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Then she gets blamed for it and everyone assumes she did it on purpose because she's batshit when actually she's sane? Sounds like an interesting conflict but we really need to wrap all this up.
I was just thinking the show would end with everyone standing at the lip of the crater where King's Landing used to be, a comically-dirty Dany smacking Tyrion for not telling her about the explosives, and then rolling credits to the Curb Your Enthusiasm theme.
 
This doesn't pertain to the recent season at all, but the more I think about it the more I think Rhaegar Targaryen was an absolute dick.
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>is a grown ass married man with children
>mad because wifey can't give you a third kid
>runs off with a teenage girl and doesn't tell anybody that you didn't kidnap her
>this leads to her father and brother being brutally tortured and murdered by your dad because he's fucking bonkers
>never tells teenage girl about this
>shithitsthefan.jpg
>it's spiraled into a full-blown rebellion
>decide to annul your marriage to wifey leaving your two children bastards
>marries teenage girl in not-wifey's homeland because fuck her I guess
>gets teenage girl pregnant and locks her in a tower a thousand miles away from her family and never tells her family that she's okay
>has to be dragged back to the war started because of your dumb ass by your dad two whole years into it
>gets killed in like your first battle by a dude wearing antlers on his helmet because you think wearing a ruby-encrusted ceremonial breastplate is more important than actual goddamn armor
 
you know the more I dwell on it the more I think Rhaegar Targaryen was an absolute dick
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>is a grown ass married man with children
>mad because wifey can't give you a third kid
>runs off with a teenage girl and doesn't tell anybody that you didn't kidnap her
>this leads to her father and brother being brutally tortured and murdered by your dad because he's fucking bonkers
>never tells teenage girl about this
>shithitsthefan.jpg
>it's spiraled into a full-blown rebellion
>decide to annul your marriage to wifey leaving your two children bastards
>marries teenage girl in not-wifey's homeland because fuck her I guess
>gets teenage girl pregnant and locks her in a tower a thousand miles away from her family and never tells her family that she's okay
>has to be dragged back to the war started because of your dumb ass by your dad two whole years into it
>gets killed in like your first battle by a dude wearing antlers on his helmet because you think wearing a ruby-encrusted ceremonial breastplate is more important than actual goddamn armor
Even with the whole "profuhcey" argument it seems bewildering the more you look back at that timeline of events and who participated in the mess. It makes sense when you consider how history typically works but even here it seems so odd that Ned and Jon Arryn are the only guys who weren't complete assholes in some manner.
 
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This doesn't pertain to the recent season at all, but the more I think about it the more I think Rhaegar Targaryen was an absolute dick.
like
>is a grown ass married man with children
>mad because wifey can't give you a third kid
>runs off with a teenage girl and doesn't tell anybody that you didn't kidnap her
>this leads to her father and brother being brutally tortured and murdered by your dad because he's fucking bonkers
>never tells teenage girl about this
>shithitsthefan.jpg
>it's spiraled into a full-blown rebellion
>decide to annul your marriage to wifey leaving your two children bastards
>marries teenage girl in not-wifey's homeland because fuck her I guess
>gets teenage girl pregnant and locks her in a tower a thousand miles away from her family and never tells her family that she's okay
>has to be dragged back to the war started because of your dumb ass by your dad two whole years into it
>gets killed in like your first battle by a dude wearing antlers on his helmet because you think wearing a ruby-encrusted ceremonial breastplate is more important than actual goddamn armor
When you put it all that way, Walder Frey did nothing wrong. Who wants to commit to either of the set of people involved in this clusterfuck.
 
