Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

[Bob Barbas]

Don't you get wanted if you throw satchel charges in the middle of nowhere in SA? Not to say it makes it fine for V, just because something was bad in a past game, doesn't mean it should be kept bad for a latter one.

Do you? I wouldn't know because from what I remember in previous games the cop had to actually be there and physically witness you commit a crime to get a wanted level. (Outside of scripted moments of course.)
Though San Andreas has a lot of quirks so I wouldn't be surprised if explosives were the one exception to the rule.

 

[winderson_silva]

Started Undead Nightmare, focusing on melee, even though the melee combat in the game is garbage aside, it is pretty entertaining. While yeah, it was made to follow the zombie crazy of 2010, it clearly was a work of fun, the devs weren't just thinking "how much money can we get from the Cod Zombies players?"

Edit: what the hell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gR8Ctfl2M0

 

[Would]

GTA games have midwit writing that thinks it is Shakespeare.

GTA games had midwit writing that their fanboys glorified into Shakespeare, which got to the Houser’s head.

1/2/London/3/VC were not claiming to be high art nor intense social commentaries on America ( that snobby shit started with SA), they were inspired by pulp aesthetically and glorified 70s-90s American films and media.

I really wish retard fanboys never tossed the Houser’s salads so hard they shifted focus from making crime games to whatever the fuck you call RDR 2 and GTA V.

 

[Captain Syrup]

1/2/London/3/VC were not claiming to be high art nor intense social commentaries on America

It’s actually funny that GTA was basically correct. Between GTA 1 and GTA 2 the U.S. just ends, the corporations run everything now, nobody's safe in the streets.

 

[Bob Barbas]

1/2/London/3/VC were not claiming to be high art nor intense social commentaries on America

That's not what I'm talking about at least. I'm talking about the humor. We all know they ain't gonna be making tranny jokes in GTA 6 is all I'm saying.
I had no idea there were genuinely people who thought the GTA games were meant to be some kind of political statement until recently. Well, beyond America is a fucking nuthouse anyway. But you're right in that clearly the developers now also think so.

Speaking of I'm like 99% sure the GTA 6 delays are because Trump won considering one of the devs outright said some retarded shit like
>This game would immediately be outdated if Trump wins the elections
And then he did.

they were inspired by pulp aesthetically and glorified 70s-90s American films and media

That was when GTA was at its best imo when it was more or less just parodying movies and shit. The social commentary should just be relegated to humor. All the games imo really need to be is "Crime guy does crime things and cool shit happens." very watered down but in my opinion that's the core essence of GTA.

 

[Would]

We all know they ain't gonna be making tranny jokes in GTA 6 is all I'm saying.

Well yeah, they’d never make fun of themselves.

TBF I’d rather no tranny jokes than some limp, heres-a-weak-joke-so-we-can-claim-non-bias that is neither funny nor worth anyone’s time.

I had no idea there were genuinely people who thought the GTA games were meant to be some kind of political statement until recently.

It’s been a thing since SA.
Granted, the Housers did imply some loose political affiliations and leanings in SA and moving forward, but they weren’t there unless you went looking for them. And even then it was milquetoast 00s social lolbertarian/center-right economics leanings.

But the crazies were always there.
In fact, I’ve seen the same people who defended SA’s choice for a colored protagonist as an act of rebellion and push for progressivism in 2004, call SA a fascist-adjacent white-washed game that appropriated black culture (calling gang violence black culture does sound stupid to the casual observer, but even niggers will defend their gangs like this so who’s to say) for capitalist profit.
It’s unhinged.

That was when GTA was at its best imo when it was more or less just parodying movies and shit

Yes. This is why GTA III is timeless to me.

 

[Bob Barbas]

In fact, I’ve seen the same people who defended SA’s choice for a colored protagonist as an act of rebellion and push for progressivism in 2004

Tbh even at the time I'm surprised they had the restraint to make Tenpenny another nigger instead of a racist white guy.

 

[Crypt Kicker]

Tbh even at the time I'm surprised they had the restraint to make Tenpenny another nigger instead of a racist white guy.

If I recall tenpenny is directly inspired by an LA police officer that was one of the most corrupt cops in the CRASH unit back in the 90s who was also black. I think if the real life guy was directly linked to the Bloods as well.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

Tbh even at the time I'm surprised they had the restraint to make Tenpenny another nigger instead of a racist white guy.

In some degree of fairness, I'd imagine that choice depended entirely on when they got Sam Jackson to sign on to voice Tenpenny.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Also most of the time the police had to actually be there to physically SEE you commit the crime for it to count which is the biggest thing in V that pisses me off where all you have to do is shoot a gun a few times even in the middle of fucking nowhere without a silencer and suddenly you have a wanted level.
Whatever glue huffing intern thought that was acceptable should neck themselves.

