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Your Weird Fetish said:
Thinking Dabid and Dan planned this all along tastes like Stockholm syndrome to me. They just ran out of books and crudely stole whatever fan theories most subverted expectations.
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Too bad they didn't adopt Cantuse's 'Night Lamp' theory.
Feline Supremacist said:
Big if true: Has George R.R. Martin Secretly Written Books 6 and 7 Already?

For several years, we here at Observer have methodically tracked the progress (or lack thereof) of George R.R. Martin’s The Winds of Winter, the sixth book in his A Song of Ice and Fire series on which HBO’s Game of Thrones is based. Martin released the most recent novel in the series, A Dance With Dragons, way back in 2011 and has publicly said he never envisioned the show concluding before his own tale. But alas, the series finale of Game of Thrones will air this Sunday, and The Winds of Winter is still nowhere to be seen.

Or is it?

Former Game of Thrones star Ian McElhinney—who played Ser Barristan Selmy, a character from the series who is notably still alive in the books—made some shocking comments recently at the Epic Con convention, which took place this past April. He claimed that Martin has already finished the final two books but struck an agreement with HBO not to publish them until after the show has ended, reports Collider.

“George has already written Books 6 and 7, and as far as he’s concerned there only are seven books,” the actor reportedly said. “But he struck an agreement with David [Benioff] and Dan [Weiss], the showrunners on the series, that he would not publish the final two books until the series has completed. So if all goes well, in another month or two we might get Books 6 and 7, and I’m intrigued to know how Barristan, for instance, ends up going through those final two books. George, I talked to him during Season 1 and he did say to me that Barristan had a very interesting journey. But unfortunately I didn’t get to play all of that, so we’ll have to wait and see.”

Game changer, thy name is Ian McElhinney. Many fans—us included—have bemoaned Martin’s lack of progress on the long-awaited novels. But once it became clear around Season 5 that the show was surpassing the narrative of the books, Martin provided the showrunners with the broad strokes of his intended ending (which is hopefully handled with more care than last night’s episode, “The Bells”). Perhaps that is when this alleged agreement was reached, though this all remains completely unconfirmed at this time.

When reached for comment, HBO directed us to Random House, the publishing company behind the books. Random House has not yet responded to Observer’s request for comment.
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George R. Martin has said at least once that that is not true. People close to him supposedly confirm that it is indeed a pipe dream. If that info did come out there would be fan revolt. I'd drop the series entirely.

Marissa Moira said:
I dunno the new watchmen series looks like it will take the cake from GOT in terms of not following the book.
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Friggin' Lindelof. Like JJ Abrams and Alex Kurtzman, he's another one of those hires that cannot be based solely on merit, as he is one of the biggest hacks in Hollywood.

Marissa Moira said:
Zero blue dongs tho so not diverse enough.
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That is what I'm most looking forward to if someone adapts Margaret Atwood's "Oryx and Crake".
Since it’s only the blue tissue and the pheromones released by it that stimulate the males, there’s no more unrequited love these days, no more thwarted lust; no more shadow between the desire and the act. Courtship begins at the first whiff, the first faint blush of azure, with the males presenting flowers to the females – just as male penguins present round stones, said Crake, or as the male silverfish presents a sperm packet. At the same time they indulge in musical outbursts, like songbirds. Their penises turn bright blue to match the blue abdomens of the females, and they do a sort of blue-dick dance number, erect members waving to and fro in unison, in time to the foot movements and the singing: a feature suggested to Crake by the sexual semaphoring of crabs. From amongst the floral tributes the female chooses four flowers, and the sexual ardour of the unsuccessful candidates dissipates immediately, with no hard feelings left. Then, when the blue of her abdomen has reached its deepest shade, the female and her quartet find a secluded spot and go at it until the woman becomes pregnant and her blue colouring fades. And that is that.
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I suppose the discomfiting elements of that story in the first novel would make it difficult/creepy to adapt. Still holding out hope for a synchronized blue penis mating dance in my future.

