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As gimmicky and painful to watch as NASCAR can be, it warms my clogged, strained fat American heart to know it can always be worse.
Formula 1 Discussion - And favourite driver?
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I've tried to get into NASCAR as a new fan recently. When I was a kid I liked it but didn't really get what was going on. I just thought Jeff Gordon was cool because he had flames on his car.
I tune in to the Coca Cola 600 and start watching and realize they have "Stage Wins" and my interest immediately sunk. NASCAR gotta get their shit together and just revamp the system to back how it was in the 80s and 90s.
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Just had to look that up since I hadn't heard of it before and couldn't come up with a possible meaning that wasn't retarded. Unfortunately one of those retarded possible meanings was entirely correct. Which moron thought that was a good idea? Just fucking race a number of laps and first across the line wins, how hard is it to not fuck that up?
Fingers crossed Liberty aren't watching NASCAR and formula E while nodding quietly thinking about the possibilities. Like "let's have a reddit AMA with the driver over the radio" or "vote for who gets DRS this lap" (I wouldn't put either past them). Though supper chatting gamer words over Lewlew's radio would be worth every penny.
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Looked it up, wasn't ... uh... disappointed (?) The way I see it, it cuts up races into chunks and essentially adds short breaks?
It's like modern racing is in a competition to come up with the most inane gimmick.
This stage-nonsense is like adding mandatory Safety-Car phases in F1 to bunch up the field and allow lapped cars to unlap.
With the nonsense of race stages and ... whatever the fuck FE is doing, I am actually quite happy now with Sprint Races and DRS tbh. Could be worse.
Also, I realized something about DRS: I criticized it for artificial overtaking, but I think that's not quite correct. Or rather, not correct all the time.
Simply put, DRS makes overtaking easier, but fortunately, what it doesn't do is making two cars overtake each other every lap. Ie: Car 1 overtakes car 2 thanks to DRS, next lap, they are so close that car 2 overtakes car 1, next lap, once more car 1 overtakes car 2 and so on. That would be entirely artificial overtaking.
What we usually see instead is one car passing another and then managing to gain distance. Sometimes, a car manages to counter the overtake, but ultimately, these knife-fights don't last long and one car manages to pull away. In a way, the DRS only allows easier passing, but usually, when a car isn't on equal footing (a lot of times even then) DRS isn't going to cut it. Like, a McLaren won't be overtaking a RB all of a sudden just due to DRS.
The problem with DRS is this: It means there is basically no point in overtaking anywhere else on track. DRS allows easy passing on straights, so unless the other car in front has a complete edge there and you enjoy an advantage in corners, no point in trying it elsewhere. It's rather bad for racing, cause instead of having an entire track for potential overtakes, it limits them to a few long straights, which is always less intense than an overtake in a corner.
It also leads to some fuckery, when cars deliberately allow another car to pass in front of the DRS sensor, so they can overtake them back more easily. I will admit, seeing this every now and then is kinda hilarious though, especially when it happens to Hamilton, who (I think) fell for this when battling with Magnussen. When you see one savvy driver outsmarting another one with such fuckery, it's at least something entertaining.
Kinda like faking preparations for a pitstop to make a driver of another team go for a pitstop themselves. Haven't seen that in a while, but I think Ferrari did this in the Schumacher days a few times. Mercedes as well.
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Imagine if they divided 24 Hours of Le Mans into four 6 hour races. It makes no damn sense.
Liberty is hit or miss with ideas. I like a lot of the stuff they've done, but I hate Sprints, and the new calender sucks. I would replace a lot of the new races with classic tracks like Sepang, Hockenheim, etc. The race in Miami and Vegas should be canned for Indianapolis imo. But I do think Liberty is smart enough to not fall down the NASCAR rabbit hole, the numbers tell a damning tale.
If I recall, NASCAR does have mandatory cautions lol
Yeah I would love to get rid of DRS too, but as Max against Georgie boy in Spain showed us that the cars still really aren't capable of passing each other without it on similar tires.
