Funimation Audio Leaks - Sacred Ointment memes for degenerate teens

[CumDumpster]

Toei and TFS will not ever work together well, because Toei is stupid and doesn't understand that DBZA isn't harmful to them. That's just a fact of life. In the end, likely TFS will continue to exist in some form even if Funimation crumbles. They'll just have to go further into the recesses of the internet to do it, like most fan parodies. Their patreon will be hit hard, if not outright destroyed, and their VA work prospects will likely dry up, which will make the Buu sag or other abridged series less likely (as they won't have time + funds to do it properly anymore), but existing DBZA episodes will continue to exist, because this is the internet.

I don't understand the raw hatred some posters have for TFS, and it makes me conclude they're just not very familiar with fandom circles and products pre-WW, but TFS and Toei making nice is not going to happen. Toei is stubborn and very much influenced by the panic Japanese companies hold for the concept of having their profits 'stolen', so expecting someone to sit them down and explain why they're making a mountain feud out of nothing is foolishly optimistic.

My only guess on why the Japanese act like this is because free online parodies are not just "lost income" in their eyes (every industry is guilty of the "sale attraction by any means" mindset, except food and furniture) and the fact that they see parodies or comedic critique as "disgraceful".
Closest equivalent I can think of is the Gamera (Series 0 [WUCW-TV run] eps 5-8 & Series 3 eps 2, 4, 8, 12, 16) and Godzilla (Series 2 eps 12-13) episodes of "Mystery Science Theater 3000". There's a reason those only got put out onto video once or twice.

I'd imagine they'd go with making it sub only; less costly on money and time.
Or they could just replace the English voices with Microsoft text to speech kind of stuff.
Unlikely, but it's funny to think about.

I can just imagine Microsoft Sam voicing Goku now......

 

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My only guess on why the Japanese act like this is because free online parodies are not just "lost income" in their eyes (every industry is guilty of the "sale attraction by any means" mindset, except food and furniture) and the fact that they see parodies or comedic critique as "disgraceful".
Closest equivalent I can think of is the Gamera (Series 0 [WUCW-TV run] eps 5-8 & Series 3 eps 2, 4, 8, 12, 16) and Godzilla (Series 2 eps 12-13) episodes of "Mystery Science Theater 3000". There's a reason those only got put out onto video once or twice.

Japan's term for a video parody is MAD, IIRC.

Search for ドラゴンボール MAD gets us...

MSK ドラゴンボール×一騎当千【MAD/AMV】

MSKのMADです清き一票を! 他の方々の神MADはコチラ！ 打倒睡魔さん https://youtu.be/fG4Z9a10fJ8 ユルさん https://youtu.be/4yE7aeDq-DE 大鉄火団団長オルガスマッシュさん https://youtu.be/VYmG6oMk5Vw ゆっくりブラックさん...

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And a whole playlist of nuked ones:

ドラゴンボール MAD - YouTube

www.youtube.com

Nico Nico probably would have more. For example:

もしもベジータがいい奴だったら（前編）

もしもベジータがいい奴だったら（前編） [アニメ] 地獄に行ってもこーんなさわやかなベジータは見られんぞ♪いい奴だけどちょっとズレた人になっていま...

www.nicovideo.jp

Seems to be under the "ドラゴンボール 腹筋崩壊" (Dragonball Muscle Collapse) tag.

人気の「ドラゴンボール 腹筋崩壊」動画 124本 - ニコニコ動画

「ドラゴンボール 腹筋崩壊」動画 124本「もしもブロリーがリングフィットアドベンチャーをしたら」「ルパン三世のMAD色々作ってみた・Ⅱ」「ブロリー映画を左右対称にしてみたpart4」

www.nicovideo.jp

Muscle Collapse seems to be the Japanese equivalent of "my sides are in orbit":

腹筋崩壊とは (アーオナカイタイとは) [単語記事] - ニコニコ大百科

腹筋崩壊とは、動画に付けられるタグの一つ。 概要 面白い動画に対しコメントで書かれたり、タグとして付けられる単語である。 その汎用性から様々な派生タグが存在する。→腹筋崩壊関連タグ ほぼ同...

dic.nicovideo.jp

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

I can just imagine Microsoft Sam voicing Goku now......

So as he first going SS3 rather then saying the normal line would he say.

