Godzilla: King of the Monsters - Long Live the King

I've only ever seen the second Rebirth of Mothra lol, such a preachy film but I think it's a weird film because I guess I don't have the proper context or something.
 
The Rebirth of Mothra trilogy is...interesting, to say the least.

Very preachy environmental messages, and they were definitely meant for young kids, so they're kind of dumbed down compared to other kaiju flicks.

But there is an oddball goofiness to them that I kind of appreciate. The 2nd one is pretty wacky. And hey, the third one has King Ghidorah and time traveling to dinosaur times, so there's that, lol.
 
Surprise, surprise, critics appear to be mixed on it. The primary complaint is that there is too MUCH monsters and not enough human shit (Aka the most boring part of these movies). But whatever. The Godzilla series has the blessing of being subjective in terms of what the viewer is looking for. Critics today hate fun, imagine my shock.

I'm in it for the long haul. If the movie is nothing but mindless kaiju action, that's good enough for me.
 
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Alto said:
Surprise, surprise, critics appear to be mixed on it. The primary complaint is that there is too MUCH monsters and not enough human shit (Aka the most boring part of these movies). But whatever. The Godzilla series has the blessing of being subjective in terms of what the viewer is looking for. Critics today hate fun, imagine my shock.

I'm in it for the long haul. If the movie is nothing but mindless kaiju action, that's good enough for me.
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Said the same thing, but vice versa with 2014 Godzilla. After what happened with RT on The Last Jedi and Captain Marvel, do you really think they actually matter?
 
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Alto said:
Surprise, surprise, critics appear to be mixed on it. The primary complaint is that there is too MUCH monsters and not enough human shit (Aka the most boring part of these movies). But whatever. The Godzilla series has the blessing of being subjective in terms of what the viewer is looking for. Critics today hate fun, imagine my shock.
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It's highly appropriate the site's called "Rotten Tomatoes" because it makes it that much easier to throw rotten food at these so-called "critics" and get away with it.
 
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I'm not even kidding, one critic was complaining because Goji isn't a "symbol for American fascism" in this movie. So yeah. It's all bullshit. I mean, I already knew this but whatever.
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Imagine being so fucking obsessed with people validating your worldview that you go into a fucking GODZILLA movie wanting to see someone look directly at the camera and say "FUCK DRUMPF".
 
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Okay I'll let you all in on something.

No lie, no bullshit. I've seen the movie. I attended an early screening last week.

I won't spoil anything in the movie, but what I will say is that if you are a fan of giant monsters, then this movie is definitely for you. It is an action packed spectacle and is definitely pleasing for the fans without feeling like pandering. If you like monster action, then this is the ticket.

As for the story being weak, I disagree. Its very straight forward, and fairly common for a Godzilla movie to have a plot similar to this, but when I heard one review say it was "convoluted", I had to scratch my head. The actors are all solid too, with Watanabe having a major impact on the film, and the core family of characters (Kyle Chandler, Vera Farmiga, and MBB) were a solid emotional dynamic for a film like this.

I think a 6 year old could follow this movie, and enjoy it for the reasons that it is supposed to be enjoyed.

EDIT: Oh and most nerd based outlets seem to be giving the film praise. IGN, Den of Geek, and Collider all gave it good reviews.
 
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The critics recently had very positive responses to The Last Jedi and Captain Marvel. Also, based on the RT scores, Black Panther is supposedly the "best comic book movie ever made."

YEAH. So I'm going to trust these chumps when it comes to Godzilla?
 
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The difference between this and something like Suicide Squad where fanboys fought against critics is that DC films usually take themselves VERY seriously. When they're shitty, they're REALLY shitty and no amount of fanboyism fixes it.

Godzilla is a completely different breed. With the exception of the original, the series has always been madcap and nonsensical. Here's the thing though--it's REALLY fun. The fanbase is passionate for a reason. No one goes in for logic or the humans. People go in to see monsters wreck shit or act goofy. It's pure entertainment at its core.
 
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So I watched Chris Stuckmann's and Jeremy Jahn's reviews. Neither of them were very positive, although I appreciate Jahns' review more than I do Stuckmann's. Jahns admits that he isn't really a Godzilla fan in the first place, so he emphasized the perspective in which his review is coming from. Fair enough.

Stuckmann, on the other hand, claims that he's such a "huge fan" of Godzilla, yet he goes on to complain about how ridiculous the plot to the movie is. UM. So it's a Toho Godzilla movie then?! One of my all-time favorite Godzilla movies is Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991), and that movie has one of the most over-the-top and ridiculous plots EVER. And I fucking love it. A huge chunk of the Godzilla movies are essentially just b-movies that can appeal to children. That's why a lot of us fans love them!

And out of curiosity, I watched Stuckmann's review of Shin Godzilla as well. While he is certainly more positive about that movie over this new one, his complaints about Shin Godzilla completely contradict his complaints about King of the Monsters. "Too much talking, too many people moments." In his review of King of the Monsters, he's all about how there aren't enough people moments, and that the humans needed to be fleshed out more. Kay.

Stuckmann also says he doesn't know what Godzilla fans want. Judging from the early reactions, Godzilla fans wanted THIS movie. They want a movie full of spectacle, and it looks like that's exactly what we're going to get.

I'm seeing it on Friday, and in no way do the negative critical reactions hinder my excitement.
 
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So I watched Chris Stuckmann's and Jeremy Jahn's reviews. Neither of them were very positive, although I appreciate Jahns' review more than I do Stuckmann's. Jahns admits that he isn't really a Godzilla fan in the first place, so he emphasized the perspective in which his review is coming from. Fair enough.

Stuckmann, on the other hand, claims that he's such a "huge fan" of Godzilla, yet he goes on to complain about how ridiculous the plot to the movie is. UM. So it's a Toho Godzilla movie then?! One of my all-time favorite Godzilla movies is Godzilla vs. King Ghidorah (1991), and that movie has one of the most over-the-top and ridiculous plots EVER. And I fucking love it. A huge chunk of the Godzilla movies are essentially just b-movies that can appeal to children. That's why a lot of us fans love them!

And out of curiosity, I watched Stuckmann's review of Shin Godzilla as well. While he is certainly more positive about that movie over this new one, his complaints about Shin Godzilla completely contradict his complaints about King of the Monsters. "Too much talking, too many people moments." In his review of King of the Monsters, he's all about how there aren't enough people moments, and that the humans needed to be fleshed out more. Kay.

Stuckmann also says he doesn't know what Godzilla fans want. Judging from the early reactions, Godzilla fans wanted THIS movie. They want a movie full of spectacle, and it looks like that's exactly what we're going to get.

I'm seeing it on Friday, and in no way do the negative critical reactions hinder my excitement.
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I like Stuckmann's reviews to a certain point, but I've noticed her tends to begin the majority of his reviews with a "I'm such a big fan of--" qualifier. "I'm such a big fan of the Avengers." "I'm such a big fan of this director." "I'm such a big fan of this fandom." It's gotten to be quite tiresome.

All the same, I'm looking forward to seeing the movie as well. Hoping it stops by my tiny town in bumfuck nowhere.
 
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