Global warming/Climate change thread - is it real or bullshit?

Cutting down on air pollution is definitely something that should be done, regardless if it's creating a giant hole in our atmosphere or not. I'd also like coral reefs to not go completely extinct.
 
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More severe compared to what? Hurricanes have been consistently less powerful and less frequent for the last twenty years or more, despite better detection methods roping in all the tiny and non-landfalling hurricanes that would never have been noticed before. Temperature records are only being broken in the middle of enormous urban heat islands and at airports, and other unrepresentative microclimates. Any flood or storm you might point to is not outside of the bounds set by historic events in those areas. Fewer people die in weather-driven disasters, despite a greater population. The only tangible difference between historic events and now is the size of the insurance payouts and the damage caused to infrastructure, both of which are the result of the increasing population size and currency inflation making all the numbers look bigger.
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Consider that I said I do notice and that there are indeed areas of the world that are suffering more from climate change than others. Where I live, I notice the effects. The records that have been broken are not only with heat, and are not only in "urban heat islands" (what???) and airports. I'm not here to argue the semantics of climate change or its validity, I just wanted to share my anecdote.
 
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Bjorn Lomborg (former Greenpeace environmentalist turned self-educated environmental economist) makes what I find the best argument in "The Skeptical Environmentalist," the global warming issue is massively exaggerated and treated like a religion, and when you use realistic estimates we'd be better off just adjusting to it than trying to stop it.

Lomborg also addresses a lot of other boogeymen like resource depletion, extinctions (the procedure they use to estimate how many species go extinct is loony), and different kinds of pollution, but gives examples of things that are real problems that can be fixed (main one that comes to mind being pollution from burning wood, in Third World countries you get lots of diseases from inhaling wood smoke where they don't have electricity to use for heating and cooking).

We've been supposed to have climate doomsday for half a century now. It's something Leftists use to scare retards into voting for more government control.
 
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It’s real. In 1950, Africa had about 177 million people and today it’s over 1.2 billion. Where I disagree with environmentalists on is what the solutions are. They want us to eat bug paste and I think we should start shipping condoms instead of food aid to Africa. Hold multinationals responsible for polluting the planet because they bribed a nigger inspector $5 to look the other way on dumping hazardous chemicals into a river.
 
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It's a form of psychological warfare meant to enslave citizens and get them into complying to their overlords and live lives as uncomfortable as possible. The sun in itself is the main powerhouse for influencing our climate. Many people don't even take into account the horrendous winters they've experience to use this to question the narrative in the first place as they would be distracted by headlines that say "CURRENT YEAR is the warmest year on record". Plus, if the earth did freeze over, there would be less areas for cultivation thus not giving enough supply the welfare state gives it's slaves. Being the same people pushing for climate change, they have very little cultivation experience themselves as they'll just perceive it as too much work and responsibility for them.
 
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To start with, I want to say that I'm going to try to persuade someone; I'm just going to share my thought about climate change. And yes, I believe in the fact of global warming and that climate change. It changes because of the evolution of everything on the planet, especially because of the industrial revolution. There are data and research on the internet, and everything can be easily found. Such fast warming corresponds with levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, which have been increasing (comes from natural sources, but mostly from the burning of fossil fuels). Air is so polluted, and peoples from a few countries have to wear masks not because of only COVID but to save their health. Some time ago, I came across this page https://envrexperts.com/free-essays/essay-about-report-air-pollution-emitted-caltex-oil-refinery-kurnell where I read about pollution by Kurnell Refinery. Nowadays, it's closed, but when the refinery was opened, locals were very concerned about its impact of it on the air and on their health. Pretty interesting article to read. And imagine how many such buildings are around the world and what impact all of them together have.
 
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World Map of countries pollution levels.
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World Map of shipping traffic (usually diesel powered)
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Elites using private jets (which actually pollute more than commercial aircraft) to get to Davos to talk about climate change.
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Obama buys beachfront property, shouldn't it already be underwater?
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UN leaked report shows scientists pressured to cover-up climate model being false.
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Wind Turbines can't even make back the energy used in their own construction during their lifetime. Afterwards, they become landfill.
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After solar panels end their lifespan, they are used in landfill and the chemicals and metals from their construction can leak into groundwater.
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The lithium mines involved in the battery industry destroy soil and impact air quality.
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Child labor is used in mining for cobalt, another battery industry requirement.
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In reality the entire climate change thing is just a new industry for oligarchs to exploit, you can make a lot more money having endless manufacturing of solar/wind farms that constantly need to be replaced. The whole climate change thing is just a marketing campaign. You'll have to give up everything. But the rich will keep using their private jets and 3 gas fueled SUV's with their assistants and security, on the way to their island resort.

