Grand Jury speculation thread

[Mariposa Electrique]

Nha he would because he would think that means he gets a lot of China and thus has prowess with it, he wouldn't realise it's a negative leading to more and more degeneracy.

Is it really a sex addiction if you're just banging your mom?

 

[Ophelia]

EDIT: Like what if it gets turned into a felony, the case drags on, and Chris spends 2 years in jail until conviction and THEN gets let go with time served. Would that still be "scot-free" in peoples eyes?

Anything less than a firing squad against the wall next to Bella with Snyder calling the order is scot-free to some people.

i can understand why Tom and Harriet turned Chris away, but I've never quite worked out why they're bothering to help Barb.

Because she’s an elderly rape victim and family. It helps smooth some things over. Maybe they feel it’s their social/christian/family duty to at least get her situated somewhere.

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Reading through the thread it almost seems like people want Chris to be a pedo. It would make absolutely hating him justified and righteous.

 

[Phalanges Mycologist]

Is it really a sex addiction if you're just banging your mom?

Probably, he just speed ran Daddy issues and ran right into Mummy issues.

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

I can't believe after finding out that Chris violated the sacred boundaries of never playing croquet with your own parents junk that we're still debating whether or not Chris is capable of creeping on children. Chris is capable of anything except finding a mate or normal human intellect.

I think there are two questions that we talk about interchangeably. One is whether Chris has the lack of judgment and conscience to abuse a child; the other is whether he poses a substantial risk of acting on it.

I agree that Chris’s past behavior suggests that the answer to the first question is yes. However, except in extremely unlikely circumstances, I believe the second answer is no.

 

[Tiggletown]

I encountered a Troon IRL with similar "conditions".

"She" initially garnered sympathy from people within a Facebook group. But soon, as rumors and stories filtered in from other LGBTQ members who knew her in other groups, it became clear that their life was not as put upon as their account would have.

Being an oddly sympathetic fellow, I took pity and gave "Her" the benefit of the doubt. Close-knit communities like LGBTQ can be very political and drama-filled, so I wondered if "She" had just crossed the wrong person in said group. Due to "Her" needing a job and at the time I knew a number of bar owners who were always looking for staff, I arranged to meet "her" so that I could at least recommend her.

"She" spent the whole night explaining why her current employer was unsuitable and "Transphobic".

Apparently being unqualified and lying about having the skills to mix industrial paint and related chemicals is irrelevant once they have employed you, it should be their responsibility and they totally would have given "her" the correct training if she were not trans and a trans lesbian.
Also telling her not to add an extra hour to her timesheet every time they sent an SMS is also "transphobic".

"She" claimed to have a whole bunch of really close friends, who were always in the bar we were going to. None of these friends were there that night, the only one she was able to call was out of town and had been for a while but not told "her". The only "really close friend" there was some guy who "she" had only spoken to on the internet a few days before and seemed to respond better to me for basic conversation.

There were some claims about "her" being able to learn algebra and complicated maths in an afternoon but had also dropped out of university due to "Transphobia" in a theatre studies degree.

It was all a bunch of explanations about how "she" is a super-genius but thanks to the intolerant nature of well-known anti trans and homophobic places like London, Sweden, and prejudiced policies from companies set up to humiliate people like "her", she could never get ahead.

When I suggested that she might listen to other people and not assume everyone is homophobic and anti trans, she said that I set off a "Red Flag".

Later on, I found out she frequently e begged strangers from the groups for money to pay for keeping "her" stink ditch open, and the "Homophobic" Lesbians and other "Anti trans" Trans individuals in the local scene had all distanced themselves from "her" due to the general behavior of conning people out of money, causing nightmares for housemates, harrassing "ex girlfriends" who were never girlfriends in the first place.

So naturally, I decided not to recommend "Her" for Bar Jobs.

Later on, she blocked me when I jokingly asked through messenger at the start of the pandemic if "she" was safely locked away from society.

TLDR: People who are creepy, with a victim mentality, and seek to blame all others for their problems are soon seen through and excluded. Chris will end up like this no matter what!

Stop chasing trannies you freak.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I think there are two questions that we talk about interchangeably. One is whether Chris has the lack of judgment and conscience to abuse a child; the other is whether he poses a substantial risk of acting on it.

I agree that Chris’s past behavior suggests that the answer to the first question is yes. However, except in extremely unlikely circumstances, I believe the second answer is no.

That's what we've said about Chris raping someone, and he goes out and forces his tiny fetid penis on his mother.

 

[dillybars]

I don’t think Chris has the impulse control or self awareness to either commit or hide from sight the fact he’s a chomo. If he were given the opportunity, he’d offend against a child.

