Grand Jury speculation thread

[I swear she's 18]

Wouldn't his time served basically force them to charge him with a felony? It'll be over a year in the clink before he finally gets any closure on this.

Mightve been answered since I'm backtracking and it's going to fast. If I recall, not a legal expert btw, Chris can be released since he's already served the max for a misdemeanor. However it's up to the court to decide and with his current record so far. I'm going to say no to the release and bail. I could be wrong.

 

[ResignedCustodes]

@WolfKiller sorry I doubted you.

Holy shit.

 

[General Disarray]

There's a chance the public will be allowed to attend (Judge's Discretion) but it will not be streamed and no recording devices will be allowed. Best chance is for the Gunt to go and Killstream in the parking lot right after Chris pleads guilty/no contest to whatever deal was agreed to.

I used to work for court reporters. Grand Jury transcripts are handled very sensitively. There won't be livestreams (lol) and no one is getting copies of the transcripts, sorry to say.

§ 19.2-212. Provision for court reporter; use and disposition of notes, tapes and transcriptions.
A. A court reporter shall be provided for a special grand jury to record, manually or electronically, and transcribe all oral testimony taken before a special grand jury, but such reporter shall not be present during any stage of its deliberations. The notes, tapes and transcriptions of the reporter are for the sole use of the special grand jury, and the contents thereof shall not be divulged by anyone except as hereinafter provided. After the special grand jury has completed its use of the notes, tapes and transcriptions, the foreman shall cause them to be sealed, the container dated, and delivered to the court.

The court shall cause the sealed container to be kept safely. If any witness testifying before the special grand jury is prosecuted subsequently for perjury, the court, on motion of either the attorney for the Commonwealth or the defendant, shall permit them both to have access to the testimony given by the defendant when a witness before the special grand jury, and the testimony shall be admissible in the perjury case.

If no prosecution for perjury is instituted within three years from the date of the report of the special grand jury, the court shall cause the sealed container to be destroyed; however, on motion of the attorney for the Commonwealth, the court may extend the time period for destruction if the grand jury was impanelled at the request of the attorney for the Commonwealth.

B. Upon motion to the presiding judge, the attorney for the Commonwealth shall be permitted to review any evidence that was presented to the special grand jury, and shall be permitted to make notes and to duplicate portions of the evidence as he deems necessary for use in a criminal investigation or proceeding. The attorney for the Commonwealth shall maintain the secrecy of all information obtained from a review or duplication of the evidence presented to the special grand jury. Upon motion to the presiding judge by a person indicted after a special grand jury investigation, similar permission to review, note or duplicate evidence shall be extended if it appears that the permission is consistent with the ends of justice and is necessary to reasonably inform such person of the nature of the evidence to be presented against him, or to adequately prepare his defense.

Per: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacodefull/title19.2/chapter13/article3/

 

[TV's Adam West]

GUILTY, GUILTY THAT NIGGA IS GUILTY! HANG THAT NIGGA NOW, I GOT THE ROPE RIGHT HERE!

 

[Analog Devolved]

Shout out to my boy SmokymcCrack on youtube I know you're reading this shit.

 

[My Name is Mud]

Everyone here seems to think Chris is about to make a complete fool of himself in the court room.

Fellas. We've seen from troll call after troll call that when Chris is directly verbally lambasted for something, he utters his dumbass sigh and goes quiet and just hopes the other party shuts up. ESPECIALLY when it's presented in a calm and matter-of-fact manner like ABL did, and how I'd presume the court would be handling him.

In all likelihood, Chris just stays quiet and squirms around in his seat going "mmmh...nnggh...." for however many hours it takes while everyone else deals with his shit for him. If his defense knows what's good for him, they'd ensure that he doesn't get the chance to open his mouth all that much, too.

Yes but, for starters, we know he has thrown tantrums in front of a judge before, and secondly, knowing Chris, he has way more respect towards trolls calling him than jerkops and law officials. He views the law with such spite that he feels completely justified in showing no respect towards them.

 

[The Last Stand]

Barb? Given the heavy involvement of Barb's relatives and the nature of the crime, I highly doubt Chris will ever be allowed to see her again in person. At most, maybe a heavily supervised visit. But mommy dearest is essentially out of the picture in day to day life now.

That's a horrible, unfair comparison IMHO. All Mommie Dearest did was beat Christina with a wire hanger and feed her RARE steak. Barb smothered Chris from the outside world enough to have Chris commit INCEST to her on top of everything else.

