Game of Thrones Thread

So, right after the Night King raises the dead again and Dany comes to save Jon's ass, why in the name of all things holy did she just sit her dragon down and stare at Jon's retreating figure stupidly for so long? Why did she land at all? She just needed to burn away the wights surrounding Jon, there was no need for her to land. The fucking wights then ofc come and start climbing on her dragon and I was just holding my head, knowing that my boy Jorah (F) would die saving this literal mouthbreathing brainlet.
 
HBO should have seized the rights to Dragon Riders of Pern, real lost opportunity. Especially since they can properly show dragons for TV shows now.
Can they? I swear this seasons dragon CG has been some of the worst (maybe it's because they get more screentime...) Those dragon riding sequences... OOF.
Sam's arrogant insistance on being on the frontline, Christ. He admitted a bunch of times that he's not a fighter
Thought Edd's scoff and 'you took your time' was going to be along the lines of 'oh fuck, why'd you choose to stand next to me... go find somewhere else'.
 
From the closing shots it looked like everyone who wasn't a named character died, yet in the preview for the next episode they seem to have an army again? I thought one of the dragons was killed, but it shows a shot of 2 of them again. After all that buildup, I can't help but feel the Night King got the Boba Fett treatment as well.
 
From the closing shots it looked like everyone who wasn't a named character died, yet in the preview for the next episode they seem to have an army again? I thought one of the dragons was killed, but it shows a shot of 2 of them again. After all that buildup, I can't help but feel the Night King got the Boba Fett treatment as well.

Maybe House Glover is trying to weasel their way in again.
 
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Are you seriously thinking in-universe? I don't watch the show (I'm only in the thread because every local streaming service recognized a one in a lifetime chance to grab new subscribers and spammed ads offline), but I looked the list of deaths upthread and I don't see how this puddle of piss is in any way immersive.


I read the first and half the second book during night shifts in a bank's custserv, saw where it was going character-wise early on and persevered mostly because the bank clamped down on internet use and the book wasn't bad enough to risk downloading something better. Martin writes good prose - not stellar, but certainly good. (Then I graduated.)

The TV show promised blood and guts, what I saw was an indistinguishable collection of soyfaces. Half an episode was enough.

I grew up reading (children's) fairytales and historical fiction, the two genres where you know how it's gonna end from page 1. Didn't watch much tv, because tv was worse. Book adaptations in particular sought to hammer in every Very Important Lesson implied by the books plot in direct fourth-wall-breaking speech, and adult theater actors hamming it up, walking all over the child actors and making a drunken farce out of what was meant to be a serious story (for children).

The first fantasy book I read was a revelation. Get this, one of the three protagonists, an impoverished young man with great aspirations, kind, honorable, keenly aware of the injustice in the world, sets out to fight Ultimate Evil (as appropriate for epic fantasy)... and ends up fighting the idiotic hereditary bureaucracy of the nominal good guys. And then he fights a villain and dies. Permanently. And there was another character, the opposite of the dead hero, a cynical atheist who had Very Important Lesson written all over him (the writers are hardcore Christians). He lasted an admirable time and was eventually killed not by a monster but by his own hubris... except waitaminute not so fast motherfucker PLOT TWIST he's alive and powered up and gets to rub it in everyone's faces! A whole new world opened for the 12-year-old me at that moment.
(I must say the books are rather old and would hardly be revelatory in CURRENT_YEAR. But back then? Dude, whoa.)

So Game of Thrones has a problem. It has designated protagonists and piled up secondary characters' deaths, but protagonists cannot suffer permadeath or degradation, and their trials look like a troon's misgendering against the backdrop of rape and slaughter. There's no suspense, and because the plot is jerked here and there to compensate, no anticipation either. The hacks shot several versions of the ending, just gonna put on the tinfoil hat and say the "real" ending will be picked according to critical reception, part of the hack duo's acquihire-like gamble.

