Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?

Maybe the Scud should go create a B-team in Indycar and have that as a place to train their future crop of guys who actually know what they are doing.
 
Kyria the Great said:
That's an insult to Indycar as we don't need Italian Clowns, we have plenty of those in the Americas.
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Italian "Clowns" do pretty well in WEC. I think it's less of an Italian Clown problem and more of a management of the F1 side issue. There's a reason the guys in charge of the WEC program refuse to transfer to F1 despite Ferrari's attempts.
 
coletto in the f1 programme would be a fucking waste. they should be thinking on getting horner before alpine offers him a ownership position
 
One thing that I really wish was to go back to a time where F1 was "affordable" enough that any rich person delusional enough could enter the grid. Imagine the chaos we could have today with garbage and hopeless teams doing pre qualifying
 
Kyria the Great said:
One thing that I really wish was to go back to a time where F1 was "affordable" enough that any rich person delusional enough could enter the grid. Imagine the chaos we could have today with garbage and hopeless teams doing pre qualifying
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The dentist menace has moved to endurance racing, where they can pay 2 guys who know what they are doing to put them into a competetive position. Still, you'll likely see them as the first car out once the green drops because they forgot that they aren't the combination of Senna and Schumacher so the divebomb just ends with them in gravel.
 
VorpalAnvil- said:
We had that. It was the 2010 expansion teams.
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True, and prior to that we had a couple of well-funded yet catastrophically bad teams (not naming names, but Toyota know who they are).

I just think it's about time we saw some real clown shows again. Ferrari doesn't count, as they're just being Ferrari and they've always been Ferrari.
 
Pee Cola said:
True, and prior to that we had a couple of well-funded yet catastrophically bad teams (not naming names, but Toyota know who they are).

I just think it's about time we saw some real clown shows again. Ferrari doesn't count, as they're just being Ferrari and they've always been Ferrari.
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The Corporatism of the current regime/ownership has basically outlawed that. I think this is going to lead to a big fallout of the corporate teams somehow. They can't all be at the top, but none of them will accept that fact. F1 needs a big shakeup, but the very premise of corps running the show is just counter to the nature of the sport.

I think it's worth noting that the last time a new team entered the sport and had staying power, was 20ish years ago with Redbull taking over both Jag and Minardi.
 
VorpalAnvil- said:
The Corporatism of the current regime/ownership has basically outlawed that. I think this is going to lead to a big fallout of the corporate teams somehow. They can't all be at the top, but none of them will accept that fact. F1 needs a big shakeup, but the very premise of corps running the show is just counter to the nature of the sport.

I think it's worth noting that the last time a new team entered the sport and had staying power, was 20ish years ago with Redbull taking over both Jag and Minardi.
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I think it's almost half a billion you must pay out to the FIA to get on the grid. When I consider HAAS the poverty team yet needed so much money to get on the grid, it's staggering.
 
They quite clearly want the sport to be a manufacturer series where only big name car companies will have teams on the grid. It has been going that way for years. No more random rich people putting together a team in their garage at home.

Hence why Andretti was a no, but Cadillac is a yes. They want the names manufacturers and not some random guy's name there.

Soon Sauber will be no more leaving only Williams and Haas as teams not named for huge corps.
 
Coccxys said:
They quite clearly want the sport to be a manufacturer series where only big name car companies will have teams on the grid. It has been going that way for years. No more random rich people putting together a team in their garage at home.

Hence why Andretti was a no, but Cadillac is a yes. They want the names manufacturers and not some random guy's name there.

Soon Sauber will be no more leaving only Williams and Haas as teams not named for huge corps.
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The strange part is that Andretti is a massive organization to begin with doing Indycar and I believe NASCAR, I believe that politics with the FIA didn't want specifically Andretti on the grid. Honestly I hope after 2 years when the Cadillac power units are available that they change their name back to Andretti to spite the FIA.
 
Kyria the Great said:
The strange part is that Andretti is a massive organization to begin with doing Indycar and I believe NASCAR, I believe that politics with the FIA didn't want specifically Andretti on the grid. Honestly I hope after 2 years when the Cadillac power units are available that they change their name back to Andretti to spite the FIA.
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Andretti does Nascar+ Indycar + Formula E + V8 supercars + IMSA avec Cadillac .
 
Kyria the Great said:
Just adds to the Lunacy as I think they rejected because they didn't think the team would add sufficient value or some baloney excuse like that.
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They really were stretching the credibility of the process with it. That said, I would expect the next team to come from Asia as there inevitably will be some Chinese car company that looks at F1 and thinks they really want a slice of that pie, ideally estabishing a very credible effort into proving themselves.
 
The Grognard said:
They really were stretching the credibility of the process with it. That said, I would expect the next team to come from Asia as there inevitably will be some Chinese car company that looks at F1 and thinks they really want a slice of that pie, ideally estabishing a very credible effort into proving themselves.
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If a Chinese entry happens, id expect it 10 years from now when they're more established and perhaps quality improves.
 
"2030 Chinese Grand Prix cancelled due to BYDs formula 1 car's internal batteries spontaneously combusting, burning down the whole paddock - fire still raging, reaching surrounding cities, killing millions."

"Chinese Grand Prix contract extended until 2095."
 
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