This doesn't pertain to the recent season at all, but the more I think about it the more I think Rhaegar Targaryen was an absolute dick.
like
>is a grown ass married man with children
>mad because wifey can't give you a third kid
>runs off with a teenage girl and doesn't tell anybody that you didn't kidnap her
>this leads to her father and brother being brutally tortured and murdered by your dad because he's fucking bonkers
>never tells teenage girl about this
>shithitsthefan.jpg
>it's spiraled into a full-blown rebellion
>decide to annul your marriage to wifey leaving your two children bastards
>marries teenage girl in not-wifey's homeland because fuck her I guess
>gets teenage girl pregnant and locks her in a tower a thousand miles away from her family and never tells her family that she's okay
>has to be dragged back to the war started because of your dumb ass by your dad two whole years into it
>gets killed in like your first battle by a dude wearing antlers on his helmet because you think wearing a ruby-encrusted ceremonial breastplate is more important than actual goddamn armor
And somehow, years later the all-seeing all-knowing three eyed raven and the supposedly intelligent dwarf (who was alive around Robert's Rebellion) comes to the conclusion that the entire debacle started because of Robert's unrequited love, with both of these individuals somehow forgetting multiple other factors such as Rhaegar and Lyanna running off, Rhaegar not telling shit to anybody, Aerys killing Ned's father and brother, Aerys demanding Ned and Robert, etc.. And yet its Bobby B's one-sided romance that sparked it all
 
This doesn't pertain to the recent season at all, but the more I think about it the more I think Rhaegar Targaryen was an absolute dick.
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>is a grown ass married man with children
>mad because wifey can't give you a third kid
>runs off with a teenage girl and doesn't tell anybody that you didn't kidnap her
>this leads to her father and brother being brutally tortured and murdered by your dad because he's fucking bonkers
>never tells teenage girl about this
>shithitsthefan.jpg
>it's spiraled into a full-blown rebellion
>decide to annul your marriage to wifey leaving your two children bastards
>marries teenage girl in not-wifey's homeland because fuck her I guess
>gets teenage girl pregnant and locks her in a tower a thousand miles away from her family and never tells her family that she's okay
>has to be dragged back to the war started because of your dumb ass by your dad two whole years into it
>gets killed in like your first battle by a dude wearing antlers on his helmet because you think wearing a ruby-encrusted ceremonial breastplate is more important than actual goddamn armor

Props to Pedro Pascal for saying "beautiful, noble Rhaegar Targaryen" in exactly the same tone of voice you'd describe a raging case of genital warts.
 
And somehow, years later the all-seeing all-knowing three eyed raven and the supposedly intelligent dwarf (who was alive around Robert's Rebellion) comes to the conclusion that the entire debacle started because of Robert's unrequited love, with both of these individuals somehow forgetting multiple other factors such as Rhaegar and Lyanna running off, Rhaegar not telling shit to anybody, Aerys killing Ned's father and brother, Aerys demanding Ned and Robert, etc.. And yet its Bobby B's one-sided romance that sparked it all
To be fair Brandon storming into the throne room of the king already known for being batshit calling for the prince to come out and die was kind of asking for it.
 
To be fair Brandon storming into the throne room of the king already known for being batshit calling for the prince to come out and die was kind of asking for it.
And it's not as if it was just down the road, either, he had to travel all the way from the clucking north. This was the plan you came up with? Just run up to the king and demand his son's head? Try this shit with any king, even the "good" ones, hell try it with a democratically elected head of state! Guess what happens - you getting fucked.

A lot of the not-seen events happened to make a dramatic backstory, not because it makes sense. And it shows. This was a golden opportunity to showcase how propaganda biases different viewpoints towards the "truth" that benefits them, a very poignant theme in a civil war. But GURM didn't. The only hint of this is with Tyrion and him interacting with people that think the hand is a monkey demon, or the hilariously inaccurate play in Braavos.

He's too busy writing about baseball!

Autism Edit: It just struck me that fucking Chris Chan has more goddamn restraint than Brandon Stark. He waited to slander Mary Lee Walsh until she had him dragged into her office. More sense than the Dingaling of the North.
 
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Jon is send to the wall to be part of the Nightswatch, but what exactly are they doing? The Wildlings apparently went back north past the wall instead of settling in the much more hospitable and fertile lands close to Castle Black, however they are friends of the Nightswatch now, so what is Jon going to do for the rest of his life? What are all the other remaining Nightswatch people doing? Is that addressed in the show?
 
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Jon is send to the wall to be part of the Nightswatch, but what exactly are they doing? The Wildlings apparently went back north past the wall instead of settling in the much more hospitable and fertile lands close to Castle Black, however they are friends of the Nightswatch now, so what is Jon going to do for the rest of his life? What are all the other remaining Nightswatch people doing? Is that addressed in the show?

