General GunTuber thread

Russ has been a friend of Karl's for a good deal longer than Karl's descent into idiocy. Between that and their current business entanglements, you get this whole situation.
Sinistral's attitude of "Anything For The Shekels" is so repulsively jewish that I have a hard believing that he doesn't have a Shlomo Coinblattsteingbergwitzman in his family tree.

That retarded faggot would sell his own grandmother to a rape gang of wild niggers for a shiny nickel.
 
Sinistral's attitude of "Anything For The Shekels" is so repulsively jewish that I have a hard believing that he doesn't have a Shlomo Coinblattsteingbergwitzman in his family tree.

That retarded faggot would sell his own grandmother to a rape gang of wild niggers for a shiny nickel.
That rape gang has 2A rights too!
 
I know soldiers want people they shoot to fall over ASAP, but has anyone tried to study how much that matters as to the soldiers getting shot back? I know in the Korean war people complained about the .30 carbine for that reason, but an improved .30 carbine with better magazines would probably get less soldiers killed than switching to an M14 without any real training. I think you would get a similar or even worse problem trying to get normal soldiers using the AKM today, because you have to rock in the magazines.
A better mag for the M1 would help tremendously. Those things were basically disposable at the end of the day; having the guys at Wilson combat or something revamp that would probably improve performance overnight. Remember, 30 carbine has as much power at 100 yards as 357 at the muzzle; power ain't the issue, reliability and getting rounds down range is.

As for the AKM, there's plenty of guys in the AK camp that swear by rock and lock lol. It's different but can be adapted to.
 
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It's widely believed that soldiers in Korea complained about the M2 Carbine because they did not understand that holding the trigger down was somewhat detrimental to accuracy.
Most of the guys weren't even aiming or using their sights either. 37% of guys in combat in Korea admitted to never having used their sights once in combat.
 

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Since I just found the arfcom thread about Karl downthread I have been going through it, what a ride. Floridacop is a proper little shitstirrer. 😘

KF even got a few shoutouts in there:

More shoutouts also shitting on Karl:

A better worded version of the first shoutout:

The fact that it appears to have caused KE to pull out of the arfcom industry forum the night of December 22nd is even funnier.

Karl Kasada also shows up again on the last page to post, on Christmas, a "Merry Christmas" post with that InRangeTV video posted earlier in this thread, and a bunch of words claiming the haters are all wrong, of course. :story:

The guncows can be a slow burn but hot damn when things pop.

Whole thread, by page, though it's being posted in even as of today. Just in case.
1 https://archive.vn/rQywJ
2 https://archive.vn/bTUhY
3 https://archive.vn/WZU3U
4 https://archive.vn/5DWdO
5 https://archive.vn/2vXbJ
6 https://archive.vn/ANiKZ
7 https://archive.vn/84Ekf
8 https://archive.vn/IoEUc
9 https://archive.vn/LPm0D
10 https://archive.vn/xvpZ2
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12 https://archive.vn/EhxNC
13 https://archive.vn/Iga6z
 
I know in the Korean war people complained about the .30 carbine for that reason, but an improved .30 carbine with better magazines would probably get less soldiers killed than switching to an M14 without any real training.
The M1/M2 Carbines themselves together with the .30 Carbine cartridge would have you outranged by AKMs, so together with the not very good magazines I would foresee a lot of getting raped any time you get engaged past its modest 200yd effective range.

Most of the guys weren't even aiming or using their sights either. 37% of guys in combat in Korea admitted to never having used their sights once in combat.
Did not know it was as bad as that, but yes, a lot of the issues is just plain not hitting at all. On the M2 Carbine, the light weight, dropped stock, and high cyclic rate all make it a bit intense in full-auto fire, and having heard of many people trying to use the full-auto at extended ranges in said conflict, I imagine most never scoring a hit trying to shoot a Communist moving somewhere in the distance. .30 Carbine also is just not a powerhouse at long range, so even scoring a hit is likely to produce lacking results.

The carbine was great for CQB (especially in WW2 where most opponents had bolt-action rifles), and it would as designed give support personnel some kind of fighting chance or an attempt to cover an escape if they had the misfortune of bumping into a stray enemy, but in the infantry rifle role it's about as versatile as the FN P90, as in not, and I think that's what actually shows about its misuse in the Korean War. (I've genuinely seen people argue passionately/angrily that not only would the M2 have made a competitive 'assault rifle' if employed as such, I've heard people argue the P90 should replace the M4A1)
 
The M1/M2 Carbines themselves together with the .30 Carbine cartridge would have you outranged by AKMs, so together with the not very good magazines I would foresee a lot of getting raped any time you get engaged past its modest 200yd effective range.


Did not know it was as bad as that, but yes, a lot of the issues is just plain not hitting at all. On the M2 Carbine, the light weight, dropped stock, and high cyclic rate all make it a bit intense in full-auto fire, and having heard of many people trying to use the full-auto at extended ranges in said conflict, I imagine most never scoring a hit trying to shoot a Communist moving somewhere in the distance. .30 Carbine also is just not a powerhouse at long range, so even scoring a hit is likely to produce lacking results.

The carbine was great for CQB (especially in WW2 where most opponents had bolt-action rifles), and it would as designed give support personnel some kind of fighting chance or an attempt to cover an escape if they had the misfortune of bumping into a stray enemy, but in the infantry rifle role it's about as versatile as the FN P90, as in not, and I think that's what actually shows about its misuse in the Korean War. (I've genuinely seen people argue passionately/angrily that not only would the M2 have made a competitive 'assault rifle' if employed as such, I've heard people argue the P90 should replace the M4A1)

I've shot a real deal F/A P90 and it's wicked fun.
Great for the PDW stuff it was designed for I believe but otherwise it doesn't come close to the overall capabilities of the M4.
 
