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Mmmm, monkey...
Sadly it's an RTX 4070 Super Gaming Slim from MSI but it is cheaper than a 4070 Ti Super by a fair amount.
Apparently there is a 7900XTX GPU sponsored by Space Marine 2, which makes me wonder, how many collab GPUs are there (the ones I can remember were the 2 EVA 3090s, the Frostpunk 2 7700XT and 2 others from Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora and S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2).
 
Apparently there is a 7900XTX GPU sponsored by Space Marine 2, which makes me wonder, how many collab GPUs are there (the ones I can remember were the 2 EVA 3090s, the Frostpunk 2 7700XT and 2 others from Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora and S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2).
There's a Spider-Man themed RTX 4060 from ZOTAC. I feel like these collabs have gotten more common. I miss the days when GPUs would have little mascots of their own.
 
I miss the days when GPUs would have little mascots of their own.
The best you can hope for anymore is Unspecific Anime Girls on Chinese Yeston GPUs. Or their "Cute Pet" designs:

Yeston’s Anime-Inspired Radeon RX 7900 XT Sakura Graphics Card Hits Retail For $1200 US
Yeston Launches GeForce RTX 4060 Ti SAKURA 16 GB Graphics Card: Anime Theme & $529 Price

Swappable shrouds/backplates would make it easier.
 
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Apparently there is a 7900XTX GPU sponsored by Space Marine 2, which makes me wonder, how many collab GPUs are there (the ones I can remember were the 2 EVA 3090s, the Frostpunk 2 7700XT and 2 others from Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora and S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2).
There were a bunch of NVIDIA GPUs that were Wukong themed but AFAIK they were only released in China and almost all of them were 4070 Supers (a 4080 Super from Colorful iGame and a 4070 Ti Super from Galax are the only outliers).

As far as other special editions are concerned I've seen three: a Monster Hunter-themed 4060 Ti, a WoW-themed 4070 Super (that I would consider for my build were it not sold out), and a special edition 4070 Super featuring some generic anime succubus or something.
I'm honestly shocked that there isn't a market for swappable GPU accessories, I'm starting to wonder why it hasn't been done yet.
 
Fuuuuuuck. What a shame.
I'm still a greenhorn to all this GPU snobbery but is that bad? I wasn't even considering it since it's impossible to find anywhere (probably due to it being exclusive to China) while I was considering the 4070 Super Wukong Edition due to it being an MSI-branded GPU and it being somewhat-easy to find online.

eBay, weirdly enough, has people trying to hock the 4070 Super Wukong Edition for around $1k.
 
I'm still a greenhorn to all this GPU snobbery but is that bad? I wasn't even considering it since it's impossible to find anywhere (probably due to it being exclusive to China) while I was considering the 4070 Super Wukong Edition due to it being an MSI-branded GPU and it being somewhat-easy to find online.

eBay, weirdly enough, has people trying to hock the 4070 Super Wukong Edition for around $1k.
Nah, just jealous.
 
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And I’m back from Micro Center. it‘s a damned good store if ask me, reminds me of the Fry’s Electronics of old.

First the bad news, my old 3050 ASUS TUF laptop is may be a bust, they basically said that it’s a mobo problem and that it’d need to be RMA’d to get an idea of what’s actually wrong with it.

The good news is that I got some advice on my potential PC via their BYOPC department.
  • They suggested their AMD Ryzen 5 9500X/ASUS Prime B650M-A motherboard/G.Skill RAM bundle considering the games I play but they also said that the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D bundle also works, the only downside is that I’d have to buy my case elsewhere.
  • They selected a Zotac RTX 4070 12GB Twin Edge GPU for my build. I mentioned that I was looking at a 4070 Super and they said that’d be more than enough. Now I can get my monke without regret.
  • They suggested a Phantom Spirit air cooler, something that I was leaning towards after doing my own research.
  • They put in a 1TB 990 EVO SSD for my hypothetical build. I’d scrap that and spend a little extra towards a 2TB SSD due to my current laptop having an SSD with the same space and it’s almost full.
  • They added an extra 16GB RAM stick to my build due to the AMD Ryzen 5 9500X bundle only coming with one.
  • They put a 750W PSU into my build, another thing I was leaning towards.
  • The case they suggested was this Lian Li microATX case I was looking at regular ATX cases and that kind of throws my whole PC design into question.
So yeah, I’m mildly annoyed with the microATX case but I’ll keep looking for an ATX case that can fit the space I have. If not, I’ll move some shit around and make it work.
Nah, just jealous.
To be honest I’m slightly jealous of those bugmen as well, I would’ve loved to get an RTX 4070 Ti Super with Wukong on it.
 
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So yeah, I’m mildly annoyed with the microATX case but I’ll keep looking for an ATX case that can fit the space I have.
That case looks like just a short normal ATX case, so if you can go taller you're likely fine.
I think all modern cases are crap though. PCPartpicker does have some specs you can search on for cases.

I'm looking to swap one of my cases to something even bigger I want something I can run two GPUs in MB slots instead of one on a riser and sideways so I'm having to look for one with more slots.
 