Anyone who'd been invested in the show, I sympathize but you should've seen this coming. I only wish it could've sparked the creation of better fantasy shows. How come they spend upwards of 10M per episode and can't hire a concept artist? What is this third-tier f2p videogame shit? The zenith of tv was when Roney stabbed an alien god with a construction crane and it's been downhill ever since. Fucking zoomers.
I will not be satisfied until Showtime tries to one up HBO by shooting a Prince of Nothing series complete with fully CG mo-capped Rape Aliens.

The Fat Man told the producers how the books, and by extension, the character arcs, end. Also, there's a lot of things that were pruned/changed in the early seasons, like zombie Catelyn and Jeyne Westerling. Arya is still connected to/learning to warg Nymeria, Jon kinda sorta wargs into Ghost. Mance Rayder is stilt alive (although glamored by Mel).

I don't necessarily mind editing when its a series this long with a huge cast, it was poorly done in the last three seasons. The Pern series is even larger and not only spans a medieval setting with dragons and dolphins it has an advanced space faring element as well. I am not sure if something like it could be adapted to work within the confines of HBO (or any other network) without getting Rome'd.

Also, the first seasons worked because no one knew if GOT would be successful and HBO would continue funding it. It probably would have gotten the Rome treatment as well had it not had the luck to air right as social media was taking off and there was an avalanche of Tumblr/Facebook/Twitter posts littering the internet. Even the Hillary campaign referenced it (remember this?).

Besides hookers & blow is something they budget for, it's called production costs.
I would be absolutely shocked if GRRM knows anything but the barest outline of how the series ends.

This has been by far the best post-book season of Game of Thrones. I'm actually surprised how much heat they've been getting for this, solely because the two prior seasons should've destroyed any expectation that Benioff and Weiss could out-write Christopher Paolini.

It that way, it's actually been kind of a blessing that Martin stopped at book five of seven for the Song of Ice and Fire. If this was what they offered after six or seven seasons of following Martin rather than four or five, I'd say this was a failure comparable to Buffy season seven. If it weren't for the story elements they clearly got from Martin (R + J = T, HOLD THE DOOR!), and payoffs only Vince Russo could've fucked up ("The Door", "Battle of the Bastards"), I'd put season six of GoT below season seven of Buffy.

If Benioff and Weiss fuck up A + J = T (which is looking more likely each passing week), I'll spend the rest of my life seeking to produce a gay porno about the life of the Prophet Muhammad, just to frame them for its creation.
Aerys is not Tyrion's father, that completely ruins the dramatic irony of Tyrion being Tywin's true heir. It's a retarded and useless theory. Always has been. Just like Oberyn poisoning Tywin, Quentin Is Alive, Euron=Daario, and
the Cleganebowl, which will certainly happen in the show but never in the books.
 
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So are they going to end up refilling their army with people from the Iron Islands now? Yara went off with the ships so I imagine they are probably going to somehow have her roll in with like 100 ships and an army in a few weeks. Otherwise I don't know where the hell they even get any more people to fight at all at this point. Westeros population has dropped like 90% over the last couple seasons.
 
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So are they going to end up refilling their army with people from the Iron Islands now? Yara went off with the ships so I imagine they are probably going to somehow have her roll in with like 100 ships and an army in a few weeks. Otherwise I don't know where the hell they even get any more people to fight at all at this point. Westeros population has dropped like 90% over the last couple seasons.

The Vale?

Or they're going to Bay Of Pigs it
 
Ok, so as a late watcher of the episode, two things irk me. 1) Why in the hell would you start by sending a cavalry charge against a horde of undead that replenish with every death and won't break lines? and 2) Why would you put people in the crypt when the enemy can resurrect the dead? Yes I know, it's because it looks cool for the viewer, but those just seemed incredibly stupid to me.

Otherwise, great battle episode. Not surprised with those that did die, and am more surprised at who didn't die. (Arya and Grey Worm)
 
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Fuck. The part of me that likes cheap, disposable emotional thrills loves it. The part of me that wishes for good story writing is drinking heavily in a corner and considering starting a LOTR re-read.

I'm actually OK with Ninja assassin Arya. Fuck it. I mean, someone has to kill him, right? Isn't that why were here? The plan was always to lure the NK into the godswood so someone could take a shot at him. I'm happier with this than some "destiny sword battle" between a fated prince and the evil overlord. Fuck the fan theories.

