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How Tormund is going to survive this one is going to be another wacky adventure.

To be completely fair, I'd be totally game for a spin-off series called Tormund's Wacky Adventures where he goes around Westeros and Essos with his faithful horse Brienne of Tarth on an hour-long farce for 12 seasons.
 
Sansa: "You stand accused of murder and treason. How do you answer..... Lord Baelish?"

Littlefinger:
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That was fucking legendary.
 
I really enjoyed that finale, though aside from that and ep4, I didn't really enjoy this year's run as much as the last one. At least it wasn't quite as bad as Season 5 tho.

Kinda disappointed that the leaks turned out to be completely spot on, even though they were posted like 10 months ago by now. At least last year's ones left a few surprises out for us lol.
So what do you guys think's coming first? Season 8 or a TWOW release date? My money's on the former. (:_(
 

To be completely fair, I'd be totally game for a spin-off series called Tormund's Wacky Adventures where he goes around Westeros and Essos with his faithful horse Brienne of Tarth on an hour-long farce for 12 seasons.

I can see that working in a 'Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead' sort of capacity, except at the end of every season it just gets more and more absurd at how Tormund survives these impossible scenarios to the series finale being an hour long monologue under a spotlight as to why Tormund is the last man on Earth.

And allegedly the spin-off show is going to be a prequel, which, why? Why would you do Roberts Rebellion? Boring boring boring. Prequels in Universes where, in the ending story, '....AND THEN THERE WAS AN ICE LICH, RIDING A LICH DRAGON WHO SHOT FIRE BUT ONLY COLD' to go back to 'Oh yeah, you remember the war that set everything up? That you know all of the stakes and exact consequences and all the secrets of? Stuff you already know? Yeah, we're going to do a show on that'. Nobody cares, stop. Seriously.

People want the wacky adventures of Tormund, the whoring of Tyrion and Bronne. Maybe the Night King resurrects Sean Bean and then Bran saves him and he becomes Ben-Jen 2 except as a dullahan, who throws his severed head as an ice grenade. Then him and Ben-Jen go around righting wrongs as the mis-understood undead of Westeros.
 
And allegedly the spin-off show is going to be a prequel, which, why? Why would you do Roberts Rebellion? Boring boring boring. Prequels in Universes where, in the ending story, '....AND THEN THERE WAS AN ICE LICH, RIDING A LICH DRAGON WHO SHOT FIRE BUT ONLY COLD' to go back to 'Oh yeah, you remember the war that set everything up? That you know all of the stakes and exact consequences and all the secrets of? Stuff you already know? Yeah, we're going to do a show on that'. Nobody cares, stop. Seriously.

I can see a prequel series working, but since everything is set up in GoT already, people would just go in knowing that young Robby B gets pissed off at Rhaegar and becomes king just like people went into the Star Wars prequels knowing it was about how Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader.
Of course there's more than just Robert's Rebellion that could work for a prequel, e.g. the Century of Blood, Aegon's conquest of Westeros, the Greyjoy Rebellion could work even. But, I'd rather just leave it at what it is now and the lore is told through dialogue and flashback rather than an entire extended universe like Star Wars has/had.
Of course I haven't read the books nor do I know what other things GRRM has written so I could very well be saying this without knowing there's already an extended universe.
 
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Having seen three episodes this season, this one was by far the best. 4/10, higher if it had ended on that beautiful shot of Jaime leaving King's Landing. Everything in Winterfell was trash, everything in the last 15 minutes was trash.

Got to love GoT viewing parties. I get to complain about autistic shit like character motivation and basic human logic, and point out fun stuff like the editing mistake of Jon approaching Cersei in the Dragon's Pit from the wrong side.
 
I can see a prequel series working, but since everything is set up in GoT already, people would just go in knowing that young Robby B gets pissed off at Rhaegar and becomes king just like people went into the Star Wars prequels knowing it was about how Anakin Skywalker becomes Darth Vader.
Of course there's more than just Robert's Rebellion that could work for a prequel, e.g. the Century of Blood, Aegon's conquest of Westeros, the Greyjoy Rebellion could work even. But, I'd rather just leave it at what it is now and the lore is told through dialogue and flashback rather than an entire extended universe like Star Wars has/had.
Of course I haven't read the books nor do I know what other things GRRM has written so I could very well be saying this without knowing there's already an extended universe.

The difference is that, the whole thing in Star Wars is mysterious. Yes, we know Anakin became Vader, but how exactly was he seduced? What the hell were the clone wars? We hear these vaugeries that we don't know anything about or how they inform the universe at large.

(Of course, because Lucas wrote them they're all stupid as fuck, but lets go back to the age of innocence where we had no clue)

In GoT, you know why Roberts Rebellion was a lie, how it started, its basic progression, what happened to its 'villian' and their family. And why and how the Targareon's lost. Do we really need to see the middle stuff? The battles? The politicking? Any 'surprise wins' that the Targarean's do is basically nullified because we know exactly why and how they lose. Basically there aren't any surprises or new information. You know the beginning, middle and the end, along with all the consequences. A pre-quel is supposed to give you something new. I guess there are other wars and shit that might be interesting, but for me that all kind of pales in comparison to armies of the dead, dragons and shit.

I guess for me, I don't particularly care or like prequels before a universe's major, major events have unfolded. Because it all seems that everything will be unimportant in the end. Prequels are very difficult to do, and even harder to do well. Side content is almost always better. Or soft sequels. I guess all of that stuff could be interesting? Maybe. I know HBO wanted at least 10 seasons so they want their spin-offs, no matter what.
 
