Game of Thrones Thread

There's no justification for Dany going mad.
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She was brutal towards her enemies, but she was always shown to care about innocent civilians. She burned soldiers who wouldn't bow, but they were enemy combatants. There is no precedent in her arc for what she did. And the fact that she was brutal towards nobility does not equate to being brutal towards women and children,

There's a lot missing and there's a very good fan theory of why it happens(or will happen in the books).
There's a character they never introduced in the show, young Griff, he turns out to be a very important character, another of the Targeryan children and true heir to the throne. He would have been the one marching into King's Landing and kicking Cersei into a cell, the population of King's Landing would love him because he's a good and benelovent dude that starts to make things right and of course anyone taking over after Cersei is looked at favorably. He's very popular and the people in King's Landing are devoted to their new king.

Like you say, Dany is shown to care about innocent civilians. As long they love and worship her, they also needs to be loyal to her. The importance of loyalty have come up plenty of times in the show.

So her marching on King's Landing isn't met with the same heroic and ecstatic "breaker of chains, dragon mom" as usual. In fact, people don't want her and she's not needed. She's never even lived in the Seven Kingdoms and is a total outsider. If she kicks the other Targeryan from the throne, as is her perceived right and desire despite him having a better claim, people just won't like it and by extension her. They won't love her or follow her every word. They're obviously not loyal to her. There's a tried and true solution for that: burnination, it's the only way she can hold the throne.
 
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I'm honestly hoping GRRM goes hard and kills Dany off before she ever sets foot in the crownlands.

He should kill off Tyrion and Arya immediately, as a giant "fuck you" to D&D.
Screw over their asinine plot as much as possible.

Actually, since "for the Watch" already happened in the books, how about starting the next one with the Night's Watch burning Jon Snow's body?
And now his Watch is ended. How do you like your subverted expectations now?
 
No I leave Tyrion in that weird circus thing he's stuck in. Arya should get through all of the sea list people on her list then she gets gregor'd.

Let Jon Snow come back but now he's a true believer like Beric, but even more evangelical.

Bran can turn into a tree and fucks off

The Queen of thorns takes the iron throne and menes everyone into submission
 
So that documentary about making the last episode aired tonight. Anyone watch it?
 
So that documentary about making the last episode aired tonight. Anyone watch it?
Tuned out about halfway through; will probably get back to it. Hilariously, did not see D. or D. on-screen, which are the two for whom I reserve most of my ire. Saw the actor for Varys at the table read for the last season; the look of disbelief when he closed the script and tossed it to the table was palpable.

The documentary is kind of all over the place; it's hard to judge the chronology of what episode they're filming and how long they have until the season premiere. I will say though, it is touching to see all the people who worked on this in some small capacity and how proud they look to be a part of it. The logistics coordinators, the lady at the on-set food truck. Even the security guards outside the studio lot said they were proud to be a part of it. The highlight for me was the fight choreographer talking about being a hoodlum kid in Czechoslovakia, how he worked as a stunt man for over 30 years, and his work paid off when he was asked to be The Night King in episode 3; that was a nice inclusion.
 
The highlight for me was the fight choreographer talking about being a hoodlum kid in Czechoslovakia, how he worked as a stunt man for over 30 years, and his work paid off when he was asked to be The Night King in episode 3; that was a nice inclusion.
Only for all that work to be flushed down the train by this:
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He should kill off Tyrion and Arya immediately, as a giant "fuck you" to D&D.
Screw over their asinine plot as much as possible.

Actually, since "for the Watch" already happened in the books, how about starting the next one with the Night's Watch burning Jon Snow's body?
And now his Watch is ended. How do you like your subverted expectations now?
Best: go full on Westworld. Reveal that Tyrion and Arya exist in separate timelines. Tyrion is actually Arya wearing his face the entire time. Have fun resolving that kink.
 
Tuned out about halfway through; will probably get back to it. Hilariously, did not see D. or D. on-screen, which are the two for whom I reserve most of my ire. Saw the actor for Varys at the table read for the last season; the look of disbelief when he closed the script and tossed it to the table was palpable.

