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Rent Tin said:
I also have absolutely zero clue why he is pleading guilty. There's literally no reason I can think of to ever plead guilty.
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Reducing your potential sentence is the obvious one:
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That's from the federal sentencing guidelines, and that's not even taking into account an actual plea deal with the prosecutor where you might be able to get charges dismissed, or plead out to a lower offence with shorter potential punishments.
 
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Rent Tin said:
No, I haven't because I'm not a boomer retard that actively conspires to break the law through SMS.
The Fed's case must have been bulletproof if he decided to just give up any chance of a defense.
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He’s a 60 year old man who just completed chemo. He probably didn’t want to spend the rest of his life fighting a case and expects to get some sort of lenient treatment for pleading guilty.
 
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Buttigieg2020 said:
He’s a 60 year old man who just completed chemo. He probably didn’t want to spend the rest of his life fighting a case and expects to get some sort of lenient treatment for pleading guilty.
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Rest of his life and rest of his money*
Rent Tin said:
There's literally no reason I can think of to ever plead guilty.
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There are plenty of reasons to plead guilty, generally related to the amount of money you have at your disposal and what the prosecution is offering you compared to what you could get if you go to trial. What's better? Spending 6 months in jail or spending $200,000 and maybe not going to jail for 10 years? A lot of people will just take the plea deal, even when they could get off from all of the charges with a decent legal team. Going to trial is always a crap shoot, and there is always some chance that you could get convicted even if you're completely innocent.

A lot of people also plead guilty because they're guilty and want to face the least possible amount of punishment, and pleading out is generally the best or at least easiest way to achieve that.
 
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These last few years really haven't been the best for Vickers, and it's not going to get any better by the looks of it. The 'guntuber goes to federal prison for NFA violations' career finale has always been an occurrence too frequent for my taste. In retrospect, i must wonder if him 'letting his SOT wither away' was somehow related to this.
 
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August Levasseur said:
A lot of people also plead guilty because they're guilty and want to face the least possible amount of punishment, and pleading out is generally the best or at least easiest way to achieve that.
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Vickers dun goofed so I think we can safely say his lawyer looked at the evidence in discovery, looked at him, sighed, and went "this isn't looking good, buddy".

Seriously, I know the guy is a boomer, but where is opsec?
 
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prolapsed_cranium said:
They were doing the Demo Letter scam, fucking around with imports and violating the Russia sanctions
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Don't be a dumb nigger and text about committing crimes....and then don't show off your illegal merch to get YouTube likes.
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I really wonder if part of the reason he's been so thoroughly fucked (besides fucking himself), is who he's been dealing with in Russia. If he's been doing deals with sanctioned individuals (or their proxies) that'd be even more lulzy, and the list of unindicted co-conspirators might be pretty interesting.
 
August Levasseur said:
There are plenty of reasons to plead guilty, generally related to the amount of money you have at your disposal and what the prosecution is offering you compared to what you could get if you go to trial. What's better? Spending 6 months in jail or spending $200,000 and maybe not going to jail for 10 years?
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CRS firearms scoffed at the idea that the ATF actually wins 98%+ of the cases that go to trial. I can see fighting it on principle if you're old and no kids. BS charges, BS total story.

Federal juries basically just rubber stamp guilty in these situations.
 
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mlanguishi said:
CRS firearms scoffed at the idea that the ATF actually wins 98%+ of the cases that go to trial. I can see fighting it on principle if you're old and no kids. BS charges, BS total story.

Federal juries basically just rubber stamp guilty in these situations.
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I think ppl that try to quote statistics about cases that actually go to trial completely miss the idea that maybe a huge amount of the people who had no chance at court took a plea deal and so never made it to court.
I wonder if, in situations like CRS' case, it would be better to try for a bench trial instead of trusting a jury to not be swayed by ATF's BS?
 
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A few days ago, the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation has produced a publication claiming to be shedding light into the persona and backstory of Jstark1809, a rather prominent former character in the 3D-printed firearms scene. While the first thing one would probably note is the succinct fragrance of a smear piece when reading the article, the recognition and indexing of potential 'anonymous' posts of his on various boards on 4chan intrigues me the most.

 
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Rose Breeder said:
A few days ago, the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation has produced a publication claiming to shedding light into the persona and backstory of Jstark1809, a rather prominent former character in the 3D-printed firearms scene. While the first thing one would probably note is the succinct fragrance of a smear piece when reading the article, the recognition and indexing of potential 'anonymous' posts of his on various boards on 4chan intrigues me the most.

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LMAO at their pathetic “linguistic analysis”. The things they picked out (capital I at beginning of the sentence, lowercase i elsewhere) are just symptoms of phoneposting. I guess every Germanon phoneposter is JStark then. The total lack of non-name/tripfag /k/ posts (likely because /k/ doesn’t show flags) shows that they’re just making stuff up.

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Rose Breeder said:
A few days ago, the International Centre for the Study of Radicalisation has produced a publication claiming to shedding light into the persona and backstory of Jstark1809, a rather prominent former character in the 3D-printed firearms scene. While the first thing one would probably note is the succinct fragrance of a smear piece when reading the article, the recognition and indexing of potential 'anonymous' posts of his on various boards on 4chan intrigues me the most.

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Imagine going to such lengths to defame a dead man. What disgusting creatures.
 
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Overpriced Osama said:
Tinfoil hat time. The promotion of psychedelics to right wingers and vets smells like a de-radicalization strategy. Keep hearing the same stories from vets who went. "My anxiety is better but I lost my capacity for anger entirely. If my wife cheated I wouldn't even care anymore". That isn't healthy either.
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It makes me wonder what MK Ultra bullshit they do in these programs. Like, I ate plenty of mushrooms in my young and wild days and it didn't do any of that shit to me
 
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