 

[AntiSchwuletteAktion]

Yes he’s disgusting, but I really don’t think that he’s a full blown pedophile, with the incest leak,there was at least a logical buildup over the years and clues that Chris was being too handsy and uncomfortably close to her. There doesn’t seem to be any clear evidence over the years of Chris showing explicit sexual interest in minors. I’m not saying he hasnt probably once considered being attracted to teenage girls considering his sexual deviancy and history of drawing underage porn in his comics. But this all seems more of his childish mindset than any real pedo degeneracy. I think him being a nonce is a bit of a stretch, even for Chris.

Chris is only not a pedophile because he doesn't spend any time alone with underage girls.

 

[FinnSven]

Stop chasing trannies you freak.

Why?

Worried there will be none left for you?

 

[Smicneibn]

As we’re already aware of the continuation, do we have any clue why? I remember his GameStop Content Spray court date kept getting delayed and hitting that Jew Snyder with his car court date kept getting moved.

Is it just Virgina being as exceptional as it citizens or are the lawyers pushing it and making deals?

There is probably some kind of arrangement going on to have her placed in some kind of intensive treatment program at an undisclosed location probably with a change of identity. I don't really see anything else that would truly work.

 

[I am batman]

There is probably some kind of arrangement going on to have her placed in some kind of intensive treatment program at an undisclosed location probably with a change of identity. I don't really see anything else that would truly work.

I bet this undisclosed location is Area 51. The most top secret part of it, where they keep captured aliens from the Roswell crash and such.

 

[UzumakiLeaf]

Anything less than a firing squad against the wall next to Bella with Snyder calling the order is scot-free to some people.


Because she’s an elderly rape victim and family. It helps smooth some things over. Maybe they feel it’s their social/christian/family duty to at least get her situated somewhere.

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Reading through the thread it almost seems like people want Chris to be a pedo. It would make absolutely hating him justified and righteous.

After this, I think people have just lost faith in him having any sense of basic common decency (don't fuck your mom is something that should go without saying). I don't think people want him to be a pedo, but he really can't be trusted around anyone vulnerable. What he did to Barb shows he is someone who needs to be watched and not just by random weirdos on the internet.

 

[Skitterways]

There is probably some kind of arrangement going on to have her placed in some kind of intensive treatment program at an undisclosed location probably with a change of identity. I don't really see anything else that would truly work.

What kind of a location?
What kind of a treatment facility?
Why would the state of Virginia help Chris Chan change his/her/it's identity?

It was like pulling teeth to get Virginia to spell my name the way it was spelled since birth and on 2 other states' drivers licenses! You really think Virginia is going to help change someone's identity in an undisclosed facility at some super secret location? Gurl, get yourself together!

 

[AnxietyMachine]

Habeas corpus is Latin for "Get my client's fat ass out here, you slowpokes, you can't lock him up forever." But such a writ really only applies when a person is being held illegally, which Chris isn't.

Not exactly. An habeas corpus just means "my client shouldn't be detained right now". Not every crime necessitates that the accused party be restrained until judgement. If the accused isn't a risk to society or a flight risk, you could file for habeas corpus so they're free until they await judgement.
(At least in my country, not sure about the U.S.)

 

[A Grey Cat]

1. The prosecution is, in fact, trying to bring forth rape charges considering Chris basically admitting to it in his jail letters and showing no remorse whatsoever.

Do you honestly think anyone on the prosecution could make heads or tails of those letters beyond "I am and always have been Jesus?"

 

[Optimus Prime]

After this, I think people have just lost faith in him having any sense of basic common decency (don't fuck your mom is something that should go without saying). I don't think people want him to be a pedo, but he really can't be trusted around anyone vulnerable. What he did to Barb shows he is someone who needs to be watched and not just by random weirdos on the internet.

I agree, there's no way this could end with the involved parties coming to the decision that Chris can be allowed back to live completely unsupervised. Let's not forget that Chris took a knife to his own body twice trying to get a DIY sex change so by that alone he is a threat to himself as well as others in the wake of the macing incident and of course why he's in jail now. And while not documented I would have to assume there's been at least one episode of tard rage that occurred while incarcerated demonstrating Chris simply isn't all there mentally - the defense did ask for a continuance for more psych evaluations after all.

Right now my bet is the defense is having Chris burn time in jail for 'time served' so that as soon as a sentencing is passed (likely outside of Trial unless Chris is PARTICUARLY hell bent on making a show of 'innocence') he'll be whisked away to some assisted living facility instead of having to spend any more time behind bars. The biggest thing being that Chris has never shown any remorse over his actions and insists he is innocent, thus leaving the door open for him to commit the crime again on Barb or even worse on somebody else if he decides to up the ante - I'm recalling a story not too long ago about the guy who straight up decided to kidnap a girl and murdered her parents before doing so, I think it was up in Michigan some years back, and that piece of shit didn't exactly seem all 'there' either in the mugshot. But it's the blindingly obvious fact Chris will reoffend eventually that's the bigger question looming over his current circumstances, something Chris is completely oblivious to.

