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Nobody can convince me that an adjustable gas block is a good idea. I've seen what happens when you let some dipshit mess with the gas system and it's never good. The only way it ever works is if it's 2 position adjustment with a normal and a fouled setting. Anything that reduces the gas is a one way trip to malfunction city.
 
lol….. do you guys have any idea what my tech-support inbox would look like if the WWSD had an adjustable gas block?

It’d be Goldilocks Questions 24/7
Sorry, Russ. If you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen. Hire someone to go through the tech support questions if they annoy you so much you omit useful features from your rifles.

Nobody can convince me that an adjustable gas block is a good idea. I've seen what happens when you let some dipshit mess with the gas system and it's never good. The only way it ever works is if it's 2 position adjustment with a normal and a fouled setting. Anything that reduces the gas is a one way trip to malfunction city.
That's like saying adjustable seats on cars are a bad idea because stoned morons push their seats so far back they can't see the road anymore. More configuration options are good, and idiots doing things wrong with them are none of your concern unless you're one of said idiots.
 
LMAO. Fucking BLUNDERBUSSES??? Do SRAfags really???????
DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT BLUNDERBUSSES
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That's an interesting question. I think Stoner would probably stick with DI for any AR derivative like the SR-25 but I don't know if he would use it in any other design. He didn't use it in his Stoner 62/63 or AR-18 designs.
Because the Stoner 62/63 also had to be an actual machinegun, and the AR15 gas system is inherently awful for that application, as Stoner probably recalled from various experimentation and prototyping. Ever seen a picture of that one belt-fed AR10? It was a colossal hunk of shit.

but I think it's telling that it wasn't really ever used it outside of AR10/15 derivatives.
I don't think it is, considering that the AR10/AR15 is basically the best way to build the action in question. Arguably there's some institutional/economical inertia and people aren't that ready to say, beef up the gas-key and what not and be That Guy who makes his AR15 incompatible with normal parts, but that's not the design's fault.

lol….. do you guys have any idea what my tech-support inbox would look like if the WWSD had an adjustable gas block?

It’d be Goldilocks Questions 24/7
Or you can pre-set it on a marked setting which you know works well with Wolf, Tula, etc, and then tell people to figure out which works best with their preferred ammo.
 
Or you can pre-set it on a marked setting which you know works well with Wolf, Tula, etc, and then tell people to figure out which works best with their preferred ammo.
Your average WWSD user doesn't have time to set their gas settings between prepping their wife's bull and throwing a kettlebell around to train for the Pride Day™ 2GAC match.
 
That's like saying adjustable seats on cars are a bad idea because stoned morons push their seats so far back they can't see the road anymore. More configuration options are good, and idiots doing things wrong with them are none of your concern unless you're one of said idiots.
The analogy of car seats only really works for things like adjustable stocks, we let people adjust controls or seating because everyone has a different body. Can you imagine how fucked every car would be if we put a knob on the dash that let people adjust the air fuel mixture? Or the suspension? You can really fuck up a car by messing with important functions and even make it dangerous.

I do think having some adjustment can be fine for fouled or maybe a suppressor setting but the type granularity the customer says they want is a bad idea. That's all assuming it's a 'fighting rifle', if it's a comp gun then I can understand why you'd want it be if that's the case then they need to rename the rifle to WWInRangeTVD, because it's not the military gun that Stoner designed. It's another boutique comp AR.

Because the Stoner 62/63 also had to be an actual machinegun, and the AR15 gas system is inherently awful for that application, as Stoner probably recalled from various experimentation and prototyping. Ever seen a picture of that one belt-fed AR10? It was a colossal hunk of shit.

I don't think it is, considering that the AR10/AR15 is basically the best way to build the action in question. Arguably there's some institutional/economical inertia and people aren't that ready to say, beef up the gas-key and what not and be That Guy who makes his AR15 incompatible with normal parts, but that's not the design's fault.
Apparently, Stoner moved away from the DI/internal piston system is because Colt owned the rights to it, but I still feel like it's never going to be seen in anything outside of the AR-10/15 and their derivatives (other than that one Korean rifle).

Like 90% of the world current small arms development is centred around short/long stroke gas pistons. There are even piston driven AR's that are just as good as the DI guns and have seen military adoption.
 
Nobody can convince me that an adjustable gas block is a good idea. I've seen what happens when you let some dipshit mess with the gas system and it's never good. The only way it ever works is if it's 2 position adjustment with a normal and a fouled setting. Anything that reduces the gas is a one way trip to malfunction city.
Nobody can convince me that an adjustable stock is a good idea. I've seen what happens when you let some dipshit mess with the stock and it's never good. The only way it ever works is if it's 2 position adjustment with a retracted and an extended length. Anything that reduces the length of pull is a one way trip to malfunction city.

Nobody can convince me that an adjustable ringer volume is a good idea. I've seen what happens when you let some dipshit mess with the volume settings and it's never good. The only way it ever works is if it's 2 position adjustment with a vibration and a ring setting. Anything that reduces the volume is a one way trip to missed call city.
 
Nobody can convince me that an adjustable stock is a good idea. I've seen what happens when you let some dipshit mess with the stock and it's never good. The only way it ever works is if it's 2 position adjustment with a retracted and an extended length. Anything that reduces the length of pull is a one way trip to malfunction city.

Nobody can convince me that an adjustable ringer volume is a good idea. I've seen what happens when you let some dipshit mess with the volume settings and it's never good. The only way it ever works is if it's 2 position adjustment with a vibration and a ring setting. Anything that reduces the volume is a one way trip to missed call city.
A stock is not equivalent to a gas system. One is vital to the function of the gun the other is not. Also, I'm not against giving people options, an adjustable stock for example is a must, but there are aspects to a design that should be left alone.
 
A stock is not equivalent to a gas system. One is vital to the function of the gun the other is not. Also, I'm not against giving people options, an adjustable stock for example is a must, but there are aspects to a design that should be left alone.
An adjustable gas block isn't going to hurt the gun, the worst it will do is make the gun unreliable. But the onus for figuring out how to configure the settings for best operation is on the end user, not the manufacturer, and taking away the ability to make changes from the end user is a terrible slippery slope that gets us iPhones.
 
An adjustable gas block isn't going to hurt the gun, the worst it will do is make the gun unreliable. But the onus for figuring out how to configure the settings for best operation is on the end user, not the manufacturer, and taking away the ability to make changes from the end user is a terrible slippery slope that gets us iPhones.
I'll reiterate that a lot of the trouble can be avoided by providing a pre-marked setting tested to work with most common off the shelf ammo. Label it "General" or something, then if someone complains the rifle isn't running, tell them to try setting it to General and see if it works, if someone wants a "Goldilocks" setting then tell them that because of how ammunition is such a wide variable, they need to discover that themselves based on the ammo they shoot and how it works in their gun.
 
Man, if that coil gun that Ian was testing just moved the trigger mechanism to the side of the gun it could have fit another coil on the underside.
It's really battery + coil-charging that's the hangup. More coils does equal more power, but also more time between shots and fewer shots per charge.
 
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