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It might be worth to unbury this thread with that article from American Thinker about global warming.
April 9, 2023

50 is the New 70 degrees Fahrenheit​

By Mark C. Ross


Gee, record snowfall practically everywhere. Many have been enduring well-below-normal spring temperatures. When is that atmospheric heat-trapping going to kick in? If I had mastered Photoshop, I'd have put together a picture of Al Gore driving a snow plow...with palm trees in the background. But reality is disturbing enough.
Many reporters covering the ongoing devastation being wrought by tornadoes bend over backwards to tie the phenomenon to global warming. It so happens that this is tornado season — when cold Arctic air masses collide with warm, moist air masses coming up from the Gulf of Mexico. The death and destruction on the ground is happening because of where the twisters touch down, which is a largely chaotic process.
H.L. Mencken is credited for saying, "Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American public." Until I looked this up, I thought it was P.T. Barnum. Careful research, don't you know.

Mean sea level is actually the most reliable indicator of global temperature trends, because it is global and not local. According to NASA's website, the oceans have so far been creeping up at 3.3 millimeters per year. It takes almost 305 millimeters to equal a foot of distance. Oy! Having studied both climatology and paleontology, I can say that, should sea levels stop rising and start falling, we may well be entering the next ice age.

C'mon, this "climate change" rap is a fairly naked attempt by the "Totalitarians" to enslave us, the masses. Just scare the crap out of us. There ya go, it'll work like a charm. We'll gladly surrender just about all of our freedoms in order to imagine saving the planet. Now, that's major-league virtue-signaling.
A little ancient history lesson just now seems appropriate. There used to be a place in time known as the Pleistocene, the most recent ice age. Biologically, mammals replaced reptiles as the dominant land animals. Along with birds, mammals are warm-blooded. They generate their own internal heat — unlike reptiles, insects, and fish, which are dependent on ambient environmental temperature to support their metabolic processes.

Wooly mammoths and saber-toothed tigers are well known species from this epoch. They were much larger than their modern descendants because of the severely cold weather that they had to endure. This illustrates an interesting little trick of nature. As animals increase in size, their cubic volume increases in three dimensions, while their surface area increases in only two. Thus, warm-blooded animals retain internal heat much more efficiently as they get bigger and bigger.
Meanwhile, the Earth no longer sustains giant reptiles. Gators, crocks, and pythons are today's largest. It takes fairly warm weather to support animals that are not warm-blooded. Yet the prospect of "climate change" is flaunted as a serious problem. Simply put, it's entirely a political effort.
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Bjorn Lomborg (former Greenpeace environmentalist turned self-educated environmental economist) makes what I find the best argument in "The Skeptical Environmentalist," the global warming issue is massively exaggerated and treated like a religion, and when you use realistic estimates we'd be better off just adjusting to it than trying to stop it.

Lomborg also addresses a lot of other boogeymen like resource depletion, extinctions (the procedure they use to estimate how many species go extinct is loony), and different kinds of pollution, but gives examples of things that are real problems that can be fixed (main one that comes to mind being pollution from burning wood, in Third World countries you get lots of diseases from inhaling wood smoke where they don't have electricity to use for heating and cooking).

We've been supposed to have climate doomsday for half a century now. It's something Leftists use to scare retards into voting for more government control.
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"Oy vey goy, stop using a naturally occuring, self-replicating resource that can be aquired independently and instead hook yourself up to the power grid to power all your essential needs!"
No.
 
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Some more threadomancy, but I'm noticing a lot of "oh soo hooot" chatter in my patch of land when this has been the softest summer in a while and I'm wondering if it's just gaslighting and the niggercattle are convincing themselves of "how hot it is".

Am I just going fullnutcase or has anybody else noticed something like this?
 