 

[khanmander]

Oh! Are they really just giving him a court hearing and an update? I thought he was standing trial and the courts don't want to be disturbed for the safety of everyone. Maybe the courts weren't sure the first time around (of course, since his evaluation) and to see the state of him, that day. It makes sense. Even if they have to bring someone in to assess Chris some more, they may take that into consideration because Chris keeps saying he's innocent, so if he keeps saying that, to see what they think. It helps not to put the burden onto the judge, which seems likely. May also explain why they're keeping future dates, private, out of safety of everyone who gets summoned on Chris's case.

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

I'm really torn on the whole thing. While I want Chris to experience justice, and I mean real justice, for what he did if he goes away that's the end of Christory. He'll either be locked up in a mental asylum or spend time in actual prison.

I don't see a case in which he's let go to go back home to his toys and stuff.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Chris will never admit he has a severe sex addiction, among which.

Fixed?

I don't see a case in which he's let go to go back home to his toys and stuff.

Looks like that's what Chris has been expecting. In the past he always got to go home and resume the "Life of Fail" after a brief stay in jail. Then half a dozen or so continuances later, he's pretty much off the hook, as if the incident never happened.

Sooner or later, he's going to see things aren't quite going to go that way this time.

 

[A-№1]

Before the Barb thing Chris was going to con's and getting some weird edge form of mainstream acceptance, finally making money from his infamy he had people seeking him out at cons, people commissioning artwork from him to use on album art, people writing books about him that where serious in nature, etc.

And he was also getting kicked out of those same cons long before ever having the slightest chance of being invited to a hypothetical party room.

The general public might be unaware of Chris' true nature, but anyone legally responsible for the convention would have done their homework on him lest they be sued for Chris' actions. It's their job.

Do you really think it's ok for Chris to act inappropriately towards anyone as long as he gets his ass kicked?

This is about Chris, not me. That said, I think getting his ass kicked would be a valuable lesson against committing such actions again in the future.

Moralizing about Chris is mental masturbation. Whatever you or I believe is inappropriate is irrelevant to Chris; he doesn't care. The point is that Chris himself thinks these inappropriate behaviors are OK, and there's only one way he's going to learn otherwise: immediate harsh consequences.

"Transphobia" in a theatre studies degree.

LOL

So they only do self loathing Noël Coward plays?

I‘d be most concerned about vulnerable women, like if he’s in a care home or shelter and they’re on a lot of meds or are a low functioning autistic or something like that, assumedly staff wouldn’t want Chris left alone with them but it’s not always possible.

The court isn't foolish enough to respect Chris' pronouns. He will be sent to a male-only facility.

Technically Chris IS a creepy uncle, he has a brother (not Cole the optometrist) who has a daughter.

Chris is an uncle, and Chris is creepy, but I think there has to be actual contact to achieve the Creepy Uncle trope. So far as I know, Dave looked at Chris' eyes once (probably for free knowing the Chandlers) and Chris and Barb failed to contact them at their home. Dave might have attended Bob's funeral, but not for the sake of Chris or Barb. Likely Dave Chandler is keeping his family as far from Chris as possible.

This is assuming rape charges don't get added.

If they do, Chris will have to be kicked up to the circuit court. i don't think they want to create that much more work for themselves.

The judge should punish Chris by breaking all his fucking toys

It's been done. To really punish Chris, leave his toys intact, but let Chris know they've been given away for someone else to enjoy.

Because she’s an elderly rape victim and family. It helps smooth some things over. Maybe they feel it’s their social/christian/family duty to at least get her situated somewhere.

I think it's just because she's family, and that's all the reason they need. Family ties like that can be pretty strong in tribal societies like you find in rural Virginia.

Also they may be trying to prevent any further contact with Chris by getting Barb fixed somewhere without him.

Reading through the thread it almost seems like people want Chris to be a pedo. It would make absolutely hating him justified and righteous.

And that prevents them from evaluating him objectively.

Do you honestly think anyone on the prosecution could make heads or tails of those letters beyond "I am and always have been Jesus?"

I doubt they even care. Besides, they have mental health consultants to dig through that shit.

he'll be whisked away to some assisted living facility instead of having to spend any more time behind bars.

There will be no whisking. Finding a placement somewhere can be a very long process. It's possible all these mental health evaluations the court is waiting on are actually interviews with various facilities and programs trying to work out if they want to take Chris on. So these continuances could simply be because the court has nowhere to put him yet.