So yeah, I’m mildly annoyed with the microATX case but I’ll keep looking for an ATX case that can fit the space I have. If not, I’ll move some shit around and make it work.
tbh if you're just aiming for a 4070/Super, why go larger than mATX? I prefer mid-towers myself but these days unless you're buying a massive GPU or still using 3.5" HDDs and optical drives, there's little reason to do that. You don't strike me as someone who's going to be springing for triple slot GPU anytime soon.

So much of the shit that used to take up space in computers when the industry created ATX in 1995 doesn't exist anymore so unless you really want the features that only appear on full ATX boards, I don't see the point.
 
>be amd
>have official waifus
>don't put them on GPUs


at least you'll get a pillow
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amada will always be the OG amd mascot

Just put your own anime stickers on it. Then make a sad face and think about everything leading up to this.
stickers? are you a fucking casual?
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That case looks like just a short normal ATX case, so if you can go taller you're likely fine.
With 27 inches of space and the ability to add on 5 more inches to that I can go taller if I want to, the problem is finding a case that fits the maximum depth/width the potential space has.
I think all modern cases are crap though. PCPartpicker does have some specs you can search on for cases.

I'm looking to swap one of my cases to something even bigger I want something I can run two GPUs in MB slots instead of one on a riser and sideways so I'm having to look for one with more slots.
Sadly depth and width aren't specs you can search for on PCPartPicker, but I'll still keep an eye out.
tbh if you're just aiming for a 4070/Super, why go larger than mATX? I prefer mid-towers myself but these days unless you're buying a massive GPU or still using 3.5" HDDs and optical drives, there's little reason to do that. You don't strike me as someone who's going to be springing for triple slot GPU anytime soon.
The main reason is the motherboards that are included in the AMD Ryzen 5 7600X3D CPU and Ryzen 5 7800X3D bundles are ATX mobos. Another issue is that altering said bundles in any way in any removes any savings that the bundle has (the CPU goes from $155.25 to $299.99 being the big loss).
 
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Intel’s Arc Battlemage B580 “Limited Edition” GPU Listed Online For $259

If I'm not mistaken, B580 is the flagship? It might be a little faster than the A770, not sure.


128-bit Strix Halo might happen (6-8 cores, 20 CUs, 16 MiB Infinity Cache). Medusa Point mainstream APU could use chiplets on an interposer and have 12 big Zen 6 cores instead of the 4+8 design of Strix Point. Ryzen 9000 desktop successor could use two 12-core CCDs (same chiplet as the APU) for up to 24 cores.

A 12-core CCD would be big news, and finally shift core counts up at each price tier. It would probably enable a 10-core desktop CPU, and make an 8-core the budget CPU with 6-cores eliminated. No word on if the CCD is unified (single CCX).
 
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128-bit Strix Halo might happen (6-8 cores, 20 CUs, 16 MiB Infinity Cache). Medusa Point mainstream APU could use chiplets on an interposer and have 12 big Zen 6 cores instead of the 4+8 design of Strix Point. Ryzen 9000 desktop successor could use two 12-core CCDs (same chiplet as the APU) for up to 24 cores.
I know we say this every time we increase core counts on consumer desktops ("no one is ever gonna need more than 2/4/8/16 cores!") but I legitimately feel like 24 full-fat cores is an absolutely insane number for a desktop and there's no way anyone except for compulsive gentoo recompilers would ever need more.

I wonder if the next gen of game consoles are gonna stay on 8-core or move to 10-core.
 
I know we say this every time we increase core counts on consumer desktops ("no one is ever gonna need more than 2/4/8/16 cores!") but I legitimately feel like 24 full-fat cores is an absolutely insane number for a desktop and there's no way anyone except for compulsive gentoo recompilers would ever need more.
Threadripper/Epyc have been around long enough that some multi-thread heavy applications can scale to use a lot of cores. However, I believe that there are a bunch that only scale to use 32 cores (evident in 64-core Threadripper reviews), which could be a near-term "wall" for consumer processors. And if you look into it, 32-bit Windows 7/8/10 supported only up to 32 threads (which could be 32 cores with HT/SMT disabled). 24 cores isn't a "wall", it would likely be at 4/8/16/32 for various applications you use. Do you need the performance of 24-32 cores? Not if you have to ask. An office PC can get by with a decade-old quad-core, no problem.

Moving to 24 cores using 2 CCDs means that a 12-core using only one CCD becomes cheap to make. The new 9800X3D equivalent would have 12 cores instead of 8. Below that, 10-core and 8-core are likely, with no 6-cores anymore.

@jeff7989 is right though, we could use more memory channels. It's probably necessary to push core counts further, and APUs can always benefit from it. You aren't getting that on the AM5 socket, it's physically impossible. Look at a pin diagram and you can see a lot of them are responsible for the 2 memory channels you do get.

I wonder if the next gen of game consoles are gonna stay on 8-core or move to 10-core.
The MLID leak claims the Zen 6 CCD is 12 cores, ~75mm^2, likely on TSMC N3. Single/dual CCX and the L3 cache amount isn't mentioned (32-48 MiB?). But that's around the same die size as previous chiplets.

I doubt it would be any trouble at all for new consoles to move to 12 cores. They could even use miniaturized 'c' cores instead, as long as limiting the clock speeds doesn't create an FPS bottleneck. The PS5 uses up to 3.5 GHz Zen 2, which the PS5 Pro raised to 3.85 GHz. So we are talking about a bottleneck for 240 FPS most likely.
 
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