They're both beyond saving at this point.

 

[Second-Hand Boat Supplies]

It depends on how often the grand jury meets. I can't find any information on how often it meets in Greene County. In extreme situations a special grand jury can be called, but I don't think Chris warrants that.

As I understand it, they can keep Chris in jail longer, since they clearly did a probable cause hearing today and thus they're proceeding as a felony.

Chris would only get out now if the prosecution decided not to send it to the grand jury.

Sorry if this has been addressed but what are the odds that this is “just” making good on the threat that should get a rational person to agree to a plea deal instead of an escalation on the part of the commonwealth? How likely is it that this is a result of Chris going rogue at the last second and rejecting the “time served” deal most people expected?

 

[Pointless Sperg]

I used to work for court reporters. Grand Jury transcripts are handled very sensitively. There won't be livestreams (lol) and no one is getting copies of the transcripts, sorry to say.

§ 19.2-212. Provision for court reporter; use and disposition of notes, tapes and transcriptions.
A. A court reporter shall be provided for a special grand jury to record, manually or electronically, and transcribe all oral testimony taken before a special grand jury, but such reporter shall not be present during any stage of its deliberations. The notes, tapes and transcriptions of the reporter are for the sole use of the special grand jury, and the contents thereof shall not be divulged by anyone except as hereinafter provided. After the special grand jury has completed its use of the notes, tapes and transcriptions, the foreman shall cause them to be sealed, the container dated, and delivered to the court.

The court shall cause the sealed container to be kept safely. If any witness testifying before the special grand jury is prosecuted subsequently for perjury, the court, on motion of either the attorney for the Commonwealth or the defendant, shall permit them both to have access to the testimony given by the defendant when a witness before the special grand jury, and the testimony shall be admissible in the perjury case.

If no prosecution for perjury is instituted within three years from the date of the report of the special grand jury, the court shall cause the sealed container to be destroyed; however, on motion of the attorney for the Commonwealth, the court may extend the time period for destruction if the grand jury was impanelled at the request of the attorney for the Commonwealth.

B. Upon motion to the presiding judge, the attorney for the Commonwealth shall be permitted to review any evidence that was presented to the special grand jury, and shall be permitted to make notes and to duplicate portions of the evidence as he deems necessary for use in a criminal investigation or proceeding. The attorney for the Commonwealth shall maintain the secrecy of all information obtained from a review or duplication of the evidence presented to the special grand jury. Upon motion to the presiding judge by a person indicted after a special grand jury investigation, similar permission to review, note or duplicate evidence shall be extended if it appears that the permission is consistent with the ends of justice and is necessary to reasonably inform such person of the nature of the evidence to be presented against him, or to adequately prepare his defense.

Per: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacodefull/title19.2/chapter13/article3/

I think we're talking more about future hearings in circuit court, not the grand jury.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I want Classic Chris back.
This trooned out, delusions of divinity, mother fucking version is just creepy and depressing, theres no fun here, no laughs, this is an extremely mentally ill mans mind shattering and life falling apart in full view of the entire goddam Internet.
Shits dark as fuck.
I need a fucking drink.

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

I used to work for court reporters. Grand Jury transcripts are handled very sensitively. There won't be livestreams (lol) and no one is getting copies of the transcripts, sorry to say.

Apologies, I should have been more clear. I was talking about the actual court case where Chris takes the plea. But thank you for information on the grand jury indictment process. I am not aware of a lot of the rules around that.

 

[Extreme Crusader]

What do you mean this footage of a guy named Liquid Chris is inadmissible? Judge, my client is the victim of a giant conspiracy against him, and he has every right to use this as evidence.

Judge: Your client is being accused of sexual assault and multiple counts of incest.

 

[The Cunting Death]

I used to work for court reporters. Grand Jury transcripts are handled very sensitively. There won't be livestreams (lol) and no one is getting copies of the transcripts, sorry to say.

§ 19.2-212. Provision for court reporter; use and disposition of notes, tapes and transcriptions.
A. A court reporter shall be provided for a special grand jury to record, manually or electronically, and transcribe all oral testimony taken before a special grand jury, but such reporter shall not be present during any stage of its deliberations. The notes, tapes and transcriptions of the reporter are for the sole use of the special grand jury, and the contents thereof shall not be divulged by anyone except as hereinafter provided. After the special grand jury has completed its use of the notes, tapes and transcriptions, the foreman shall cause them to be sealed, the container dated, and delivered to the court.