That's one thing I will never understand is people insisting V has better gameplay than previous entries when it has dogshit like that in it. (Don't even get me started on how ass the car physics are or how retarded the enemy AI is compared to previous titles. Or you know, removing the ability to crouch for no reason forcing you to use their sometimes retarded cover system instead.)

The car physics are atrocious for a game that expects you to drive so much, let alone race!

If I recall tenpenny is directly inspired by an LA police officer that was one of the most corrupt cops in the CRASH unit back in the 90s who was also black. I think if the real life guy was directly linked to the Bloods as well.

The real life cop was on Suge Knight’s payroll as an enforcer.

 

[Crypt Kicker]

The real life cop was on Suge Knight’s payroll as an enforcer.

That's what it was and Suge had the Bloods connection.

 

[Samuel Fuller]

That's what it was and Suge had the Bloods connection.

Death Row Records was funded by Bloods crack money.

 

[Captain Syrup]

The real life cop was on Suge Knight’s payroll as an enforcer.

Was that Perez? The Rampart guy? He’s the cop Tenpenny is based on, and Denzel said he used him as inspiration for Alonzo in Training Day.

Well yeah, they’d never make fun of themselves. TBF I’d rather no tranny jokes than some limp, heres-a-weak-joke-so-we-can-claim-non-bias

GTA lost its balls a long time ago. I’m not saying it has to be '95 again where the whole vibe was raising Hell, but come on. We all know the next one’s gonna be Fast & Furious, "we’re a family” Robin Hood tripe.

The radio DJs are just there because the Zelnick checklist says “satire goes here.”

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Was that Perez? The Rampart guy? He’s the cop Tenpenny is based on, and Denzel said he used him as inspiration for Alonzo in Training Day.

GTA lost its balls a long time ago. I’m not saying it has to be '95 again where the whole vibe was raising Hell, but come on. We all know the next one’s gonna be Fast & Furious, "we’re a family” Robin Hood-type stupidity.

The radio DJs are just there because the Zelnick checklist says “satire goes here.”

It’s not Zelnick, it’s the brothers who founded DMA/Rockstar North. One of them thinks he’s the reincarnation of Jonathan Swift.

Good satire requires a true understanding of what you’re satirizing, and a smug Scotsman who has never even been to the US on vacation has no fucking clue about American culture when it comes to being able to truly satirize it, so all you get is lame attempts to mock the cliches that non-Americans think are truths.

I honestly don’t think anyone there has the balls to either do something truly funny or to do something truly gritty, so they half-ass both aspects.

 

[The Last Stand]

Edit: what the hell?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gR8Ctfl2M0

Gee, it's not like Rockstar or Take Two watches YouTube videos.

It’s actually funny that GTA was basically correct. Between GTA 1 and GTA 2 the U.S. just ends, the corporations run everything now, nobody's safe in the streets.

It's funny until you noticed that repeat offenders get out of jail relatively quickly. I make the joke that America is turning into a GTA server BECAUSE of that.

 

[winderson_silva]

For base RDR1, I finished it on Extreme, and really, I don't get what changed besides dying faster, so it is quite a pointless difficulty. Also, I hate that the localization team changed "The Last Enemy to be Destroyed" to "End of the Line" in the version I've played; they kept the biblical names for every other mission, except this one.

I waited until it was raining to face Ross; it really set up the vibe.

Saw the protagonists on the first GTA, and you know, we need another game where you had protagonists that look like this, just absolute El Ogro de las Americas

 

[Crypt Kicker]

For base RDR1, I finished it on Extreme, and really, I don't get what changed besides dying faster, so it is quite a pointless difficulty. Also, I hate that the localization team changed "The Last Enemy to be Destroyed" to "End of the Line" in the version I've played; they kept the biblical names for every other mission, except this one.

"End of the Line" was the final story mission in GTA San Andreas.
Maybe they got their wires crossed?

 

[Captain Syrup]

Saw the protagonists on the first GTA, and you know, we need another game where you had protagonists that look like this, just absolute El Ogro de las Americas

GTA1 the only GTA where you’re not some cool guy. You’re an errand boy getting abused by increasingly insane guys with ethnic gimmicks.



In the re-releases you could pick women characters and Houser was like, “Alright, that was gay,” and never did it again. I always pick the Travis Bickle guy because it feels right. You do drive a taxi! And then, “By the way, kill the president.” No buildup.

 

[Would]

It's funny until you noticed that repeat offenders get out of jail relatively quickly.

Who can argue with Rosenberg and his amazing alibis?

 

[Captain Syrup]

Who can argue with Rosenberg and his amazing alibis?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rS5aoTQQVUk:9

Imagine Ken in an actual courtroom. He walks in sweating like a Coke Zero can in Miami. He thinks cross-examination is just yelling “ISN’T IT TRUE” and "THIS IS A WITCH HUNT", and the bailiff tazes him.