"Here Comes Another Chinese Earthquake EBRBRBRBRBRBRBR..."

And would vegeta be renamed to "JOHN MADDEN"?

 

[Rotollo]

I can just imagine Microsoft Sam voicing Goku now......

staring jordan peterson bot as freeza

 

[babaGAReeb]

the gohan sex one is disturbing

wtf was going through her head when she made it

 

[indianshedevil]

the gohan sex one is disturbing

wtf was going through her head when she made it

I don't really wanna know. It's just disgusting.

 

[Rotollo]

the gohan sex one is disturbing

wtf was going through her head when she made it

1. Sabat somehow got her to say it for a bonus to keep in his blackmail/hentai collection
or
2. she's a creepy weirdo who wants to fuck kids

 

[ChucklesTheJester]

the gohan sex one is disturbing

wtf was going through her head when she made it

Likely she messed up a line and thought the edgy humor was funny and ran with it as a joke. Which it was the first time pretty funny, and then stopped being funny after the 5th time I heared it auto played on twitter that day.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

I wonder this is very weird? But are The One Piece Podcast also protected by Funimation or are moles for them?

Funny if true, especially since their editor-in-chief, Kelly Gilbride, got doxed by the ESA leak.

 

[babaGAReeb]

1. Sabat somehow got her to say it for a bonus to keep in his blackmail/hentai collection
or
2. she's a creepy weirdo who wants to fuck kids

i just hope she had adult gohan in mind and not child gohan

 

[indianshedevil]

Sabat somehow got her to say it for a bonus to keep in his blackmail/hentai collection

I bet he's also hiding an account for any porn site like PornHub or X-Tube from everybody.

 

[Confused Doggo]

You can thank Kaiser for that. He coaches MasakoX to sound more like the JP version. MasakoX is capable of giving a Sean-esque performance, Kaiser just doesn't want that.

That's... rather strange for him to prioritize that. I mean, not every character sounds like the original (they don't exactly need to, but it helps) but you want the MAIN CHARACTER to NOT sound like the English voice? Especially when they were first starting the series.

 

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I'd imagine they'd go with making it sub only; less costly on money and time.
Or they could just replace the English voices with Microsoft text to speech kind of stuff.
Unlikely, but it's funny to think about.

I can't wait to hear notorious nigger killer Moonman in my Chinese cartoons.

 

[Confused Doggo]

yet Vic played him in his web series plus looks more like Kirk than Sean ever will LOL

Shatner thinks the same.
Vic looking like a younger Kirk, I mean.

 

[Allanon]

My only guess on why the Japanese act like this is because free online parodies are not just "lost income" in their eyes (every industry is guilty of the "sale attraction by any means" mindset, except food and furniture) and the fact that they see parodies or comedic critique as "disgraceful".
Closest equivalent I can think of is the Gamera (Series 0 [WUCW-TV run] eps 5-8 & Series 3 eps 2, 4, 8, 12, 16) and Godzilla (Series 2 eps 12-13) episodes of "Mystery Science Theater 3000". There's a reason those only got put out onto video once or twice.

I don't fully understand their reasoning, but I do know that they're unbelievably paranoid about it, and haven't learned the DRM lessons that western companies have. I suspect that doujin is something they look the other way about simply because they always have done so, and so it's tradition to do so. People misinterpret it to be an understanding of how it bolsters fan support, but their behavior elsewhere shows otherwise. Toei gets Big Mad about DBZA, despite much of the time they were out for blood it was very much a parody of an old property that hadn't been running for like a decade (DBZA predates Kai). I've also seen (Japanese) indie creators vehemently defend ridiculous levels of DRM protection on games that aren't even worth stealing because someone told them that they'd lose tons of money to pirates if they didn't.

Also the whole 'malware that shames you on social media if you trip the DRM' thing their games occasionally have, compared to the game just not functioning properly/at all.

the gohan sex one is disturbing

wtf was going through her head when she made it

I am pretty confident what happened is that she flubbed her line and made a noise that sounded kind of sexual, so she rolled with it for a few seconds and turned it into a joke about Gohan. Hers is one that sounds the most like a blooper that happened to be inappropriate

That's... rather strange for him to prioritize that. I mean, not every character sounds like the original (they don't exactly need to, but it helps) but you want the MAIN CHARACTER to NOT sound like the English voice? Especially when they were first starting the series.

