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Red Bull give Perez new two-year deal until end of 2024

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Just two days after clinching his first Monaco Grand Prix victory, Sergio Perez has more to celebrate with confirmation Red Bull are retaining him alongside Max Verstappen until the end of 2024…

The Mexican joined Red Bull last season and took one victory – in Azerbaijan – as well as four further podiums on his way to fourth in the drivers’ championship.

He’s stepped it up a gear this season, with three second-place finishes to add to his Monaco win, and that leaves him third in the standings, just 15 points adrift of leader Verstappen.

On Tuesday, Red Bull confirmed they have handed Perez a two-year contract extension, with the Mexican signing the deal in Monaco, during the race weekend.

“Since joining Oracle Red Bull Racing, Checo has done a fantastic job,” said Red Bull boss Christian Horner. “Time and again he has proved himself to not only be a magnificent team player but as his level of comfort has grown he has become a real force to be reckoned with at the sharp end of the grid.

“This year he has taken another step and the gap to World Champion Max has closed significantly, evidenced by his superb pole position in Jeddah earlier this year and by his wonderful win in Monaco just last weekend.

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“For us, holding onto his pace, race craft and experience was a no-brainer and we are delighted that Checo will continue to race for the team until 2024. In partnership with Max we believe we have a driver pairing that can bring us the biggest prizes in F1.”

Perez added: “For me, this has been an incredible week, winning the Monaco Grand Prix is a dream for any driver and then to follow that with announcing I will continue with the Team until 2024 just makes me extremely happy.

“I am so proud to be a member of this Team and I feel completely at home here now. We are working very well together and my relationship with Max, on and off the track, is definitely helping drive us forward even more.

“We have built tremendous momentum as a Team and this season is showing that, I am excited to see where that can take us all in the future.”

The 2023 and 2024 campaigns will be Perez’s 12th and 13th seasons respectively in Formula 1.
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We'll get the Pyongyang Grand Prix complete with forced attendance, Kim replacing one of the drivers and winning (or else), Damon Hill telling us we can't judge them by Western standards and Hambone going "well I don't understand their politics so can't comment but the west is the real totalitarian states" before FOM would suffer another European track in their racing series.
 
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George is becoming the clear number one at Mercedes. I wonder if this means Hamilton will retire at the end of the season? I also saw someone saying the other day that next season, we might not have Nando, Seb, Lewis and dildo man on the grid. That's something to think about.
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Those aren't exactly green despite the labeling imho
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That's all it's about tho. Appearing green is better and cheaper than actually being green. Like how F1 are trying to stop fly-bys to get the CO2 off their books, but the display teams will just fly elsewheres, meaning the CO2 is still being produced.
 
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Lone Dogma said:
George is becoming the clear number one at Mercedes.
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Toto is still coping about Lewlew being just as fast as Russell but just unlucky.
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Lone Dogma said:
I wonder if this means Hamilton will retire at the end of the season?
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He's never going by choice. He knows full well the fashion set, the rappers and sportsball players, every single one of the 'cool kids" he desperately wants to be one of and his entire influence comes from being muh F1 negro. His entourage will evaporate the second he announces retirement.

Lone Dogma said:
I also saw someone saying the other day that next season, we might not have Nando, Seb, Lewis and dildo man on the grid.
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All possible but I think we'll have boolew and Nando next season. Seb is quationable with daddy stroll not coming through for the new era, his stated not just wanting to make up numbers and his stance on environmental stuff. Riccardo might not make it to end of the season with the way that relationship is publically deteriorating and the deal they signed with Aline that they could use Piastri as a driver this season if they wanted/needed to.

Yuuichirou Kumada said:
What I never understood was why they never built a proper track in Finland for a F1 race there.
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The money in Finland is rallying, if you're going to invest in building a race venue then rally is the way you make the money. There aren't any big car manufacturers there to build a test circuit that might be brought up to standards. That plus sparse population and difficulty of logistics makes it not overly desirable for F1.

