Vaccines don't cause autism; they cause adults. Climate change is real, social justice is a good thing, and we are enthusiastically in favor of diversity, equity, and inclusion.
How can you type this paragraph and not realize you're in a cult?
 
I've been messing around with Zorin OS and I kind of like it, but the concept of being Windows Friendly for the user should have started decades ago.
Being "Windows friendly" in terms of look and feel really isn't that important. Look how quickly people adopted totally new computing paradigms in Android or iOS when there was a compelling reason to do so.

The much more pressing issue is that Windows runs all the software people want to use and Linux doesn't or at best does with much, much more hassle involved. The only compelling reason to change is some kind of philosophical convictions about your choice of operating system, which only faggy nerds have.
 
Its linux stuff. Wayland and X11 are display backends for various distros. Wayland is supposed to be the future. X11 has been around for a long ass time.
A very long-ass time. X11 itself is from 1987. The actual X system itself is from 1984.

The current release, X11R7.7 is from 2012.
 
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Wayland is a corporate-pushed replacement for X11. X11 is ages old and does have some dubious architecture but nothing that requires burning it all down
Wayland is still not capable of half the stuff it claims to solve, and basically exists to provide an interface for an application to draw pixels through a video card, while X11 is intended to provide more of shared primitives like clipboard, window management, widgets. X11 also intends to isolate applications, and limit them to their windows, leaving users in control, which gamedevs and other guislop makers HATE. One of Enrico's contributions which did not get accepted improved on isolation specifically.
X11 also originally was supposed to be able to work over network using a lightweight protocol. You still can run specific apps in a way their windows is showed to you but actually runs elsewhere. Nowadays this mostly does not work because every application is not content with using humble simple graphics and wants every dropdown to feature THE CURRENT DESIGN and make BING BING WAHOOS using your power hungry video card. Wayland does away with it and suggests you simply videostream your whole desktop.
Most corporate slop still does not support Wayland, and, like Steam, works on it through X11 emulation layer.
X11 is maintained by a bunch of redhat lazy asses who don't want to bother merging any code changes that would make x11 do what wayland is supposed to do, or even make timely releases, basically sabotaging its development, and of course, they are more concerned about trannies than code.
Enrico is a schizo but he sure can code, and figuring out X11 codebase is no easy feat.
 
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And XFree86 itself was a sort of fork. Generations of bad people with selfish and often evil motives have been involved in this stuff for 35+ years.

Inevitably the technical issues are window-dressing around a whole bunch of interpersonal issues among a bunch of bitchy gay man-boys.
Its very cyclical. Project with legitimately good intentions and dedicated developers springs up > gets EEE'd or otherwise infested by goons with ulterior motives > project rots from inside > motivated dev(s) fork to try and escape infestation > original project withers and dies in a manchild circlejerk cesspool > rinse and repeat. Just goes to show that accepting any sort of 'goodwill' from Red Hat et al. will inevitably end in disaster. The corporate infestation and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
 
I hope Mint and Debian can avoid the purity spiral and go with the new x11 fork for future releases, I'm not much of a power user but the few times I've encountered Wayland issues they've been terminal to whatever I was trying to accomplish, and ultimately solved by a reversion to x11.
I've got some really bad news for you, Debian has been like this for years, and with a whole lot more provable conspiracies to spy on and kill FOSS, sometimes taking the kill aspect literally
 
Fuck Wayland, I've always much preferred X11. Unsurprised that GNOME is dropping support for something good, it's a trannified piece of shit. Linux distro maintainers have the best opportunity ever presented in its history to get users on board because Microsoft is suffering peak corporate dysfunction, and their solution is to greet people looking to flee with combined corporate and troon dysfunction? That's pretty goddamn bleak.
 
The best part of open source is those trying to shove protocols / standards / systems down people's throat need to make them actually good before it happens. Microsoft could shove Metro / Windows 8 down all our throats. You can't really do anything except stay on a prior release.

In Linux-land, if Red Hat, IBM, (I guess those are one and the same now), Microsoft, etc. try to FORCE something to happen, it's just a fork away usually. People can bitch and whine, but for permissively licensed software, this is totally legal, and one of the effects of releasing software that people don't want to use. Sooner or later someone picks up the older branch and runs with it, and that's what we are seeing here.

I'm far from a X11 hacker, but I've heard it said that the design is really taken to the limit with extensions, and obviously there are some warts from it's 40(?) year history, but wow, talk about a vision of the future with the extensions. The modular design has allowed it to be taken far further than I believe the original dev team would ever have imagined.

My experience with X11 has been, I'm not that fussy, things work well enough. The few times I've had to try out Wayland, eventually some damn thing didn't work right and the devs seem to just blame the userbase on holding it wrong. I think the way to success is you have to meet users where they are, and I'm not sure that's what Wayland does. I think they just make some decisions, say YOU WILL USE IT THIS WAY and try to rule by fiat.

Probably my #1 reason to stay open source is not to have some vendor lead me around by the nose. I can keep using software that works fine for me and I can ignore software that I don't like for whatever reason.
 
What a gay article.

1. There's a piece of Linux that works OK but is "old".

2. People have been making a total replacement. This new project has always/recently been infected.

3. Maintainer of old piece says he'll make his own unpozzed replacement. He does NOT fork the now-gay project as Redot did, he starts with what he's been working on all these years.

4. Woke retards reeeeee anyway.

Is this basically correct?
 
What a gay article.

1. There's a piece of Linux that works OK but is "old".

2. People have been making a total replacement. This new project has always/recently been infected.

3. Maintainer of old piece says he'll make his own unpozzed replacement. He does NOT fork the now-gay project as Redot did, he starts with what he's been working on all these years.

4. Woke retards reeeeee anyway.

Is this basically correct?
Yes. The one point I would add is that the ""new"" project has been around since 2006, still only sorta works, and freedesktop (organization in charge of both) has been trying to kill the old one to force everyone to use the new trash.
 
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