Kaiser's reasoning (which all of TFS endorses, but I think evidence points to it just being him convincing them all) is that Goku is meant to be an 'innocent angel' kind of character. Part of that is having a child-like voice, conveniently akin to how Masako voices him in JP. It's a similar reason to why Krillin's voice isn't faithful to Sonny's, even though Lani can do it perfectly well. They wanted Goku's voice to match the personality they were going for with him.

But that's really just Kaiser getting wordy to excuse the fact that he's a weeb who thinks the sub is better than the dub, IMO.

 

[Confused Doggo]

Funnily enough I am in their discord server I can have a snoop round to see if any of this is true for anyone's behalf. that won't take too long~

edit: your rumours has been confirme

Not to mention, when you become a VA in japan, you're basically that VA for fucking life and beyond, with roles usually only being replaced under death or circumstances where they absolutely cannot do the voice. I wouldn't say them getting Vic back for Broly was arbitrary, especially for a company like Toei, who are as tight-fisted, traditionalist and conservative as they come in that market.

I.E, Igor from Persona. His japanese VA died a while back, and they've mostly just been using sound clips. His being an imposter in P5 is why he was suddenly "revoiced", but as soon as the real Igor came back, it was reused clips again.

Same thing with Revolver Ocelot in Metal Gear Solid 2: Ocelot's Japanese voice actor had died, so Kojima had Ocelot get possessed by Liquid through his arm to deal with that, thus making "Liquid Ocelot".

 

[CumDumpster]

I don't fully understand their reasoning, but I do know that they're unbelievably paranoid about it, and haven't learned the DRM lessons that western companies have. I suspect that doujin is something they look the other way about simply because they always have done so, and so it's tradition to do so. People misinterpret it to be an understanding of how it bolsters fan support, but their behavior elsewhere shows otherwise. Toei gets Big Mad about DBZA, despite much of the time they were out for blood it was very much a parody of an old property that hadn't been running for like a decade (DBZA predates Kai). I've also seen (Japanese) indie creators vehemently defend ridiculous levels of DRM protection on games that aren't even worth stealing because someone told them that they'd lose tons of money to pirates if they didn't.

Also the whole 'malware that shames you on social media if you trip the DRM' thing their games occasionally have, compared to the game just not functioning properly/at all.

On one side, you have "whales" of the entertainment industry that share duplicated files of media with each other, then you have people like Bill Baggs (I don't feel it appropriate to go over the history of "Bill & Ben Video" and their various "not Doctor Who" movies and audio dramas again) on the other end. The westerners know that fighting pirates is a losing war without making the government more draconian than it is (There's one reason that Hollywood would want the constitution gone).
As for the Japanese indie developers, there hasn't been a "failure" of an indie game in Japan just yet, while the western hemisphere has a "indie" clique entirely focused on churning flops. I bet this is because the install base for computers in Japan is a minority as mobile phones are hot commodities and "game palaces" are still the "place" for the more beefier games.

 

[AriZona_LaD]

Toei is stupid and doesn't understand that DBZA isn't harmful to them.

Nobody likes their property being taken. Trademarks are things you have to defend. Toei isn't stupid. Letting people run around using your brand for profit or otherwise can be harmful to your ownership of said brand.

 

[KF_jafo]

I'm not sure she would take it. The biggest hang ups in any of the defendants settling is that as part of a settlement that Ty and Vic find acceptable they would: 1) have to turn on their colleagues and "friends", and 2) have to admit that they themselves were awful people who lied about Vic, committed tortuous inference, possibly committed perjury in the process, etc. In short, the key to getting out of this cheaply is to backstab a bunch of your existing relationships, while admitting to being a horrible person. I'm skeptical that any of them feel financially desperate enough to take that out.

Getting your lawyer to draft a, "Mistakes were made" is significantly cheaper option. I don't know if Marchi can afford to draw this out like Wife-Beater and Enabler can. I get the impression Wife-Beater has deeper pockets based on the industry he's in. I could be wrong.

 

[Superman93]

Getting your lawyer to draft a, "Mistakes were made" is significantly cheaper option. I don't know if Marchi can afford to draw this out like Wife-Beater and Enabler can. I get the impression Wife-Beater has deeper pockets based on the industry he's in. I could be wrong.

They can always have marsgurl do a gofuckme for them