There's the debate of bringing back refueling so cars are lighter and can pass but during refueling most overtakes were done in the pits rather than on track.
I'm glad I'm not the one figuring this shit out tbh
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I think making cars lighter and smaller would be a decent idea. When you consider how humongous cars have become, no wonder passing is so hard, there's hardly any room on track.
The problem is, we want a lot of raw engine power, so we need a lot of room for the engine and a lot of space for crash structures. But maybe F1 can take the new aero concept and refine it in such a way that passing becomes easier. Maybe do something with the tyres, I dunno. When we look at F1's past, we can see that there were some major changes in how cars looked.
From front-engine steel cigars on wheels, they went to what we see today, I wouldn't mind a radically different car design if it means the car has an easier time passing another car.
But as we saw last season, we can have nailbiter races even with shitty aero, as long as engine power matches up nicely. Hope the playing field will become more level in that regard.
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My biggest gripe with DRS has always been the decimation of defensive drives. Those where the masters of the sport could stretch a set of tyres until they were practically worn through and manage to hold off the faster car behind that did pit, or drag a damaged/ailing car to the finish without going right to the back. Some of the greatest drives in the sport have been amazing masterclasses in defending your position. Though those probably wouldn't interest the idiots who think Checo's drive in Abu Dhabi was anything other than brilliant.
DRS is a product of Ferrari and Nando fans crying that he couldn't overtake a Russian in a slower car so lost the championship to Vettel.
DRS is a product of Ferrari and Nando fans crying that he couldn't overtake a Russian in a slower car so lost the championship to Vettel.
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As a long time RBR fan seeing the RBR mechanics cheer on Petrov at the post race weigh in was the cherry on top.
Sadly I think the cars are going to remain big because of hybrid and battery tech and safety. And F1 has made it very clear they want to stay as the "cutting edge of motorsport"
I've thought that Indycar should take the leap and go ask Judd, Cosworth, Chevy and Honda to make something incredible similar to the F1 V8s of the 2010s and use them with a redesigned car. Indycar has none of the strings attached to be the most advanced motorsport. If Indycar tomorrow came out with a blurry teaser of a car screaming around IMS with that V8 (or fuck it, V10) howl, people would be incredible hyped. The chassis for Indycars are already smaller and more nimble, I think if they went for big power they could do something really special.
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The problem with Indycar is still that it's a sport with a very tight budget compared to it's pre-split heyday when getting a hundred million from a tobacco company was a trivial phone call. Until that issue is solved, it's unlikely to see much development.
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Can you imagine how glorious it would be if some weapons manifacturer picked up Indycar?
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"And that's Graham Rahal in the Number 15 Lockheed Martin Predator Honda"
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the liveries would be insane
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the fastest car is a hybrid from porsche. cant beat the 919 on the only track that matters.
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Likewise, only in my case it's Australia and Supercars. Whilst SC is a shadow of its former self and will never be as great as it was during the V8 era from the mid '90s through early '10s, even current year SC is way better than FE will ever hope to be.
We really need to go back to how racing was in the '90s. Not necessarily what NASCAR or V8SC was doing, though. I'm thinking BTCC. The cars were only 2-litre four pots, but the drivers took no prisoners, leading to some highly entertaining racing.
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We briefly had Super Touring as a support series in the US for CART. It was some good racing. And of course the main show of Late-90s CART was amazingly fucking good.
Speaking of that, I was at the Detroit GP this weekend. I wish I'd been faster with the camera, I got to see Grosjean just after he got released from medical for his qualifying crash, gunning it on his escooter. Rageface was off the fucking charts.
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The best time for touring cars was when people turned up in original minis to take on the big V8s. They got decimated down the straights but could carry so much more speed in the corners so it was a constant game of overtake and defend for both.
Unfortunately as is often the case someone saw that was a popular time for the sport and they decided that setting up a series just for minis would be amazing, so they did. I haven't watched the mini racing (especially since they now use the abomination that is the BMW "mini") but it took something away from touring cars.