Freezing their bollocks off and fucking each other in the ass to stay warm.
 
Freezing their bollocks off and fucking each other in the ass to stay warm.
Does the show really not address this? With the peace made by wildlings and "kneelers" and the threat of the White Walkers gone, there is no reason to keep the wall or the Nightswatch around at all. Especially since there's like what? 3 guys left and that's counting Samwell Tarly and Jon, too?
 
Does the show really not address this? With the peace made by wildlings and "kneelers" and the threat of the White Walkers gone, there is no reason to keep the wall or the Nightswatch around at all. Especially since there's like what? 3 guys left and that's counting Samwell Tarly and Jon, too?
By season 8 the world outside of Winterfell and King's Landing may as well not exist. Nothing outside of the bare minimum plot beats to wrap the series up gets addressed, the fate of the Night's Watch included. My headcanon is the Wildlings went north again because that's the world they know (there are still natives living in Nunavut and Lapland, so this isn't unheard of), and Jon took the black only to forsake his vows, yet again, and go be King Beyond the Wall. The Wildlings think he's a god so it's not unreasonable they'd keep him as their king. What remaining builders for the Watch are going to spend the next few decades on the massive undertaking of repairing Eastwatch-by-the-Sea, and taking the black remains Westeros' jobs program for petty criminals and dishonored nobles, protecting the realm from grumpkins and snarks just as it was before the series began.
 
And it's not as if it was just down the road, either, he had to travel all the way from the clucking north. This was the plan you came up with? Just run up to the king and demand his son's head? Try this shit with any king, even the "good" ones, hell try it with a democratically elected head of state! Guess what happens - you getting fucked.

A lot of the not-seen events happened to make a dramatic backstory, not because it makes sense. And it shows. This was a golden opportunity to showcase how propaganda biases different viewpoints towards the "truth" that benefits them, a very poignant theme in a civil war. But GURM didn't. The only hint of this is with Tyrion and him interacting with people that think the hand is a monkey demon, or the hilariously inaccurate play in Braavos.

He's too busy writing about baseball!

Autism Edit: It just struck me that fucking Chris Chan has more goddamn restraint than Brandon Stark. He waited to slander Mary Lee Walsh until she had him dragged into her office. More sense than the Dingaling of the North.
I dunno, real historical figures could be pretty politically retarded. See virtually every Scottish leader except Robert the Bruce.
 
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This doesn't pertain to the recent season at all, but the more I think about it the more I think Rhaegar Targaryen was an absolute dick.
like
>is a grown ass married man with children
>mad because wifey can't give you a third kid
>runs off with a teenage girl and doesn't tell anybody that you didn't kidnap her
>this leads to her father and brother being brutally tortured and murdered by your dad because he's fucking bonkers
>never tells teenage girl about this
>shithitsthefan.jpg
>it's spiraled into a full-blown rebellion
>decide to annul your marriage to wifey leaving your two children bastards
>marries teenage girl in not-wifey's homeland because fuck her I guess
>gets teenage girl pregnant and locks her in a tower a thousand miles away from her family and never tells her family that she's okay
>has to be dragged back to the war started because of your dumb ass by your dad two whole years into it
>gets killed in like your first battle by a dude wearing antlers on his helmet because you think wearing a ruby-encrusted ceremonial breastplate is more important than actual goddamn armor
He is the biggest asshole in the whole asoiaf. I have no idea why the show writers decided to make him look like a hero.

He deserves that hammer in the chest if you ask me.
 
Jon is send to the wall to be part of the Nightswatch, but what exactly are they doing? The Wildlings apparently went back north past the wall instead of settling in the much more hospitable and fertile lands close to Castle Black, however they are friends of the Nightswatch now, so what is Jon going to do for the rest of his life? What are all the other remaining Nightswatch people doing? Is that addressed in the show?
There's no Night's Watch anymore, it's a fake punishment. They just sent him North with his last few friends so he can live in peace away from the festering shit-pile that is Westeros.
 
