Global Depression 2022 - Time to do the Breadline Boogaloo!

[NyQuilninja]

@DiscoRodeo
I'm always reminded of that episode of Bob's burgers where he's teaching the kids how to make popcorn

I mean it's astonishing how many adults literally cannot cook like the concept of it. I worked at a restaurant briefly moonlighting. And there was a manager there that couldn't cook eggs because they never had. I'll have to find the article but even making a decent pie in America has become almost a lost art

 

[DiscoRodeo]

@DiscoRodeo
I'm always reminded of that episode of Bob's burgers where he's teaching the kids how to make popcorn

I mean it's astonishing how many adults literally cannot cook like the concept of it. I worked at a restaurant briefly moonlighting. And there was a manager there that couldn't cook eggs because they never had. I'll how to find the article but even making a decent pie in America has become almost a lost art

Wife's sister is the same way, and she manages a B&B that she owns, so has to get a staff member to do it instead. I don't think she can even cook rice. It unironically baffles me that people don't even understand the basics of cooking. Its such an essential part of life, and the easiest way to save money.

I remember when I was more roughing it, people I knew on welfare would run out of money 2 weeks into a payout, and it just baffled me because theyd spend more on food than I did in a month while working, in said weeks.

People really underestimate how much processed food costs and just don't know how to settle for the basics or learn to cook them yourself. Like you find out that someone can't even cook a cheaper steak and has to constantly go to McDonalds instead and you wonder how this person made it out of the 1st grade.

 

[Pokemon Conquistador]

I use box kits to cook way too often, but only because scratch cooking is messy and generates a lot of dishes. Dishes suck, and getting to eliminate the number of dishes I use to cook in is worth the dip in quality.

What I can't understand are people who spend all of their money on DoorDash. I can understand the desire to have someone else cook for you on a day when you're tired, and I can see what a big flex it is to not have to cook at all, but I like my food fresh and hot. Paying twice the price so I can get a soggy bag of cool fried food that had a "deliciousness shelf life" that expired three minutes before I got it is just stupid. I can make my own wrinkled, grease-saturated chicken sandwich and fry up my own fries, thank you very much. And i don't need to leave myself a tip.

 

[NyQuilninja]

I use box kits to cook way too often, but only because scratch cooking is messy and generates a lot of dishes. Dishes suck, and getting to eliminate the number of dishes I use to cook in is worth the dip in quality.

What I can't understand are people who spend all of their money on DoorDash. I can understand the desire to have someone else cook for you on a day when you're tired, and I can see what a big flex it is to not have to cook at all, but I like my food fresh and hot. Paying twice the price so I can get a soggy bag of cool fried food that had a "deliciousness shelf life" that expired three minutes before I got it is just stupid. I can make my own wrinkled, grease-saturated chicken sandwich and fry up my own fries, thank you very much. And i don't need to leave myself a tip.

Tbf french fries are a time-consuming pain in the ass. Involving two days worth of work if you want to get them restaurant quality. Cut rinse soak. Paraboil cool fry once cool then fry again

 

[The best and greatest]

Tomatoes are one of those gifts that keep on giving. And that's an excellent point that you make. More importantly nobody needs to be buying $8 jars of spaghetti sauce. Really I think it's condiments that easily drive up a food budget. especially salad dressing which is another incredibly easy to make item that everybody should have the basic ingredients for. Another one is trimmed up meat deboned chicken things like that. Really isn't too hard to prep it yourself you'll probably save about a dollar or two a pound

If Im feeling lazy I just buy the cheap canned sauce you need an opener for. Where is this 8 dollar jar of sauce? LA?

Try carrots in your tomato sauce.

I've tried this and it works but still not a fan of them being IN the sauce. I'd probably just skin a carrot, throw it in whole and retrieve it after instead if I did this again

YOU'RE BUYING THE WRONG TOMATOES.
listen, use peeled plum tomatoes and mix them with other types, if you're adding sugar to your tomatoes I'm imagining you in a trailerpark and eating buttered noodles on a weekly basis.

TIRED A' YOU FARMERS AND YOUR SUB-PAR SPAGHETTI SAUCE.

A little sugar is fine if you're in a pinch and don't have an entire day to wait for the tomatoes to cook down and lose their acidity. Personally I've grown fond of molasses in place of brown sugar

 

[NyQuilninja]

If Im feeling lazy I just buy the cheap canned sauce you need an opener for. Where is this 8 dollar jar of sauce? LA?

I've tried this and it works but still not a fan of them being IN the sauce. I'd probably just skin a carrot, throw it in whole and retrieve it after instead if I did this again

A little sugar is fine if you're in a pinch and don't have an entire day to wait for the tomatoes to cook down and lose their acidity. Personally I've grown fond of molasses in place of brown sugar

ROA brand and Similar top brands are rising in cost the highest I've seen is 8$ for a " premium 'jar" in the Midwest

 

[AnonymousKot]

Not sure if its related but I keep seeing news about people having discrepancies with their banks like this one, feels like a pattern

https://youtu.be/mt8jRESdqaA?si=vrSqfEV13ZMEi0RO

 

[derpherp2]

Like the biggest problem with the American consumer is they just don't know much about any sort of food culture at all. Its not even about expensive ingredients. People in Italy literally live off of 700 euros a month, for example, and so have to make everything from scratch and can't afford a million ingredients. If they went for fast food, theyd be broke. Most arent even decent chefs, but these basic things? The people know how to do them by default, and thats where they are doing better than us

Everyone, even my parents are confused how such a "picky eater" buys walmart shit, but then complains about their cooking.