Jorah MVP.

Lyanna, Hall of fame.

My real hope is there's something more to the WW plot line than just this. I mean, it HAS to end, but 7 seasons of build up for that with nothing really explained or revealed about why all this shit is happening?

Poor man's Captain Jack Sparrow on meth and crazy wino bitch are the final boss, eh? Hope there's a twist or two yet to come.

All in all though, not bad. The salt of the fanboy's and their tears over either A) their personal theory not being cannon or B) The people they thought should die didn't is pretty solid.

The fandom is livid right now and everyone is suddenly a master medieval battle tactician or an accomplished author/writer/director. I've seen loads of people sperging about how THEIR idea for how to fight make believe zombies is the right way and generally being angry about it.

In other news, it took less than 12 hours for someone to co-opt Arya for journalistic woke points.

 
The salt has reached a level I have not thought possible. I would be outraged if I actually expected anything to come out of the series after season 5 or bothered to put the time into reading all of GRRM's eh books. All the sore threads on 4chan are just fucking amazing.
 
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The fandom is livid right now and everyone is suddenly a master medieval battle tactician or an accomplished author/writer/director.
Everyone but the people running the show, obviously.

It really isn't that hard to spot that the things done in this episode were tactically pure stupidity and just done to be dramatic.
 
The salt has reached a level I have not thought possible. I would be outraged if I actually expected anything to come out of the series after season 5 or bothered to put the time into reading all of GRRM's eh books. All the sore threads on 4chan are just fucking amazing.

Ninja Arya sniping the Night King has been a meme used to mock the writing on the show for over three years now. It became reality and people are rightfully losing their fucking minds over it.
 
I’d rather have something dumb that’s dramatic and looks cool than some Master and Commander super accurate yawnfest designed by some tactical realism dweeb in my cheesy pulpy dragons and ice zombies schlock. They did a fine job of conveying the narrative of the battle. I actually though that there was a chance they might merk everyone in Winterfell. On the one hand that would have been a wildly bold and kind of cool move on the writers part.

Problem is it would have killed all the remaining likeable characters in the show, and as much as I love Cersei and her shitty bitch antics, she probably could t carry the last three episodes all on her own.

Also lol everyone mad that Arya killed the Night King. That ruled. Arya rules, she’s a little badass and the only Stark who can get shit done. Jon Snow is a nice guy and all, but he’s kind of dumb, and his Win/Loss ratio isn’t great.

Though I would have also accepted Davos as the guy to do it. My ideal end of the series involves The Onion King.

Anywho, looking forward to Dany going full psychopath for the rest of the show.
 
Everyone but the people running the show, obviously.

It really isn't that hard to spot that the things done in this episode were tactically pure stupidity and just done to be dramatic.

I totally agree, this battle wasn't on the level of Battle of the Bastards, which had stupid moments but was consistent. This had cool moments but from the perspective of the show, the victory was a Pyrrhic one where it seemed that 90% of their army was killed so I am wondering where they are getting an army if the vast bulk was fighting the undead?
 
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I totally agree, this battle wasn't on the level of Battle of the Bastards, which had stupid moments but was consistent. This had cool moments but from the perspective of the show, the victory was a Pyrrhic one where it seemed that 90% of their army was killed so I am wondering where they are getting an army if the vast bulk was fighting the undead?
Well, her team DID just literally save the world from being turned into Zombies, and Cersei deliberately didn’t do shit. I can imagine she’d have a relatively easy time picking up new recruits who’d appreciate a ruler who doesn’t just basically decide to let magical ice zombies go running around the kingdom all Willy billy causing an apocalypse and what have you.
 
Dany has fucking dragons she should have won already. She has an aircraft carrier loaded with bombers in an age where the pike phalanx was the pinnacle of warfare.

I’d rather have something dumb that’s dramatic and looks cool than some Master and Commander super accurate yawnfest designed by some tactical realism dweeb in my cheesy pulpy dragons and ice zombies schlock.
Well I wouldn't and I don't care what you want. So there. Fucking Normie get out REEE
 
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