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The military is not your most likely opponent in most SHTF scenarios. They're a potential opponent but not the most likely. You're more likely to be dealing with looters or people who don't feel like starving to death.
I'm not mad that tactical guntube exists or anything but I don't see much utility for preppers in listening to GWAT door kickers. Not saying citizens shouldn't look for info from the military but the recce side of it is way more applicable to civil breakdown. Be as good as you can but the real shit is that if it goes down and you are smart you are going to be sneaking around avoiding people you don't know like the plague.
Buy NODs before a plate carrier yo.
Also remember what Hop said (and probably some other people said too)... Instead of looking at photos and videos, ask what the guys would've wanted, or look at what they could've used.

We see all this stuff from Ukraine, is that the gear they would really want? That's what they fucking have.
 
Buy NODs before a plate carrier yo.
Ehh, it depends. If you live in or very close to an urban area, I think getting good plates and a carrier, or concealable soft armor, is worth it in case we see another summer 2020 kind of situation again. For people in rural areas or towns decently away from urban hellholes, putting plate/carrier money toward NODs (and/or thermals) might very well be the smarter choice. It's very easy for ne'er-do-wells to acquire armor that's cheap and mostly works. NODs and thermals, on the other hand, are exceedingly rare in the hands of those kinds of people. Better for you to see them when they can't see you.
 

Suppressors and knowing who you are with are the shit, helps if you are not supporting imperialistic cunts

Know what you are doing

What I mean is that these guys know how to work as a group, which is the most important part.

I wonder if any of them are still alive
 

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If in the fantastical event that government control collapses night vision equipment would be very useful for hunting game. Most of the game worth shooting for food is crepuscular, active before dawn and in the twilight hours and in the dusk and just after night fall.

in many cases animals may become completely nocturnal to avoid human contact. Bears are a prime example of this, in the wilderness and rural areas they are mostly Diurnal (active during the daylight hours). Pressured deer during season also tend to move at night.
 
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Suppressors and knowing who you are with are the shit, helps if you are not supporting imperialistic cunts

Know what you are doing

What I mean is that these guys know how to work as a group, which is the most important part.

I wonder if any of them are still alive
I saw this footage when it first came out. Those guys are well trained. QCB in general sucks, but inside a tight trench maze is nightmare fuel, especially with the smoke obscuring shit only a few feet in front of them. Russki at 1:39 apparently never considered checking his corners.
 
I saw this footage when it first came out. Those guys are well trained. QCB in general sucks, but inside a tight trench maze is nightmare fuel, especially with the smoke obscuring shit only a few feet in front of them. Russki at 1:39 apparently never considered checking his corners.
It's fucking awful. I remember when doing some CQB training in a MOUT house, suddenly one of our officers had entered the building from a section we knew wasn't cleared to observe and I blasted him with blanks first thing I saw entering the room. He was fine with it, it was more his fault when considering the mission profile.

But I still wonder if that would've been a real world scenario. A hostile house with enemies inside. That could've been a civilian, and I just blasted him. I had no consideration for if that was a friendly or an enemy, my first instinct was to kill it. For my defence, I was merely a conscript on my 4th or 5th month of service, what do you expect. But that puts into perspective what SWAT and others have to deal with during peace time. For them that split second of hesitation might get them killed. But I guess they already know that the first guy in the stack is sacrificial anyway

So imagine that Russian soldier, who has no idea what's going on. He probably thought they had that part of the trench cleared. Even if he had checked that corner, he would've been clipped by the prepared Ukrainian SOF.
 
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Now that the French government is interested in buying Indian-made weapons and vehicles for the French military. Will Ian do a forgotten weapons video on that shit pajeet AK and FAL clones famous for Jamming?
 
Yeah, best case scenario for the Russki is he turns that corner quick to clear, and they both shoot each other. He was going to die no matter what, but he could've had a chance to get a shot or two off on the Ukie if he'd had his wits about him.
If he turned there's a chance he takes it in the plate and makes it. It looks like he got shot in the arm hole.

I'm surprised that the Ukies aren't throwing way more grenades. I think that would be my preference if I had to do that.
 
But I guess they already know that the first guy in the stack is sacrificial anyway
Isn't that really anyone on a battlefield anyway?

I'm surprised that the Ukies aren't throwing way more grenades. I think that would be my preference if I had to do that.
Grenades don't seem to be all that common from watching the war these past couple of years. When they do get used, they seemed to be used to rather minor effect, or used very poorly. I'm not sure if its the grenades their using, the lack of training everyone seems to have regardless of side, or if proper use just isn't making into the videos for someone safe in his home on the other side of the world to arm chair general about.
 
Grenades don't seem to be all that common from watching the war these past couple of years. When they do get used, they seemed to be used to rather minor effect, or used very poorly. I'm not sure if its the grenades their using, the lack of training everyone seems to have regardless of side, or if proper use just isn't making into the videos for someone safe in his home on the other side of the world to arm chair general about.
Soviet F1 grenades have a reputation as shitty and underpowered.
 
The military is not your most likely opponent in most SHTF scenarios. They're a potential opponent but not the most likely. You're more likely to be dealing with looters or people who don't feel like starving to death.
I'm not mad that tactical guntube exists or anything but I don't see much utility for preppers in listening to GWAT door kickers. Not saying citizens shouldn't look for info from the military but the recce side of it is way more applicable to civil breakdown. Be as good as you can but the real shit is that if it goes down and you are smart you are going to be sneaking around avoiding people you don't know like the plague.
Buy NODs before a plate carrier yo.
Remember 99.5% who watch it are retards, and out of guntubers 99.5% are retards. I'll take my plates over shit NV (assuming same price) any day. If you want to spend money on optics over armor, get a NON digital thermal.

It's way easier to dig a hole and sleep all night, also free (ok you need a shovel) when most retards in ww3/cw2 will be active in day. Living from a shot from your plate is a lot better. IMHO.
 
Forgive me I put things backwards. I think? I dunno, I played with a starlight scope that's my exp.
In that case I have an autism drop for you.

Analog NV:
Gen 0 (1930ish)
Zero light amplification. Requires supplemental IR light to see at all.

Gen 1 (1960ish)
1000-3000 times light amplification. Supplemental light not required depending on weather conditions and ambient light. IR light used a majority of the time.

Gen 2 (1970ish)
5000-10,000 times light amplification. Supplemental light almost never required. IR light is used primarily to help identify targets.

Gen 3 (1990ish-Current)
20,000-80,000 times light amplification. IR light is rarely used to help identify targets at distances of around 100 meters or more.

Digital night vision:
It's basically a camera with the IR light filter removed. It can be used to see in the dark but is closer to gen 1 than Gen 2 performance wise as long as there is above 40% illumination from the moon. Below that and you can't see shit without supplemental IR light.

Thermal:
It sees heat energy radiated from anything. It's not useful for walking around and can't see through glass so there's no way to drive from it. There isn't distinct generations but a good rule of thumb is the larger the sensor resolution and the larger the objective lens the clearer the image will be and the farther you'll be able to see.

Gen 2 should be off the table due to the fact it costs almost as much as gen 3. Gen 0 is historic units only. Gen 1 is still made and can be halfway decent depending on the unit but it's cost varies wildly. I'd only recommend it for fucking around with. Gen 3 is where it's at if you expect to fight anyone. Expect to pay $1500+ for a used gen 3 pvs-14
 
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