In other news Toto has his man incharge now.
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Lone Dogma said:
George is becoming the clear number one at Mercedes. I wonder if this means Hamilton will retire at the end of the season? I also saw someone saying the other day that next season, we might not have Nando, Seb, Lewis and dildo man on the grid. That's something to think about.
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I would assume that Hamilton has a clause in his contract, that if he's not challenging for the title, he might leave the team at the end of the season (or even sooner).

This might be an option to either the team or Lewis and I would not be surprised to see it happen. Lewis can retire (or be forced to retire) that way if the relationship to Mercedes implodes - which isn't entirely unlikely. Russel will renew his contract for next season and he's in a very strong position to negotiate quite favorable terms.
Terms that might piss off Lewis quite a lot. Such as Mercedes allowing drivers to compete in the first few races and then backing the one that performed better to be the #1.
I guess even terms stating that Russel does not have to let Lewis pass if Lewis is behind Russel in the Team standings (something I would argue is in place even now) is enough to take its toll on King Louie.

At the moment, Toto's got Larbleton's back, but if this stretch of bad performance continues, chances do increase for Hamilton to say something so fundamentally stupid, that it pisses off the Mercedes high brass. Something like "My team is backing Russel cause he's white". That, I could see acting as a nuclear bomb in Hamilton's career.
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The money in Finland is rallying, if you're going to invest in building a race venue then rally is the way you make the money. There aren't any big car manufacturers there to build a test circuit that might be brought up to standards. That plus sparse population and difficulty of logistics makes it not overly desirable for F1.
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I would also suppose that Finnland is just a tiny bit too cold for a propper F1 track... A shame, I'd love to see a cool racetrack in a colder climate. (Pun not intended)
 
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I would also suppose that Finnland is just a tiny bit too cold for a propper F1 track
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It's not actually too bad if you're down south. Here's the climate graph for Helsinki
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Compared with Oxford (Silverstone area)
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As long as it was mid summer and in the southern parts it wouldn't be far out there. There has been a Swedish GP in the past, so up that way is not impossible. It just doesn't fit the sport anymore in terms of revenue (attendance and advertising) and logistics.

A winter GP with studded tyres would be amazing but going on they puss out if it's raining even though it's only just into extreme wet tyre conditions we'll never see it.
 
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RomanesEuntDomus said:
I would also suppose that Finnland is just a tiny bit too cold for a propper F1 track... A shame, I'd love to see a cool racetrack in a colder climate.
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Note my bolded portions!
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October 8, 1978 Canadian Gilles Villeneuve won his maiden Grand Prix in front of a home crowd here in Montreal.

I was there, frozen like a Popsicle like the other tens of thousands of race fans. I was sitting in the “gold” grandstands located right in front of the pits of the prestigious Scuderia Ferrari.

Heavy rain caused chaos during the two days of practice and qualifying. At the end of each day, the old garages, located at the far end of Ile Notre-Dame, were transformed into a big car wash as the F1 cars returned covered with mud!

We later found out that Villeneuve made a hazardous Michelin tire choice for the race. The cold temperature would give him reason if he could drive fast yet carefully without damaging them.

We all followed his progress during the race. We all cheered for Gilles when he passed Alan Jones (Williams) and then Jody Scheckter (Wolf), before race leader Jean-Pierre Jarier in the second Lotus dived into the pits with terminal rear brake problems. Villeneuve was leading the race!

From that moment on, no one was cold despite the very light snow that began to fall.

At the conclusion of his 70th lap, Gilles Villeneuve, in his Ferrari 312 T3, passed the finish line in triumph, saluted by Michel Hanson waving the checkered flag.

The Villeneuve legend had just begun.
 
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Coccxys said:
Riccardo might not make it to end of the season with the way that relationship is publically deteriorating and the deal they signed with Aline that they could use Piastri as a driver this season if they wanted/needed to.
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Food for thought regarding dildo man;
The IndyCar season ends the same day as Monza. For the last 2 or 3 Indy's, the person who finished 2nd that year, went on to win the championship. An IndyCar championship gives enough super license points for F1. Pato just signed a 3 year deal with McLaren and dildo man has made his love for America clear. There are 3 races (around 6 weeks) between Monza and Mexico to cross the t's and dot the i's, should Pato pull it off.