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The M1/M2 Carbines had the misfortune in WW2 of being press-ganged into frontline use by regular soldiers who didn't want to carry the Garand. Not really a problem in urban or jungle combat where range wasn't a major factor. Korea it was more of a case of what was still available and on hand for U.S. forces in Japan and elsewhere in East Asia. As the U.S. government had immediately after WWII ended started shit canning everything military related right up to when the Norks started making their move on South Korea.
 
it would as designed give support personnel some kind of fighting chance or an attempt to cover an escape if they had the misfortune of bumping into a stray enemy
Yeah, I can definitely see how someone like an RTO or assistant gunner would probably appreciate it. I'd wager only having a sidearm in a hot zone sucks, but I'm sure carrying a Garand plus extra 06 on top of all the shit you're already carrying is just the pits.
 
I didn't even realize how much of a difference better ergonomics would make in my shooting; before I found something with the right kind of special sauce, which fit my hands & the way my eyes work.
Until one of these happened:
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Before I picked up a Steyr M9, I always struggled with anything Glock, S&W, 1911... and nearly everything else I'd ever handled. At the least I could never keep a consistent sight-picture & landing follow-up shots was a chore, and at worst I'd quickly stop shooting to save myself the embarrassment.
I've had a L9 on my pickup list for a while. Very pleasant pistol to shoot.
 
Yeah, I can definitely see how someone like an RTO or assistant gunner would probably appreciate it. I'd wager only having a sidearm in a hot zone sucks, but I'm sure carrying a Garand plus extra 06 on top of all the shit you're already carrying is just the pits.
That's the core concept. The M1 and M1A1 were long and very heavy, so carrying that shit all the time which you were unlikely to actually have to use would be annoying and takes up guns which the grunts could be using, while having only a sidearm (which is limited at best past close ranges even if you're actually good with it), leaves you shit out of luck if you actually do get into a firefight. It's essentially the PDW before H&K and FN Herstal marketed the MP7 and P90 with that moniker.
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I'm thinking that since the M1 ended up being used a lot by actual infantry for CQB, that's one of those things which inspired the later retrofit and its own M4 bayonet. Possibly also the M8 grenade launcher (almost a scaled down M7 launcher), not sure when that came around, or if it was ever issued or used by support personnel. The M8 doesn't appear to have any functionality for adjusting or shutting off the gas, and the carbine itself has no such feature on its own that I'm aware of, so I wonder if the grenades were harsh on the gun and not used often, good pictures of it are difficult to find.
Because of the bayonet, this photo of the guys in the alley I assume is from very late in the Pacific campaign or sometime during Korea.
 
The M1/M2 Carbines themselves together with the .30 Carbine cartridge would have you outranged by AKMs, so together with the not very good magazines I would foresee a lot of getting raped any time you get engaged past its modest 200yd effective range.
That was the whole impetus behind the small caliber high velocity solicitation (SCHV) the army had in the late 1950's. If you look at the requirements there's a lot of reference to the M1 carbine. The weight requirement was 6 lbs loaded (M1 carbine loaded weight), the length desirable target was 35.6 inches (M1 Carbine's length), the effective range was 500 yards of helmet penetration (so there would be no ambiguity like with the M1 carbine and far enough that no one would complain), and it would be more than the "300" on the M1 carbine. Funny enough there's some suggestion that the Marines push for the M16A2 and the M855 was out of a fear of the AK-74 outranging the M16A1 (from initial CIA FOMCAT estimates) and they simply hopped on the more euro-centric SS109/M855 standardization which had a significantly higher effective range in terms of helmet penetration. What's also interesting is that the M1 carbine ballistically is almost identical to a Rattler firing .300 BLK. Using a 110 gr. .30 cal projectile both end up with just under 2000 fps and have similar effective ranges.
 
That was the whole impetus behind the small caliber high velocity solicitation (SCHV) the army had in the late 1950's.
Right. Didn't Melvin Johnson try to pitch his 5.7mm MMJ cartridge for that? .30 Carbine necked down to .22 caliber, with Plainfield Machine providing M2 Carbines chambered for it.
 
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Almost certainly it had been done. But with the .30 Carbine being 33mm straight case really limited its usefulness. If it had a bottleneck case like the 7.93 Kurz, probably more could've been done with it. Frankly if the .30 Carbine had been around 35mm to 39mm length it or its daughter cartridge(s) may still be in U.S. military service. As is the 33mm provenance have been at the higher end of magnum revolver cartridge lengths prior to WWII. .30 Carbine was the odd man out being a rimless instead of a rimmed cartridge if looked at it without knowledge of its history.
 
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I'm more waiting for the next election, where the media blows up police shooting some Tyrone von Jamalson who was out on parole after raping (most of) his nieces and currently suspected of raping his nephew, and the nephew's cat, an overall burden on his family and community who ideally should have died instead of just being wounded.
I can see some SRA types thinking that this is their next opportunity, or someone deciding that they're going to be the left wing equivalent of whatever the hell they interpret Kyle Rittenhouse as.
 
Is it 100% proven that was his wife? Because if so L fucking MAO she's an ugly fucker. I can see why he likes trannies if thats the sort of dog he was willing to lay in the first place.
Edit: im bad at arfcom/forums. Is the picture claimed to be Karl's wife/ex wife confirmed? I tried to reply to that but failed.
 
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