Grand Jury speculation thread

[oramge cat]

It's most likely rape at this point. They wouldn't go to a Grand Jury if they planned to charge him with diddly stuff. Chris almost certainly passed a mental evaluation as fit for trial and refused a plea deal. There won't be any more sympathy or talk about insanity. He refused the prosecutor's offer and the gloves are off now.

No. Incest can be a felony or a misdemeanor in Virginia, it's likely Chris just rejected a plea deal and the court upped the ante by moving it from a misdemeanor to a felony. It's also possible he's still being charged with a misdemeanor and has just decided to take the case to trial as apparently grand juries sometimes convene in Virginia for misdemeanors. If he has new charges, they're public record and we should know in a few days.

 

[Cheerlead-in-Chief]

Hmm.

It would appear that identifying as female does not automatically mean you're not less of a sexual predator.

I wish Chris could see this and seethe

 

[My Name is Mud]

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[Chazzed Up]

I didn't see it posted in the thread yet, but Chris' case is now viewable on the state court website. It appears the grand jury will convene on August 8.
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I didn't manage to pull it up, just a bunch of presumably actual female Christines with contrlled substance charges. Unless cum is a controlled substance, that can't be Chris. I probably fucked something up, will try again when I'm on desktop.

 

[EvilDroid64]

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ILPPP may be the University of Virginia Institute of Law, Psychiatry and Public Policy.

 

[Obsul]

A shame that it won't be broadcast like the Heard/Depp trial was.

 

[Wolpertinger]

You know I'm starting to think that Chris knows he's screwed.

He knows there's no Barb and no Temple left for him; that's part of the reason why he's not accepting the plea deal, because if he's going out he's going out his way.

That, or he's achieved the inner nirvana of a cult leader.

But I genuinely think at this point he's truly aware there's no 14BC left for him, even if he really does believe in his delusions.

I feel like it is either this, or Chris fully expects Barb to lie & attempt to get the charges revoked somehow for life to get back to normal. But I don't think Chris understands that if they have evidence proving otherwise, the victim taking back her testimony will likely not remove the charges.

 

[Ass Johnson]

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Looks like orders to continue remand (from each hearing), orders to transport to Western and restore competency, eval reports from Western, and a disposition notice of some sorts (which may be J&DR disposing of the case to send it up to circuit, but it's anybody's guess).

 

[ScaliasGhost]

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On first glance, nothing we don't already know. A lot of procedural stuff and court orders changing his custody to the hospital or to have him transported.

Edit*: that letter seems interesting. In most cases an attorney "speaks" through motions or pleadings, not through a letter to the court.

 

[NuancedTardWrangler]

So are they not charging him with rape, or is that something that can be added once they've compiled the evidence they need?

I think they’ll have to wait to charge him for rape. Even without the rape charge, felony incest will put him away for a long time

 

[R-2E-054]

I didn't see it posted in the thread yet, but Chris' case is now viewable on the state court website.

I looked up "Chandler" out of curiosity and holy shit, I didn't realize just how many charges Barb had on her record. I know she broke some laws for Chris or whatever, but damn.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

I looked up "Chandler" out of curiosity and holy shit, I didn't realize just how many charges Barb had on her record.

"Mother of the Year 2000"

 

[ScaliasGhost]

I didn't see it posted in the thread yet, but Chris' case is now viewable on the state court website. It appears the grand jury will convene on August 8.
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It looks like the grand jury will just be considering the felony version of the incest charges he already had. I think this lends credence to the theory he messed up or refused a plea effectively forced the prosecutor to file for a felony.

 

[Hopkinsville Goblin]

I looked up "Chandler" out of curiosity and holy shit, I didn't realize just how many charges Barb had on her record. I know she broke some laws for Chris or whatever, but damn.

It looks like there are at least three Barbara Chandlers. I doubt our Barb was distributing cocaine in 2008, and the third one is black.

 

[Catloaf]

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>incest w/ own child
lmao wat

 

[Yksi_Toveri]

I didn't see it posted in the thread yet, but Chris' case is now viewable on the state court website. It appears the grand jury will convene on August 8.
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I noticed under Pleadings/Orders that today's date has "To Close Pretrial Proceed". Now, I'm not sure if they mean to close the hearing to the public or if concluding pretrial. BUT this does verify no plea has been on the table yet.

 

[Thorgrim Grudgebearer]

>incest w/ own child
lmao wat

Incest with own parent happened so little that they just had to go with the closest charge they could find

"Well shit what will we put him in, we don't have that one in the list"

 

[mindlessobserver]

People need to remember him being insane is not enough to make him unfit for trial. He has to be so insane he literally cannot tell right from wrong. I don't think that applies here. He understands perfectly well everyone thinks what he did was abhorrent. He feels it's justified. He knows what right and wrong is. He just thinks he's in the right and everyone else is wrong. Yeah, that's insane, but not the kind of insanity that gets you out of court.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

>incest w/ own child
lmao wat

Incest with own parent happened so little that they just had to go with the closest charge they could find

They should've designed the software to allow for typing in a charge instead of selecting one from a menu.

 

[Catloaf]

They should've designed the software to allow for typing in a charge instead of selecting one from a menu.

It's probably bunch of boomers anyway lmao