Game of Thrones Thread

[Judge Holden]

How can they subvert our expectations with this, though?

Knowing how DnD have an unholy gift for pissing off literally everyone with their shitty writing, odds are the show will end with the niggers happily accepting slavery in exchange for white people giving them more fried chicken and crack and free access to white women

 

[Spatula]

How can they subvert our expectations with this, though?

They will quote Kanye the Wise:
"Slavery is a choice"

 

[No creativity]

So, what happened with Euron? Did he just accidentally stumble upon Jaime right after swimming to the beach or did he decide to lay in ambush near the boat he could have used to escape and challenge the first passerby, who just so happened to be Jaime, to a duel to the death?

I generally try to ignore this kind of plot contrivances and give whatever I'm watching the benefit of the doubt but this is really bad. Ever since episode 3 (I imagine only because almost nothing hapopened in ep 1 and 2) all logic is completely gone from the show, things happen because they need to happen, characters abandon all reason to do what the plot demands, time and space is completely ignored and people are where they need to be without a thought given to how they got there.

Spoiler

inb4 "he wasn't paying that much attention"

 

[Stab You in the Back]

I had thought that Dany reacted so strongly to the bells because it signaled Tyrion's betrayal to her. She wanted war. He wanted peace. When the bells rung, it just proved to her that he betrayed her trust. According to the behind the scenes featurette, apparently Dany went ham because she saw the Red Keep and it reminded her of all the things that were taken from her. So instead of a leader who is fending off constant betrayals by doubtful advisors, she's just an entitled princess who is taking out her frustrations on innocent people.

Oh yeah I mentioned Confederate in my last post, for those who dont know what this is, allow me to enlighten you...

“The show chronicles the events leading to the Third American Civil War. The series takes place in an alternate timeline, where the southern states have successfully seceded from the Union, giving rise to a nation in which slavery remains legal and has evolved into a modern institution. The story follows a broad swath of characters on both sides of the Mason-Dixon Demilitarized Zone – freedom fighters, slave hunters, politicians, abolitionists, journalists, the executives of a slave-holding conglomerate and the families of people in their thrall.”

Or to put it simply, in a couple years time we will see the BLM version of A Handmaids Tale style persecution porn as written by DnD, with the story based around heroic fREEEEdom fighting journalists opposing FFFFFFUCKING WHITE MAAAAAAAAAALE slave hunting corporate CEOs and politicians

Confederate bothers me so much because its an interesting premise that is guaranteed to be squandered by hack writing. Assuming the confederate states successfully seceeded from the north, the north would essentially be a white ethnostate while the south would be a minority white multicultural nation. The Confederacy would not only have a massive black population, but it would also have significant spanish and caribbean populations, as well as a high indian and perhaps even chinese and asian populations (depending on whether some western territories decided to join the confederacy over the union). As automation made slavery less profitable, you'd start to see a lot of slave owners pushing to abolish slavery. Assuming slavery was abolished and there were subsequent civil rights movements and such in the south, the Confederacy in Confederate would resemble the multicultural paradise that left-wingers are constantly clamoring for while the north remained a mostly white ethnostate. This would have been a logical and clever subversion of expectations, as opposed to the trite and simplistic "durr, southerners bad" that we're going to get.

 

[дядя Боря]

Knowing how DnD have an unholy gift for pissing off literally everyone with their shitty writing, odds are the show will end with the niggers happily accepting slavery in exchange for white people giving them more fried chicken and crack and free access to white women

and grape drank coming out of every faucet.

Confederate bothers me so much because its an interesting premise that is guaranteed to be squandered by hack writing. Assuming the confederate states successfully seceeded from the north, the north would essentially be a white ethnostate while the south would be a minority white multicultural nation. The Confederacy would not only have a massive black population, but it would also have significant spanish and caribbean populations, as well as a high indian and perhaps even chinese and asian populations (depending on whether some western territories decided to join the confederacy over the union). As automation made slavery less profitable, you'd start to see a lot of slave owners pushing to abolish slavery. Assuming slavery was abolished and there were subsequent civil rights movements and such in the south, the Confederacy in Confederate would resemble the multicultural paradise that left-wingers are constantly clamoring for while the north remained a mostly white ethnostate. This would have been a logical and clever subversion of expectations, as opposed to the trite and simplistic "durr, southerners bad" that we're going to get.

... and Liberia has turned into Wakanda, not a slave trading state.

I'm sure that they have focus groups of SJWs to tell them how to fuck it up royaly while keeping their little dicks erect.

 

[Zero0]

LOL, being salty about someone else's salt is truly the most re-tarded.

The dude said danny going mad is "terribly misogynistic", that's pretty retarded in my book.

