Grand Jury speculation thread

What will the next legal development be?

  • Grand Jury declares Chris fit for trial

    Votes: 458 30.3%
  • Grand Jury declares Chris a brokebrain and unfit for trial

    Votes: 203 13.4%
  • CONTINUANCE!

    Votes: 220 14.6%
  • Plea deal

    Votes: 122 8.1%
  • The US collapses, Chris escapes from jail and becomes a cult-leader

    Votes: 208 13.8%
  • The Merge occurs

    Votes: 301 19.9%

  • Total voters
    1,512
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As a resident of shithole Virginia, I'm surprised I'm good with this outcome. It's better he be kept in jail rather than him boarding a Greyhound bus and finding him in my area of the state. We have enough weirdos and really don't want any more.
Get back on your boat John Smith.

The S.S. Continuance has sailed.
 
My uninformed hot take: the defense wants to keep Chris behind bars until Barb dies. Chris probably likes the structure of jail to some extent and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't want to get out. (Not like he has anything going on in the free world anyways) If Chris gets out with Barb alive he'll go and reoffend the second he gets out. Besides, no one has any clue what to do with Chris anyways, he has nowhere to go post-jail.
 
I’m surprised he has been in the jail for a while now. One would think there would be a limit on how long they can just keep him in jail without conviction.
His attorney waived his right to a speedy trial, otherwise they would have had to have heard his case by now. I'm sure Heilberg is thinking (correctly, I might add) that Chris is better off spending his time in jail since he's going to get hit with a custodial sentence anyway, he might as well rack up as much time served as he can now.

Also, since he won't be allowed back to 14BC to potentially rape Barb again, he'd end up homeless, miss a court date, and end up in even more trouble. I hate to say it but jail really is the best place for the fat autist, at least at this point in time.
 
My uninformed hot take: the defense wants to keep Chris behind bars until Barb dies. Chris probably likes the structure of jail to some extent and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't want to get out. (Not like he has anything going on in the free world anyways) If Chris gets out with Barb alive he'll go and reoffend the second he gets out. Besides, no one has any clue what to do with Chris anyways, he has nowhere to go post-jail.
And don't forget, jail isn't prison. He's probably having a far cushier life in jail than he'd have in prison. Most criminals there are only in for an overnight stay.
 
My added theory to that is I think the defense wasn’t prepared to have Barb back home unattended in the timeframe of Chris’s release. They know he’ll break parole the second he gets out, and bee-line right back to 14blc and his abused old mother and make them look like fucking idiots for getting him out. It’s in their best interest to keep him warehoused till that whole situation plays out.

This would have been the first hearing where Chris's lawyer would have had time to negotiate a plea bargain - and it didn't happen. That tells me that the prosecution isn't eager to get rid of this case. They want to go forward. It may be that neither side have any idea of what to do with Chris after he gets out. No one in his family wants him. He isn't fit to take care of himself. There's no money to have him put in a group home. Jail might be the most convenient place to keep him, at least until the penal system doesn't want him any more.

The defense might be stalling to buy time to put a social worker on the case to figure out what the hell to do with OPL. The prosecution may have demanded a plan for after his release as a condition of the plea bargain.
As others have suggested, this may also be simply burning time with Chris in the slammer for the purposes of time served, maybe with the objective that at the end of the day it could lead to Chris exiting the prison system and thus no longer being the problem of the government.

But yeah, I'd have to think that after both sides have had time with Chris, not to mention the psych evals that went down at the request of the defense, that the only way a plea bargain is happening is to get Chris in a place where he will not reoffend. The biggest issue being of course Chris simply refusing to believe what he did was wrong because he doesn't WANT it to be wrong despite what the rest of sane society says.

My uninformed hot take: the defense wants to keep Chris behind bars until Barb dies. Chris probably likes the structure of jail to some extent and I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't want to get out. (Not like he has anything going on in the free world anyways) If Chris gets out with Barb alive he'll go and reoffend the second he gets out. Besides, no one has any clue what to do with Chris anyways, he has nowhere to go post-jail.
Possible, though quite a gamble given we've been saying Barb was on death's door for years and yet somehow she's still clutching to life without so much as an air tank or anything more than maybe a cane. Well, before the accident at least, no idea if she's even still able to walk now.

But Chris simply tolerates jail, as evidenced by his writings he's gradually becoming more and more disgruntled at the situation. The first order of business for him was after all to fetch his goddamn toys at the hearing and for months he's had nothing except what he can legally get from within jail itself. He hasn't seen his mother ever since he was forced out of 14BC, he got in trouble with the prison itself for something stupid, he's likely still upset deep down inside that MLP G5 happened and there's nothing he can do about it to save his precious head-continuity of C-whatever the fuck, and I'm certain some ween has written him a letter detailing how his crap likely has been thrown out of his house by now. Sure, Chris is able to live fairly comfortably (and far more healthy) than even if he was outside, but inside lockup he's denied access to the things he really cares about. It's the organized life he needs, but it's absolutely not on his terms.
 
This would have been the first hearing where Chris's lawyer would have had time to negotiate a plea bargain - and it didn't happen. That tells me that the prosecution isn't eager to get rid of this case. They want to go forward. It may be that neither side have any idea of what to do with Chris after he gets out. No one in his family wants him. He isn't fit to take care of himself. There's no money to have him put in a group home. Jail might be the most convenient place to keep him, at least until the penal system doesn't want him any more.

The defense might be stalling to buy time to put a social worker on the case to figure out what the hell to do with OPL. The prosecution may have demanded a plan for after his release as a condition of the plea bargain.
Didn't the legal experts comment that the longer this goes on, the worse off for Chris it will be? You are correct, it seems like the court isn't going to just clear this as fast as they can which means they're treating this like a big deal.

Not having a "plan" is seemingly what the court was concerned about at Chris's bail hearing when it got revoked. Also seems like Heilberg is running into issues with his "Matlocking" if even he couldn't wrangle up anyone with all his experience getting drunks, petty criminals and methheads off in his long career.
 
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Get back on your boat John Smith.

The S.S. Continuance has sailed.
I really think the continuance is to give them more time to find placement for Chris Chan and have the Barb/14BC situation get settled.

BTW Virginia has adult foster care. Originally it was for disabled veterans, but is now an option for those who can't or don't want to be institutionalized. (Let's face it no one is getting institutionalized at the moment for a variety of reasons.) I had no idea this existed. I just thought they might be looking for group home placement. Can you imagine thinking you're going to get a disabled vet with a bit of PTSD and one leg, but instead you get Chris Chan?
 
Where do you think they’d drop Chris off or he would settle after release? Any particular area(s) known for that?
Chris would probably want to be dropped off anywhere that has a pony convention.

Also, since there will be another continuance, since I believe Barb is making the payments to 14BLC, I assume the bank will not be taking the house anytime this year?
 
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