Unfortunately as is often the case someone saw that was a popular time for the sport and they decided that setting up a series just for minis would be amazing, so they did. I haven't watched the mini racing (especially since they now use the abomination that is the BMW "mini") but it took something away from touring cars.
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ITS THAT TIME OF YEAR AGAIN
THE 2022 24 HOURS OF LE MANS
spotters-guide: spotters.guide or the attached pdf
Like the ameritard i am, im rooting for Glickenhause in hypercar, Penske in LMP2, and Corvette in GTEpro.
In other news exactly 1 LMP2 team is not running the Oreca-07, CD Sport, they are instead running the Ligier.
THE 2022 24 HOURS OF LE MANS
spotters-guide: spotters.guide or the attached pdf
Like the ameritard i am, im rooting for Glickenhause in hypercar, Penske in LMP2, and Corvette in GTEpro.
In other news exactly 1 LMP2 team is not running the Oreca-07, CD Sport, they are instead running the Ligier.
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Just caught up on last almost week's worth of posts, never got notifications of activity, thought thread was quiet.
Something not mentioned is the new Apple film about F1. Hamilton is a co-producer. Oh, and of course will appear in it too. And get this, Brad Pitt will be the star of the movie. As a driver. A 58 year old man will be a driver. It will be interesting to see how this movie turns out. A Frankenheimer/Grand Prix it will NOT be.
I know there were a few recent comments concerning driver lineups and if Lewis left what would he do. From all accounts I think he is focused on Hollywood/Entertainment industry. Whatever the case, as long as he is gone completely from F1, that's all that matters.
Apple Studios has announced it has acquired the rights to a Formula 1 film starring Brad Pitt and produced by Lewis Hamilton.
The film’s screenplay is being written by Ehren Kruger and the feature will be directed by Joseph Kosinski. The pair previously worked together in the same roles on Top Gun: Maverick, which is currently playing in cinemas.
Apple’s as-yet-untitled Formula 1 film will star 58-year-old Bitt as an older driver who comes out of retirement to join a rookie team mate and take on the series’ top competitors.
The film will be produced by Hamilton, Pitt’s Plan B Entertainment company (which previously created World War Z), Jerry Bruckheimer and Chad Oman (who also worked on Top Gun: Maverick, as well as the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise).
It remains to be seen whether the film will include an appearance by seven-times F1 champion Hamilton, who has previously made cameo appearances and voice acting roles in films including Cars 2, Cars 3 and Zoolander 2, as well as hit game Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.
Hamilton was also executive producer on the 2018 documentary film The Game Changers, about a Ultimate Fighting Championship competitor’s switch to vegan protein. The new Apple Original Films project will be his first full production credit.
Pitt has previously shown a strong interest in motorsport including waving the start flag at the 2016 running of the 24 Hours of Le Mans. He had previously worked for several years on a biopic about the Le Mans racer and engineer Caroll Shelby, also with Kosinski, which eventually became the Matt Damon-fronted Ford vs Ferrari (aka Le Mans ’66).
Screenwriter Kruger, in addition to having worked on Top Gun: Maverick, is best known for writing three of the Transformers franchise films, the sequels Revenge Of the Fallen, Dark of the Moon and Age of Extinction.
Apple Studios is the production house for AppleTV+ original productions. It is also working with Pitt and George Clooney on another original film, as yet untitled.
If he wasn't happily married with a few children, the below cap of a tweet would be a shocking coming out. I wonder if there have ever been any F1 drivers who were (or are) gay. I know there was one or two gay drivers in NASCAR many years ago (pretty sure they weren't out as gay either). I also think there is a tranny driver somewhere currently competing.
Anyway, good on Seb to at least be real and not afraid to show support for what he believes in. Although I enjoyed his first WDC, when he started dominating I was kind of "pissed" at him similar to how I was when Schumi and Hambone seemed to always win. But now, I'd be happy if he had 8 WDCs to his name! While he was a little hotheaded in his early career at times and a bit petulant, he has matured into a fine human being I think. You could see him running for some political office in later years as he seems passionate about subjects that, if changes were made, would improve the quality of life for his fellow man.