Jon is send to the wall to be part of the Nightswatch, but what exactly are they doing? The Wildlings apparently went back north past the wall instead of settling in the much more hospitable and fertile lands close to Castle Black, however they are friends of the Nightswatch now, so what is Jon going to do for the rest of his life? What are all the other remaining Nightswatch people doing? Is that addressed in the show?
I heard a theory that the White Walkers will return in the future, which is what the leak said before any of it was confirmed, and it was strengthened by D&D's reluctance to confirm whether or not the Night King is finally dead. I can't think of a bigger asspull if this was true.
 
When i look at it now, the north as a whole is one of the most exceptional areas in Westeros. The've been craving independence since season 1 and while I can give a pass to the first time, since they were at full power, their warden killed and his daughter is taken hostage, and the fact that every-time a Stark travels south bad shit happens, them pulling the same shit at the end of season 6 is just dumb. They think the "king of the north" shit will work again despite the fact that at this point in the story, one house is completely extinguished, their forces were diminished by the war of the five kings and the northern civil war, winter is coming, darth maul is going to invade, and that their strongest forces aren't even from the north. Then, when their king brings Daenerys in to help with the zombie infestation, these idiots are more worried about Jon not being king than the giant gaping hole in the wall and thousands of undead shuffling in (one of the houses even straight up leaves). And after a battle that killed off like three more northern houses and another half of their forces gone, they go into another battle that killed off a small portion of their forces. In the end, they somehow get their independence in the end, despite the fact that they probably have only about 2-3 thousand men at best, their food supplies are most likely diminished from the war, and that the current king of the seven kingdoms is a Stark. So by the end of the series, four houses are extinct (to be fair, the boltons had it coming), there's four empty castles, military is too weak to defend against invaders (the seven kingdoms at least still has dorne and part of the reach to rely on), and the north seceding means the seven (six) kingdoms aren't entitled to giving any aid (though the north might get aid because of Sansa's connections with Bran, at least 3-4 regions are also in dire need of assistance, having been ravaged by war as well)

TL;DR the north is full of idiots only rivaled by the ironborn
 
When i look at it now, the north as a whole is one of the most exceptional areas in Westeros. The've been craving independence since season 1 and while I can give a pass to the first time, since they were at full power, their warden killed and his daughter is taken hostage, and the fact that every-time a Stark travels south bad shit happens, them pulling the same shit at the end of season 6 is just dumb. They think the "king of the north" shit will work again despite the fact that at this point in the story, one house is completely extinguished, their forces were diminished by the war of the five kings and the northern civil war, winter is coming, darth maul is going to invade, and that their strongest forces aren't even from the north. Then, when their king brings Daenerys in to help with the zombie infestation, these idiots are more worried about Jon not being king than the giant gaping hole in the wall and thousands of undead shuffling in (one of the houses even straight up leaves). And after a battle that killed off like three more northern houses and another half of their forces gone, they go into another battle that killed off a small portion of their forces. In the end, they somehow get their independence in the end, despite the fact that they probably have only about 2-3 thousand men at best, their food supplies are most likely diminished from the war, and that the current king of the seven kingdoms is a Stark. So by the end of the series, four houses are extinct (to be fair, the boltons had it coming), there's four empty castles, military is too weak to defend against invaders (the seven kingdoms at least still has dorne and part of the reach to rely on), and the north seceding means the seven (six) kingdoms aren't entitled to giving any aid (though the north might get aid because of Sansa's connections with Bran, at least 3-4 regions are also in dire need of assistance, having been ravaged by war as well)

TL;DR the north is full of idiots only rivaled by the ironborn
To be fair, D&D just kinda forgot the political implications of all this. I mean it's not like the show was ever about politics and intrigue, right? Just tits and dragons and zombies and dick jokes.
 
When you give hackfrauds like D&D a vague outline, this is what happens. Shit happens, but it doesn't connect or segue into another, it just happens apropos of nothing, with most of the narrative being taken up by out of place garbage like tits and dragons and zombies and dick jokes. Or starbucks cups.

Also, I haven't watched anything except the season 8 garbage fire but I did read the books, did anything happen with the Dorne plot at all? Just itty bitty sand snake tittty's?
 
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