 

[Arcturus]

Anyone willing to do an episode recap? I can't find any that aren't giant articles. I like the books and hate the show. Ever since season 1. I thought the acting and pacing was awful. Like a highschool play. I like to keep up with this last season through recaps though. So I can dance around yelling "I TOLD YOU SO" to friends and family.

 

[Man vs persistent rat]

As somebody who liked the series up to season 6 and thought 7 was depressingly bad, is 8 so catastrophic that it's funny (and worth watching as a result), or is it just embarrassing and undercooked like 7?

 

[Absolutego]

As somebody who liked the series up to season 6 and thought 7 was depressingly bad, is 8 so catastrophic that it's funny (and worth watching as a result), or is it just embarrassing and undercooked like 7?

If you're still even remotely optimistic or care about the show's universe, then season 8 is heartbreaking. If you resigned yourself to this becoming a bad soap opera early in season 7, then it's the funniest thing on TV in years. We're talking about the show flirting with Bollywood-tier hack screenwriting. And as a bonus, episode 2 is actually unironically good, at least when ignoring the context of what follows it.

 

[Mola Ram]

If you're still even remotely optimistic or care about the show's universe, then season 8 is heartbreaking. If you resigned yourself to this becoming a bad soap opera early in season 7 it's the funniest thing on TV in years. We're talking about the show flirting with Bollywood-tier hack screenwriting. And as a bonus, episode 2 is actually unironically good, at least when ignoring the context of what follows it.

In the full scope of season 8, episodes 1 & 2 can probably be renamed "Filler, Part I" and "Filler, Part II."

 

[Truthspeaker]

OH NO NO NO NO NO
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This isn't the really impressive stat.

This is the really impressive stat: "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" was better received. Meaning "The Bells" is, as of now, the worst received episode in the history of the show.

Like a car driving off the cliff into the fires of hell.

Believe it or not, I actually appreciate the moxie of Benioff and Weiss on this. It takes serious balls to turn your lead character into the least-ambiguous villain on the show after all this time.

What I don't appreciate, and what history'll also not appreciate, is the route they took to get there. The difference between Dany and, say, Stannis (just to use an example of back when this show still had actual writing at the helm) is that it took seasons of misfortune to bring Stannis to his lowest, and murdering one's own daughter isn't all that far from murdering one's own brother. Dany's only in this situation now because she's consistently failed to remember how to use a fucking dragon since season seven, among many other obviously bad decisions she and almost other every character have made since the start of the post-book seasons.

Characters made bad decisions in the Martin seasons, too. But they always did so because either they themselves were supposed to be morons (Joffrey, Cersei), or because they had a weakness of some sort that brought them down at the exact wrong time (Ned, Tyrion). That's not close to what's happened under Benioff and Weiss: men have mutinied, in real life and pre-season six, for better decisions than Jon, Dany, and Tyrion have made these last three seasons.

And the romance is inexcuseably awful. Inner-city public middle-school productions of Romeo and Juliet wouldn't cast leads with this little chemistry. The last time a major, quality property carried off a romance this bad was the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy, but at least that came about after the Original Trilogy gave the series a satisfying beginning, middle, and end independent of everything else.

Game of Thrones never had something comparable. There was only ever gonna be one point where viewers could get resolution, and it's Next Cursèd Sunday.

This show was a mistake. Here's hoping every other writer learns to wait for their series to be at a proper endpoint before they get it adapted.

 

[OttoWest]

Nice to see true unity among absolutely fucking everyone from the book writer to the actors to the producers* to book fans to show fans to SJWs to anti SJWs to normies in despising this lazy "SUBVERTED UR EXPECTATIONS LOLOLOLOLOL" horseshit that wastes all characterisation and story building solely for an empty and predictable plot twists.

There’s an ever-growing compilation vid out there collecting all of the actors’ reactions when asked about their thoughts on the final season and it’s hilarious to watch their thinly veiled sarcasm and contemp for this shit sandwich.

 

[Lioness]

As somebody who liked the series up to season 6 and thought 7 was depressingly bad, is 8 so catastrophic that it's funny (and worth watching as a result), or is it just embarrassing and undercooked like 7?

It hurts.

I knew how shit it has become. I knew what was coming and the latest episode still left me feeling sick. I'm only in it for the memes and salt now, and my laughter is bitter. Save yourself. It's the darkest timeline.

 

[KE 521]

There’s an ever-growing compilation vid out there collecting all of the actors’ reactions when asked about their thoughts on the final season and it’s hilarious to watch their thinly veiled sarcasm and contemp for this shit sandwich.