The documentary is kind of all over the place; it's hard to judge the chronology of what episode they're filming and how long they have until the season premiere. I will say though, it is touching to see all the people who worked on this in some small capacity and how proud they look to be a part of it. The logistics coordinators, the lady at the on-set food truck. Even the security guards outside the studio lot said they were proud to be a part of it. The highlight for me was the fight choreographer talking about being a hoodlum kid in Czechoslovakia, how he worked as a stunt man for over 30 years, and his work paid off when he was asked to be The Night King in episode 3; that was a nice inclusion.
It is nice that almost everyone I’ve seen mad about the last season fully acknowledge that it’s no one’s fault but the writers and everyone else(actors, set designers, ect) did an amazing job.

Except whoever was supposed to look for water bottles and coffee cups.
 
Probably. They also forgot that because of said butterfly and it killing anyone not born there, they're a legit hippie colony so what use they'll find for fantasy Spartan eunuchs I have no idea.
Since Naath is an easy target for slavers, I assumed the Unsullied will go there to ward off future slaver raids.
 
Tuned out about halfway through; will probably get back to it. Hilariously, did not see D. or D. on-screen, which are the two for whom I reserve most of my ire. Saw the actor for Varys at the table read for the last season; the look of disbelief when he closed the script and tossed it to the table was palpable.

The video's been making the rounds. Its brutal to watch.

 
I've had a week to think about it and honestly, I don't think Season 8 is as bad as people make it out to be. That said, the show was best when both halves of the plot were separated by the narrow sea. Season 7 and 8 lost that dynamic and suffered for it. I think both seasons were rushed and could have used the full season order but it was to the point no ending was going to please everyone. People who wanted a happy ending hated Daeny's not so sudden if you go back and rewatch heel turn and others would have hated it if had a typical Hollywood ending. That's not Game of Thrones. I do feel the ending was very true to the series. Everyone's heard of the saying too big to fail but I think GoT was too big to succeed. The show was crushed under the weight of expectations like Oberyn at the hands of The Mountain. I do think people will look back on it more kindly in time or at least less negatively.

TL;DR: Hodor.
 
I just realized that Greyworm is leading the Unsullied to death...
Naath has disease called the "Butterfly Fever." Upon contact, the foreigners begin to experience painful spasms then their flesh will slough from their bones.

I was going to joke about how it probably only affects white people, but actually it raises the question of how Missandei or anyone else from Naath managed to be enslaved if butterfly fever gooifies anyone that comes to the island.

I always thought the clusterfuck what was the end of The Dark Tower stemmed from a combination of Steve-O panicking he'd die before he finished it thanks to the near-fatal van accident, and his inability (or refusal) to recognize that some of the crap he dreamed up when he was 19 and high on mescaline maybe wasn't such a great idea after all.

So, you're saying we need to almost run GRRM over with a truck to convince him to crank out the last two books before he kicks it?
 
I was going to joke about how it probably only affects white people, but actually it raises the question of how Missandei or anyone else from Naath managed to be enslaved if butterfly fever gooifies anyone that comes to the island.
According to the ASOIAF wiki, "However, corsairs long ago learned that the chances of dying of butterfly fever are low as long as they do not remain on the islands for more than a few hours, and lower still if they land at night, as the butterflies that carry it are day creatures. Thus, slavers often attack Naath during the dark of night, forcing the Naathi inland."
 
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According to the ASOIAF wiki, "However, corsairs long ago learned that the chances of dying of butterfly fever are low as long as they do not remain on the islands for more than a few hours, and lower still if they land at night, as the butterflies that carry it are day creatures. Thus, slavers often attack Naath during the dark of night, forcing the Naathi inland."

Yeah, it says they abandoned the coast and moved inland to the hills and forests, so I'm still pretty baffled how Missandei was managed to be taken without it being a massive coincidence that she just happened to be near the coast, at night, (as a little girl no less, which meant some dumb ass parent took her there) when a slaver ship was passing.
 
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