Something not mentioned is the new Apple film about F1. Hamilton is a co-producer. Oh, and of course will appear in it too. And get this, Brad Pitt will be the star of the movie. As a driver. A 58 year old man will be a driver. It will be interesting to see how this movie turns out. A Frankenheimer/Grand Prix it will NOT be.
I know there were a few recent comments concerning driver lineups and if Lewis left what would he do. From all accounts I think he is focused on Hollywood/Entertainment industry. Whatever the case, as long as he is gone completely from F1, that's all that matters.
Apple confirms Brad Pitt to star as driver in new F1 film produced by Hamilton
Posted on 8th June 2022, 11:42 | Written by Hazel SouthwellApple Studios has announced it has acquired the rights to a Formula 1 film starring Brad Pitt and produced by Lewis Hamilton.
The film’s screenplay is being written by Ehren Kruger and the feature will be directed by Joseph Kosinski. The pair previously worked together in the same roles on Top Gun: Maverick, which is currently playing in cinemas.
Apple’s as-yet-untitled Formula 1 film will star 58-year-old Bitt as an older driver who comes out of retirement to join a rookie team mate and take on the series’ top competitors.
The film will be produced by Hamilton, Pitt’s Plan B Entertainment company (which previously created World War Z), Jerry Bruckheimer and Chad Oman (who also worked on Top Gun: Maverick, as well as the Pirates of the Caribbean franchise).
It remains to be seen whether the film will include an appearance by seven-times F1 champion Hamilton, who has previously made cameo appearances and voice acting roles in films including Cars 2, Cars 3 and Zoolander 2, as well as hit game Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare.
Hamilton was also executive producer on the 2018 documentary film The Game Changers, about a Ultimate Fighting Championship competitor’s switch to vegan protein. The new Apple Original Films project will be his first full production credit.
Pitt has previously shown a strong interest in motorsport including waving the start flag at the 2016 running of the 24 Hours of Le Mans. He had previously worked for several years on a biopic about the Le Mans racer and engineer Caroll Shelby, also with Kosinski, which eventually became the Matt Damon-fronted Ford vs Ferrari (aka Le Mans ’66).
Screenwriter Kruger, in addition to having worked on Top Gun: Maverick, is best known for writing three of the Transformers franchise films, the sequels Revenge Of the Fallen, Dark of the Moon and Age of Extinction.
Apple Studios is the production house for AppleTV+ original productions. It is also working with Pitt and George Clooney on another original film, as yet untitled.
If he wasn't happily married with a few children, the below cap of a tweet would be a shocking coming out. I wonder if there have ever been any F1 drivers who were (or are) gay. I know there was one or two gay drivers in NASCAR many years ago (pretty sure they weren't out as gay either). I also think there is a tranny driver somewhere currently competing.
Anyway, good on Seb to at least be real and not afraid to show support for what he believes in. Although I enjoyed his first WDC, when he started dominating I was kind of "pissed" at him similar to how I was when Schumi and Hambone seemed to always win. But now, I'd be happy if he had 8 WDCs to his name! While he was a little hotheaded in his early career at times and a bit petulant, he has matured into a fine human being I think. You could see him running for some political office in later years as he seems passionate about subjects that, if changes were made, would improve the quality of life for his fellow man.
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Is it too much to ask for a Rush sort-of-sequel focused on Senna and Prost? You bet it would make a billion dollars at the box office thanks to Brazilian turnout. You can even make Senna act like an autistic faggot, we won't care about it one bit - Seeing the McLaren MP4s zooming around the tracks on IMAX will make this nation forget its woes and have a collective orgasm.
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Hamilton would most definitely not date to do shot like that because while he wants to be a loud "ally" he sure as shot doesn't want to take the risk of being mistaken for a gay and be shunned by all the blacks he tries to suck up to that have a less than stellar opinion of teh gays.