Come on Zak, it's a match and swap made in heaven.
 
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To think what could have been too.

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I haven't felt so bad watching a driver go out with a whimper since Massa. I can't feel bad for any former WDCs who go to a shit team and go from there.

The likes of Bottas who move to non-race winning teams and pull off the sorts of drives he is just build on their reputation.

Unfortunately Riccardo got stuck between Vettel and Vestappen Red Bull eras which made that a nonviable option but the other top teams were closed to him. He was going well at Renault but backroom politics put pay to his Renault dreams and sent him to where he is now, making himself look a bit amature and being destroyed by a very fast Norris. As good as he is these postRBR struggles have tarnished his reputation a bit.

Contrast that with Sainz who left the red bull program for much the same Vestappen shaped reason as Riccardo, right to Renault then McLaren coincidentally.
 
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To think what could have been too.

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I haven't felt so bad watching a driver go out with a whimper since Massa. I can't feel bad for any former WDCs who go to a shit team and go from there.

The likes of Bottas who move to non-race winning teams and pull off the sorts of drives he is just build on their reputation.

Unfortunately Riccardo got stuck between Vettel and Vestappen Red Bull eras which made that a nonviable option but the other top teams were closed to him. He was going well at Renault but backroom politics put pay to his Renault dreams and sent him to where he is now, making himself look a bit amature and being destroyed by a very fast Norris. As good as he is these postRBR struggles have tarnished his reputation a bit.

Contrast that with Sainz who left the red bull program for much the same Vestappen shaped reason as Riccardo, right to Renault then McLaren coincidentally.
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I have quite some respect for former WDC drivers that drive for less successful teams, at least they show some dedication to the sport that isn't tied to titles and success. Something I would praise Hamilton for, if he ate some humble cake and drove a shitbox for a few seasons out of love for the sport...

But people like Massa, Barichello or Ricciardo, who by all rights deserved and should have won a title, who struggle without ever being paid off... those I feel sad for.
 
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Toto is still coping about Lewlew being just as fast as Russell but just unlucky.
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He's never going by choice. He knows full well the fashion set, the rappers and sportsball players, every single one of the 'cool kids" he desperately wants to be one of and his entire influence comes from being muh F1 negro. His entourage will evaporate the second he announces retirement.


All possible but I think we'll have boolew and Nando next season. Seb is quationable with daddy stroll not coming through for the new era, his stated not just wanting to make up numbers and his stance on environmental stuff. Riccardo might not make it to end of the season with the way that relationship is publically deteriorating and the deal they signed with Aline that they could use Piastri as a driver this season if they wanted/needed to.


The money in Finland is rallying, if you're going to invest in building a race venue then rally is the way you make the money. There aren't any big car manufacturers there to build a test circuit that might be brought up to standards. That plus sparse population and difficulty of logistics makes it not overly desirable for F1.

In other news Toto has his man incharge now.
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How about the cope I've been seeing rattle around the web that Lewis is sandbagging to get data on the car in dirty air from Ross Brawn of all people? Explain to me why he wanted to retire the car in Monaco then.
 
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Coccxys said:
Unfortunately Riccardo got stuck between Vettel and Vestappen Red Bull eras which made that a nonviable option but the other top teams were closed to him. He was going well at Renault but backroom politics put pay to his Renault dreams and sent him to where he is now, making himself look a bit amature and being destroyed by a very fast Norris. As good as he is these postRBR struggles have tarnished his reputation a bit.

Contrast that with Sainz who left the red bull program for much the same Vestappen shaped reason as Riccardo, right to Renault then McLaren coincidentally.
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To be perfectly honest, Verstappen is only where he is because of Jos. There was no need to demote the frankly quicker Kvyat, especially after the stinker Max pulled in 2018. Red Bull should've retained Ricciardo, but guess who fucked that up...
*insert image of the paddock's favourite wife beater here*

Also, Sainz should've been in that seat, not Max.
 
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