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Anyone follow the Royal Tiger Imports saga?
Only because I wanted a cheap and ruined rifle to bubba, but I didn't care to support them after seeing testimonials/reviews.
They'll continue to make bank off of desperate retards and those unfortunate enough to have missed the milsurp boom.
 
I don't know how we could expect African cave rifles to be anything but fucked up, but they do seem to be a little less than forthcoming about the condition of those guns. I forgot that RTI was also IO. Didn't they also make ARs that would sheer bolt lugs and bugle uppers like they were going out of style?
 
I don't know how we could expect African cave rifles to be anything but fucked up, but they do seem to be a little less than forthcoming about the condition of those guns. I forgot that RTI was also IO. Didn't they also make ARs that would sheer bolt lugs and bugle uppers like they were going out of style?
Yep.
 
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I want to see one of those rifles going full pipebomb with normal surplus ammo.

Not on anyone's face, just on a bench rest or something. That ought to make some nice shrapnel.
 
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I really hate to be that guy but these are imports of 70+ year old rifles from a dirt poor country that got them for peanuts (after they had been well used in WWII) and then used them as active duty military rifles for the next few decades, all the while they were being handled by Africans. These guns had no chance of being good, although the prices RTI wanted for them are insultingly high.

On top of this RTI's name has been mud for a good while now so I don't see why people were surprised by this outcome.
I've never really done any collecting outside of WW2 pistols and most my trading is on forums so I'd never run across them. But yeah with 5 seconds of research I found out to avoid them.

What I'm more surprised about is Ian basically putting his stamp of approval on them. I'm sure at least half of Ian's audience doesn't own a single firearm, let alone a collectible. It must seem nice to get a 200-300 dollar "historical" rifle until you realize no one gives a fuck about Ethiopia and most likely you will receive a paper weight. You'd be better served taking a risk on gunbroker because at least that way you could get a picture of the bore.
 
What I'm more surprised about is Ian basically putting his stamp of approval on them. I'm sure at least half of Ian's audience doesn't own a single firearm, let alone a collectible. It must seem nice to get a 200-300 dollar "historical" rifle until you realize no one gives a fuck about Ethiopia and most likely you will receive a paper weight. You'd be better served taking a risk on gunbroker because at least that way you could get a picture of the bore.
My guess is that he's a bit too starry-eyed about the "historical" part since these rifles have a lot of "provenance", and forgetting the "gun" part.

Me, if I wanted an old "historical" beater, I'd just get another fucking Mosin.
 
God I wish. Russian surplus is so damn expensive compared to its actual usefulness because of gay import laws. I long for the days of $200 post-soviet import rifles.
Not gonna lie, I got mine like 15 years ago. This thing has been with me since before my marriage so I haven't really kept up with the prices since.

Just checked Gunbroker, though. Some pretty spicy starting bids there, so I retract my statement. I now have no idea what I would get for a "historical" beater.
 
Just checked Gunbroker, though. Some pretty spicy starting bids there, so I retract my statement. I now have no idea what I would get for a "historical" beater.
There really isn't any option anymore. The surplus has dried up completely, the parts kits are pretty much all gone and the ones you do find are expensive to the point where building them will cost more than just buying a rifle, and anything newer than 1945 is way too tacticool for most import laws to handle as well as the fact that once again all the available parts and guns have been hoovered up by old fuckers who either bought them new decades ago or who spent their corvette money on Cold War surplus.
 
They're still pretty cheap in Canada. Taking into account inflation and exchange rates you might get one there for around that price. But here in the US we're in an anti-Russia craze so fuck us I guess.
Canada is probably still able to get them cheap because they don't have NORINCO sanctioned, so China can still export stuff to them.
 
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Canada is probably still able to get them cheap because they don't have NORINCO sanctioned, so China can still export stuff to them.
AFAIK they get the real Slavic shit too. I've heard of people getting some sweet deals on Russian made (basically banned to import into the USA now unless you got it from Africa or something) and satellite state weapons.
 
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I don't think the RTI guns will ever be truly collectible unless for a very specific niche. No one wants surplus rifles as a collector with African gobbledy gook markings.
Give it time, Carcanos used to be ignored by anyone not terminally autistic and over the pandemic they've become the new nugget in both that it was cheap and now it isn't - with the massive caveat of there not being good and accessible ammunition.
 
Give it time, Carcanos used to be ignored by anyone not terminally autistic and over the pandemic they've become the new nugget in both that it was cheap and now it isn't - with the massive caveat of there not being good and accessible ammunition.
That's what made the nugget and the SKS (and the late 80's/early 90's Chinese AK's) though, they were decent guns that you could get piles of blasting ammo for for basically nothing.
 
That's what made the nugget and the SKS (and the late 80's/early 90's Chinese AK's) though, they were decent guns that you could get piles of blasting ammo for for basically nothing.
That is. But in our current climate you've also got a constant fear of missing out - FOMO as the kids abbreviate it - which is far superior to any sort of marketing. It inspires buying dumb shit that may or may not disappear in the next year or so regardless of practicality.
 
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