Commander X said:
Imagine thinking like this.
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The crazy GoT fans are tearing their hair out and screeching almost non-stop. A true Meltdown May, and it's fantastic.
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We need another world war real damn fast, the population needs a'thinning.
 
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gobbogobb said:
I guess these chucklefucks weren't around for lost or sons of anarchy or how I met your mother. I could go farther back but Y'all wouldn't remember those shows either
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I was there for them; I just didn't watch them. I couldn't get into SOA and one episode of How I Met Your Mother was enough. As for Lost, I saw an interview with JJ Abrams and I knew to stay away from anything he's involved with. I told people Lost was going to end badly, and I was right.
 
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Judge Holden said:
Slightly offtopic from the thrilling subject of IRL actor shipping, but one of the most fucktarded decisions in the episode may well have just spoiled some real deep shit in the final book

Euron's end role being "Jamies ultimate nemesis" is so fucking random and out of nowhere I am willing to bet it was infact one of the big "endgame plot points" GRRM gave Dumb and Dumber alongside "the undead are defeated at winterfell" and "dany burns down kings landing in a fit of madness" and "cersei wildfire bombs the sept" and other such points.

With that in mind, lets revisit just how scary and how much a threat Book Euron is

In the books he is not only depicted as a Ramsay Bolton tier sadist and monster but with far more intelligence and competence to the point of having a plan and the means to enslave Danys dragons for himself, and he is increasingly hinted and then flat out shown in the latest excerpts from Winds of Winter to be deeply involved with the darker eldritch and lovecraftian shit that riddles the background lore and is steadily becoming more prominent in series, and he is actively planning something that involves mass slaughter-sacrificing a fucktunne of priests and magic users including nyarlathotep cultists and warlocks and such in order to become a god.

Take this quote from the latest snippet for example



All in all pretty spoopy stuff. Indeed as I mentioned before, this Euron is prime material for the ultimate villain beyond even the White Walkers given how he is set to become an invincible lovecraftian god-king. I imagine after betraying Cersei he will take over Kings Landing, kill at least one of Dany's dragons and enslave the other two with his dragon horn, and be all set to begin his genocidal conquest of the world, with the only thing standing in his way in this final hour being Jamie Lannister.

Should Jamie be the one to kill this level of monster at the cost of his own life, that would indeed be a worthy end for his character arc and the ultimate twist on his title "Kingslayer", perhaps he can die in Cersei's arms before whatever the Valonquer is comes to kill her. Either way he comes full circle and his character growth is done justice.

But the ultimate reason I now firmly believe something like this will happen? GRRM has already penned a story where Jamie Lannister defeats Cthulhu* which by itself is a mildly amusing author penned fanfic, but combined with shit about euron we are finding out in the books and the confirmation in the show that Jamie kills him it makes this shit a near certainty.

So yeah, if Im right fans of Jamie can take solace in the fact he will be given a proper end in the books

* on a technicality by slaughtering his cultists before they can summon him, causing Cthulhu to forfeit
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What happened to Euron hurt me worse than anything my new favorite showrunners and best friends have done. Book Euron's set to be the greatest villain in the history of epic fantasy, and they turned him into a character so uninspiring, he killed a dragon in the episode before this, and no one cared at all.

He didn't even keep his Crow's Eye. That's like making a Jaws movie and not giving the shark any teeth.
 
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Commander X said:
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70+ hours of watching the character you and the rest of the boxwine swillers have been heavily invested in as a FEMINIST SLAY KWEEN character slaaaay for change only for her to lose her mind with one episode left.
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I think there's been a divide between those who watched for the politics of Westeros vs those who watched for the action of Essos.

If you view it as a political show (i.e. the "game") then Daenerys was clearly just another character. Her faults were clear from very early on and she would run into problems against smart politicians like Tywin in Westeros.

If you view it as a medieval action show then until recently most of the battles were in Essos and so Daenerys seems like the main character.

It also explains why D&D think we want 90 minute battles instead of 10 episodes of politics. Unfortunately for them they still have to follow Martin's plot outline so they please no-one.
 
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