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Am I just going fullnutcase or has anybody else noticed something like this?
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You're not alone. The temperatures where I am have been high, but not record-setting by any stretch. I remember hotter weeks from when I was a kid. The problem is, the media reports extreme temperatures recorded at poorly-sited temperature stations (usually major airports or city centres) as if they're the temperature across a vast swathe of the country. At the same time, most people don't have a thermometer they can look at to compare, or if they do they just assume it must be wrong because the TV told them so.

That's the accompanied by shit like this:

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There's no end of colour trickery to convince people that it's "hot" now, even if temperatures aren't outside the norm.

People are constantly bombarded with the idea that it's hotter now than it was a decade ago and just accept it, because they assume the fact that every "trusted" source is telling them the same thing means that they must be right.
 
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It’s real and I have noticed the changes in the local climate in my lifetime. It seems to have implanted a mass hysteria in sections of the left however - some of it is calculated as they try and use it as a wedge to implement their fringe politics, some are very genuine and embrace it as their own doomsday cult.

Where I live (Bongland) the BBC is obsessed with it - right now the front page is all climate stories and they have a live rolling ticker as they beg for more records to be broken. Any disaster that can be attributed to weather, even if it’s not unusual, you can bet they’re quick to highlight it and remind you that it’s because you took a flight that this is happening. All part of the Nudge strategy to get the public on their side. Funny thing is even if we went carbon neutral tomorrow it’d have fuck all effect on the state of the planet.
 
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Good Lord. The debate over Climate Change is entirely over and there is absolutely no denial of it, a brief review shows this, an extensive one makes it as undeniable as the sun rising in the morning.

But...so what?

I'm a supporter of initiatives to try and resolve it but I look at my business and the waste it produces and there is no fucking denying it that if everyone on Earth produced the waste (and ergo carbon footprint) that my business produces, there is no reversal of climate change possible.

I admire the initiatives put forth, but frankly, with 8 billion on Earth it realistically is only going to get worse. I'm not saying we should not try, as everything helps, but the reality is that it is pissing in the wind with 8 Billion.

I'd support the elimination of 7 Billion people for sure, except that of course I don't want to be one of the 7 Billion eliminated, so there is that. I take comfort instead of the knowledge that instead Earth will roast and either way, the planet will force the reduction in numbers of biomass through starvation and sheer destruction that is a consequence.

If I were a filthy rich man and part of a cabal, I'd likely see the solution as developing AI to a point where robotics can do most services of humans (better than ChatGBT, I am talking real AI), and then I'd eliminate 7-7.5 Billion humans through a virus and have the robotics clean up the mess left behind and declare a utopia. I'd see that as a sound solution and workable.

It would take about 150 years to clean up the world thereafter. And as looney as that plan sounds, don't be surprised if some other groups actually haven't thought of it as a sound solution. If you have genuine AI it becomes realistic. Unleashing a virus now would simply destroy the global economy and leave a god awful mess behind with no one around to clean it up; you need AI robotics to pull it off. There are billions of tons of crap to clear, recycle and dispose of properly, and that would take an immense robotic army a century to clear away.
 
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Lol, lmao even. Dooming over a tiny sea rise that may be real.

Build a fucking dam...

It has to be ass long, but like a meter tall. It isn't 50 meters rise of water levels.
 
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I don't know if I should have posted here or in the Great Reset thread but Karl Schwab's daughter is a big SOB just like his dad about climate lockdowns.
Nicole Schwab, the offspring of World Economic Forum mastermind Klaus Schwab, admitted that COVID was simply a precursor for coming climate lockdowns. In the leaked video above from a June 2020 panel discussion in Switzerland, Nicole comments that COVID proved the world could strongly shift once people felt an extreme threat to their livelihoods. She notes that policymakers now have more power post-COVID, and changes need not be incremental. In the full video, she states:
“So I see it as a tremendous opportunity to really have this Great Reset and to use this huge flows of money — to use the increased levers that policymakers have today — in a way that was not possible before to create a change that is not incremental but that we can look back and we can say this is the moment where we really started to position nature at the core of the economy. And there are plenty of opportunities and this is again a mindset of actually innovation technology and a business growth can happen with a positive impact of nature and kind of laying out some of these examples. Regenerative agriculture is, of course, a huge part of that as well.”
I will go into regenerative farming in another post, but it ultimately transfers the production of crops to the globalists under the lie of climate change.
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