Buying 5 bucks of 'premium' green onions and then leaving it out for weeks to never use is fucking retarded for one.
For two, there's literally a grocer nearby for cheaper. To make no mention of what the fuck 'premium' onions are.

I use box kits to cook way too often, but only because scratch cooking is messy and generates a lot of dishes. Dishes suck, and getting to eliminate the number of dishes I use to cook in is worth the dip in quality.

What I can't understand are people who spend all of their money on DoorDash. I can understand the desire to have someone else cook for you on a day when you're tired, and I can see what a big flex it is to not have to cook at all, but I like my food fresh and hot. Paying twice the price so I can get a soggy bag of cool fried food that had a "deliciousness shelf life" that expired three minutes before I got it is just stupid. I can make my own wrinkled, grease-saturated chicken sandwich and fry up my own fries, thank you very much. And i don't need to leave myself a tip.

Like I said walmart has bulk pre-mades of the more annoying things already and sometimes they're cheaper than wholesale veggis - though most of the time they're like 10/20% more expensive (so like an extra 5 cents per pound, oh no). So meal kit services are fucking useless.


Though I still get normal shit from nearby grocers because I might need more things.

 

[Meat Target]

@DiscoRodeo
I'm always reminded of that episode of Bob's burgers where he's teaching the kids how to make popcorn

I mean it's astonishing how many adults literally cannot cook like the concept of it. I worked at a restaurant briefly moonlighting. And there was a manager there that couldn't cook eggs because they never had. I'll have to find the article but even making a decent pie in America has become almost a lost art

Wall-E tried to warn us. We didn't listen.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

Buying 5 bucks of 'premium' green onions and then leaving it out for weeks to never use is fucking retarded for one.

Aren't shallots/green onions like $0.60? Thats a shitton of green onions

Like yeah, only buy what you need and dont let stuff sit for 2 weeks, but this is all basically done through actually planning out what youre going to cook for the week, which is another basic skill

 

[NyQuilninja]

Wall-E tried to warn us. We didn't listen.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

Beef prices in East Asia are going down. Largest dairy producer in China just announced it will slaughter 30% of subcontractor dairy cows, 30% of it's own. Ouch. Projected alfalfa prices are supposed to drop hard due to the large surplus carrying over from last year and suppressed Asia demand.

CA harvest is gonna be fucked this year due to that rainstorm (That's not a hurricane). Have fun with disease.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Beef prices in East Asia are going down. Largest dairy producer in China just announced it will slaughter 30% of subcontractor dairy cows, 30% of it's own. Ouch. Projected alfalfa prices are supposed to drop hard due to the large surplus carrying over from last year and suppressed Asia demand.

CA harvest is gonna be fucked this year due to that rainstorm (That's not a hurricane). Have fun with disease.

Hope I can eat some cheap beef later this year. Last time I visited East Asia couple years ago during pandemic, prices of everything was whack.

 

[DavidS877]

Hope I can eat some cheap beef later this year. Last time I visited East Asia couple years ago during pandemic, prices of everything was whack.

All those dairy cows are useful for is ground beef.

 

[mold]

Aren't shallots/green onions like $0.60? Thats a shitton of green onions

gardening in general is not necessarily a magic budget fix but specfically green onions there's no reason to ever buy. You can grow more than you can use in a pot.

 

[teriyakiburns]

gardening in general is not necessarily a magic budget fix but specfically green onions there's no reason to ever buy. You can grow more than you can use in a pot.

Same with potatoes. They grow just about anywhere and are stupidly easy to harvest. Just dig until food emerges.

 

[mold]

Same with potatoes. They grow just about anywhere and are stupidly easy to harvest. Just dig until food emerges.

if you think growing enough potatoes to make a difference in your budget is as easy as green onions you're retarded

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Well, lets ask the AI.

The amount of land needed for a potato home garden to feed a single person can vary based on several factors. Let’s explore a few estimates:

1. Vegetable Garden Size Calculator:
   
   • Some sources suggest around 100 square feet per person as a general guideline for vegetable gardens, but this can vary depending on family needs and preferences.
   • To provide a rough estimation, consider that potatoes yield approximately 100 pounds per 100 square feet of garden space.
   • If we assume a single person consumes about 100 pounds of potatoes in a year, you’d need approximately 100 square feet of garden space to grow enough potatoes for one person1.
   • Keep in mind that this is a basic estimate, and individual consumption may vary.
2. Other Estimates:
   
   • According to a study, to sustain one person on a diet for an entire year, you’d probably need about 4,000 square feet of growing space (excluding access paths) to grow a variety of vegetables2.
   • Another suggestion is 1,000 to 2,000 square feet supplemented with pots and potting soil for proper rotation of plant families. This would allow you to preserve enough harvest for the rest of the year and even share with friends and neighbors3.
   • Permaculture advocates propose a range of ⅓ to 4 acres of land to feed a single person, considering climate conditions, soil quality, and dietary needs4.

In summary, if you’re aiming to grow primarily potatoes, a garden area of around 100 square feet should suffice. However, adjusting based on your specific preferences and needs is essential. Happy gardening!

So more than a single pot. 100 square feet isn't an impossible amount for a back yard garden. But if you were trying to go off the grid, 4000 square feet (basically your entire back yard)? And you'd have to learn crop rotation and a bunch of other shit, cause if you're just re-doing potatoes, well, potato blight time.

 

[teriyakiburns]

if you think growing enough potatoes to make a difference in your budget is as easy as green onions you're retarded

I said they're stupidly easy to grow, because they are. Besides, I am genetically predisposed to favour taters at every juncture.

 

[Sneed's Feed And Seed]

I am genetically predisposed to favour taters

I didn't know the blarney humpers subscribed to the extraneous "u". I thought it was all a bit of the craic.