HBO has five GOT spinoff series in development at the moment. GRRM has vehemently made it clear that he doesn't want to see Robert's Rebellion adapted, and he seems okay with whatever these five ideas are, so perhaps we're safe there. There's plenty of "other stuff" on Planetos to play with that a show watcher can still be surprised with and that could please the "YAS QUEEN 11/10 for every burn-it-with-dragonfire-and-screw-the-political-interplay episode" crowd that HBO seems to be embracing (and that seems to be working, demographically speaking).
 
That ten or so minutes featuring Theon was by far the biggest bit of faggotry aired on a network known for gay sex scenes. One hundred percent gayness.

On the other side of the coin, that final five minutes was pretty baller. Night King and his undead steed should just go ahead a wreck shit and wrap this bitch up.
 
So uhm... I'll have a more elaborate thought on things later, but one question lingers...

Are they going to have the Zombie Mountain do ANYTHING before the series wrap up? For fuck sake, all he's done in the last two or three seasons was bitchslap some religious zealot. Otherwise all he has done is stand around and look puffy.

Here's to hoping in Season 8 he punches out Viscerion or something equally badass.
 
Well at least I was right about how the Ice Dragon would work.
As for the rest of the episode, that was ace!
Cleganebowl teasing!
Good to see Littlefinger become a little bitch.
Loved how tense the scene between Tyrion and Cersei was.
Jamie says fuck off to Cersei! She dead now.
BOATSEX! HOT INCEST/10 Tyrion Lannister: 'Get in there my son!'
Zombies riding undead dragons will always be as metal as you can get.

As for Bran telling Sam and not Sansa or Arya, well Sansa's not exactly a fan of Jon, plus he didn't know exactly what would happen with Littlefinger, and Arya could fly off the handle with this news, risking the Starks. Sam has proven himself to be extremely loyal to Jon, and has become a brother to him. Jon will likely be more likely to believe Sam with this news than his sisters. I hope for a good freak out scene when he realises he just banged his aunt!
 
So uhm... I'll have a more elaborate thought on things later, but one question lingers...

Are they going to have the Zombie Mountain do ANYTHING before the series wrap up? For fuck sake, all he's done in the last two or three seasons was bitchslap some religious zealot. Otherwise all he has done is stand around and look puffy.

Here's to hoping in Season 8 he punches out Viscerion or something equally badass.
All he's there to do is hype up the Cleganebowl. The entire confrontation with Sandor this episode was to inform the audience "Yes, Cleganebowl is happening season 8, prepare yourself!"

Also he looked embarrassingly small next to Sandor. Not sure if they changed actors or something but it was very jarring to see.

And that's real sweet of you to help out D&D with their character motivations and scripts, @CWCissey , but keep in mind this is the show that forgot how many children Cersei had. If you're expecting logical consistency instead of scenes made for youtube reaction videos, you haven't been paying attention.
 
And that's real sweet of you to help out D&D with their character motivations and scripts, @CWCissey , but keep in mind this is the show that forgot how many children Cersei had. If you're expecting logical consistency instead of scenes made for youtube reaction videos, you haven't been paying attention.

I'm trying to get the writing back on track!

If that happens, I think you owe me a fucking beer! Decent shit too, not pisswater!
 
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I'm trying to get the writing back on track!

If that happens, I think you owe me a fucking beer! Decent shit too, not pisswater!
If the show actually has a decent last season I'll owe you a castle, a lordship, and your own vineyard in the Arbor.

Listen, I feel you. There are some stellar moments this season (mind you, I only watched three of the episodes, but they had some good stuff). The Tyrion/Cersei stuff was fantastic, for example. Great acting, great performances. But its obvious that there is zero effort being put into the writing anymore. Some plotlines (looking at you, Winterfell) were literally just there to kill time and to emotionally manipulate the viewer. We've gone from seasons where you had to actually pay attention to character dialogue to seasons where you have to just flat out assume every scene you're watching is designed to trick you for a super shocking moment meant to appeal to youtubers and viewing parties.

There are only six episodes left to conclude the series and there is little indication that D&D will be able to wrap it up in a decent manner.
 
I have a question to ask. I saw this season's finale and was thoroughly unimpressed with it. Sure, little finger's death was very satisfying, and the reunion between the two sisters as well. A zombie leaping at Cersei was great, and so was the dragon melting the wall. There was no epic death scene that had you hanging on the edge of your chair, and Theon's redemption scene was just flat. I was expecting another death scene to top last season's finale of death by wildfire, it was really bone chilling. Did anyone else find this season's finale a bit anticlimactic?
 
I have a question to ask. I saw this season's finale and was thoroughly unimpressed with it. Sure, little finger's death was very satisfying, and the reunion between the two sisters as well. A zombie leaping at Cersei was great, and so was the dragon melting the wall. There was no epic death scene that had you hanging on the edge of your chair, and Theon's redemption scene was just flat. I was expecting another death scene to top last season's finale of death by wildfire, it was really bone chilling. Did anyone else find this season's finale a bit anticlimactic?

Nah I see it as a more subtle form of dread with stuff like
Jamie leaving Winterfell, the White Walkers actually breaking through the Wall and that bit with Tyrion watching Dany and Jon go get it on, while also having some hope in the aftermath (The Starks, the revelations about Ae-Jon Targaryen)
 
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