Where is this? I wanna see

 

[Truthspeaker]

If you're still even remotely optimistic or care about the show's universe, then season 8 is heartbreaking. If you resigned yourself to this becoming a bad soap opera early in season 7, then it's the funniest thing on TV in years. We're talking about the show flirting with Bollywood-tier hack screenwriting. And as a bonus, episode 2 is actually unironically good, at least when ignoring the context of what follows it.

I've been disappointed since season six, and I'm still shocked at how bad Benioff and Weiss managed to nuke the fridge. I'm certain Martin gave them better points for the possible end than this, and they tossed it all in the trash.

Say what you like about Joss "MALE FEMINIST ALLY" Whedon, but he at least had the decency to leave the MCU when he got tired of the workload and the bullshit. Whedon also had the decency to be satisfied with the big-money jobs he'd already taken on.

There's no way Benioff and Weiss have been involved with at least the past three seasons for any other reason. Rick Berman and Brannon Braga are the only comparable figures to them at this point.

It hurts.

I knew how shit it has become. I knew what was coming and the latest episode still left me feeling sick. I'm only in it for the memes and salt now, and my laughter is bitter. Save yourself. It's the darkest timeline.

Tell me about it.

Even a Plinkett review won't make up for this.

 

[Spatula]

Where is this? I wanna see

 

[Pigeondary]

I'm glad I checked out of this soap opera made for fantasy marks early.

Did people unironically think that this show was going to get a good ending?

The pacing issues early were massive alarm bells.

 

[Starscreams Cape]

Gone but not forgotten..

 

[Truthspeaker]

This was funny. And tragic. But mostly tragic.

I feel worst for Dinklage. Tyrion would've been remembered like Tony Soprano or Walter White with better showrunners. Now he's Anikin Skywalker.

Gone but no forgotten..

RIP in Power, Stannis I.

You burned orders of magnitude fewer children alive than the Queens.

 

[No creativity]

Anyone willing to do an episode recap? I can't find any that aren't giant articles. I like the books and hate the show. Ever since season 1. I thought the acting and pacing was awful. Like a highschool play. I like to keep up with this last season through recaps though. So I can dance around yelling "I TOLD YOU SO" to friends and family.

Varys betrays Daenerys by spreading the news that Jon is the real heir to the throne and straight up telling him "Look I don't know if Daenerys is going crazy or not but I know you're sane and would make for a better king" when he reaches Dragonstone. Tyrion tells on him and Daenerys gives him the Tarly treatment.

Tyrion begs Daenerys to stop the siege if she hears bells toll. She apparently agrees.

Jaime has been captured offscreen and is held prisoner, Tyrion goes to free him and tells him to save Cersei by escaping through a secret passage out of the Red Keep, They'll find a boat waiting for them. I think Davos is the one who leaves the boat there as a favor to Tyrion but I have no idea if he knows who will be using it.

Arya and The Hound are inside King's landing. She wants Cersei and he's ready for the Cleganebowl.

The siege begins, Denerys effortlessly solos both the Iron Fleet and the Golden company (who is standing OUTSIDE the walls for some reason) , takes out all the scorpions and destroys the city gates.

The good guys enter the city and all the Lannister soldiers surrender. The bells are tolling, and the fight apparently ends without any civilian dying, the only casualties being the Golden company Mercenaries and a bunch of pirates. But uh oh, Daenerys doesn't like the sound of the bells and goes crazy (no, I'm not making this up) and starts burning down the citiy, roasting most of the population of King's landing before heading to the red keep to burn it. Grey Worm goes "Yass kween slay!" and starts killing Lannister soldiers, followed by the rest of the Unsillied, Dothraki and Northmen. Once they're out of defenseless soldiers to kill they move on to the civilians.

Arya and the Hound are inside the Red keep as it starts crumbling, he tells her to choose life over her revenge and get the fuck out. She does.
Cersei, Quyburn and the Mountain are escaping the Red keep, when they are stopped the Hound. Mountain kills Quyburn by bitchslapping him into oblivion. Gregor and Sandor start fighting as Cersei runs away. The fight ends in a draw and they both die.

Jaime is about to enter the secret passage into the red keep when he stumbles upon Euron who survived the destruction of his fleet and just happened to be there because the plot demanded it. Euron decides to fight Jaime (despite the fact that they met near the escape boat and he could have just taken it and run away) , Jaime wins and kills Euron but is seriously wounded. He enters the keep and reaches Cersei. They talk a bit and die together as the escape tunnel collapses on them.

Daenerys won't fucking stop destrying King's landing and the army retreats before she decides to burn them too. There is a long scene where Arya escapes from king's landing and befriends a horse (yes really).

End of the episode.