The court shall cause the sealed container to be kept safely. If any witness testifying before the special grand jury is prosecuted subsequently for perjury, the court, on motion of either the attorney for the Commonwealth or the defendant, shall permit them both to have access to the testimony given by the defendant when a witness before the special grand jury, and the testimony shall be admissible in the perjury case.

If no prosecution for perjury is instituted within three years from the date of the report of the special grand jury, the court shall cause the sealed container to be destroyed; however, on motion of the attorney for the Commonwealth, the court may extend the time period for destruction if the grand jury was impanelled at the request of the attorney for the Commonwealth.

B. Upon motion to the presiding judge, the attorney for the Commonwealth shall be permitted to review any evidence that was presented to the special grand jury, and shall be permitted to make notes and to duplicate portions of the evidence as he deems necessary for use in a criminal investigation or proceeding. The attorney for the Commonwealth shall maintain the secrecy of all information obtained from a review or duplication of the evidence presented to the special grand jury. Upon motion to the presiding judge by a person indicted after a special grand jury investigation, similar permission to review, note or duplicate evidence shall be extended if it appears that the permission is consistent with the ends of justice and is necessary to reasonably inform such person of the nature of the evidence to be presented against him, or to adequately prepare his defense.

Per: https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacodefull/title19.2/chapter13/article3/

thanks for clearing that up

 

[Aegeus]

some Elder Abuse

We have Chris on video shouting at his mom and parading her around like a puppet begging for donations.

We also have him taking money out of her bank accounts without her permission while the court issued a no-contact order against him.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Sorry if this has been addressed but what are the odds that this is “just” making good on the threat that should get a rational person to agree to a plea deal instead of an escalation on the part of the commonwealth? How likely is it that this is a result of Chris going rogue at the last second and rejecting the “time served” deal most people expected?

What do you mean “just”? If it’s gone this far a misdemeanor plea is off the table. And the Prosecutor has no reason to care if Chris changes his mind.

 

[D_Tractor]

It depends on how often the grand jury meets. I can't find any information on how often it meets in Greene County. In extreme situations a special grand jury can be called, but I don't think Chris warrants that.

As I understand it, they can keep Chris in jail longer, since they clearly did a probable cause hearing today and thus they're proceeding as a felony.

Chris would only get out now if the prosecution decided not to send it to the grand jury.

• https://www.vacourts.gov/courts/circuit/Greene/home.html
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• Terms begin 2nd Mon., Feb., April, June, Aug., Oct., & Dec. October Term: Tues. after 2nd Mon. as 2nd Mon. is a holiday
• Grand Juries, 1st day of Term, 9:00 a.m

The earliest it could be is Aug. 8

 

[Scarlett Johansson]

Will the goddess blue heart appear?

 

[mindlessobserver]

Somehow I don't think they'll be particularly eager to open it up any more than they have to.

By the way, thanks for posting. It seems you're much more familiar with Virginia than I am. I'd like more input from you to call me out when I'm being a retard, if you don't mind.

Eh, its not surprising most people don't know what's going on. Virginia's court set up is oddball. I think we are the only State in the country that handles Domestic dispute in the same court as Juvenile crimes. The fact this is getting transferred out of "Juvenile" court (which also handles Adult domestic disputes) is because the Commonwealths Attorney and/or the judge has decided the circumstances are too severe to be handled at a low level. Its entirely possible the Commonwealths Attorney didn't even want this moved but the judge overruled him or her. Not likely, but it is something that can happen.

Basically what this means is the State is done playing games with Chris and shit has gotten really serious for him, so lets hope he pays attention to his legal counsel. Its still entirely likely he ends up released at the other end of this in a few weeks time. However, the circumstances of that release are going to be VERY restrictive. Especially depending on the nature of the crimes he pleas out too in exchange for time served and parole. For example, the J&D court can't hand out 20 year sentences with 19 years suspended. The Circuit Court CAN. Which means Chris could be set free this year, and be given 19 years of Parole where he will be required to check in with Social Services on the regular, be put on the sex offender registry and so on.

 

[Black Yoshi]

I think Chris will go even crazier if he is locked up for ten years

In Virginia they let you out of prison after completing 80 percent of your sentence and the remainder is probation. So Chris could be in prison for 8 years in that case.

 

[AnOminous]

I hope Chris gets sentenced to constant anal rape for the full length of his sentence.