Grand Theft Auto Grieving Thread - Yep, I've been drinkin' again...

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Favorite GTA?

  • Grand Theft Auto

    Votes: 63 2.3%

  • Grand Theft Auto: London 1969

    Votes: 59 2.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto 2

    Votes: 113 4.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto III

    Votes: 222 8.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City

    Votes: 785 28.5%

  • Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas

    Votes: 1,105 40.1%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Advanced

    Votes: 14 0.5%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories

    Votes: 81 2.9%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Vice City Stories

    Votes: 77 2.8%

  • Grand Theft Auto IV

    Votes: 716 26.0%

  • Episodes From Liberty City (The Lost & Damned and The Ballad of Gay Tony)

    Votes: 218 7.9%

  • Grand Theft Auto V

    Votes: 400 14.5%

  • Grand Theft Auto: Online

    Votes: 98 3.6%

  • My Mother's My Sister!

    Votes: 327 11.9%
  • Total voters
    2,754
The Last Stand said:
You want a literal take on Vice City from the source, I highly recommend Scarface: The World is Yours. Scarface's Miami is barren compared to R*'s colorful Vice City, but it is an authentic, engaging experience of open world licensed gameplay.

Even if you haven't seen the movie, it's an enjoyable game in its own right. Hell, I'd consider it a sequel TO it.
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Haven't we talked about it in here? I thought we had a discussion about how GTA Online had stolen elements of Scarface: The World Is Yours wholesale.

If not, now people know. Look it up. You might be surprised how many things Scarface did 7 years earlier and much much better.
 
X Pac Heat said:
Haven't we talked about it in here? I thought we had a discussion about how GTA Online had stolen elements of Scarface: The World Is Yours wholesale.
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I haven't seen one. And I frequent this place. GTA Online stole a lot from its clones and made it worse.

Tell us.
 
The Last Stand said:
I haven't seen one. And I frequent this place. GTA Online stole a lot from its clones and made it worse.

Tell us.
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One of the smaller things are the gang battles or whatever they are called in GTA Online. They were big when the game first came off then I guess just forgotten about. It's those red circles in freeroam where if you go there and kill a few gang members you trigger a big attack. Those are a big element of Scarface and I think taking them out paid big money. I can't remember if it also reduced your gang heat or if you could just use the money to reduce the gang heat to help keep them away during your money collections.

Speaking of which, GTA Onlines whole "business" system is basically a wholesale rip off of Scarface main gameplay loop, but it's actually fun. (or at least more fun that GTA Online)

You buy some drugs. At the start you're buying from small time suppliers in Miami but you quickly begin having to make deals in the Caribbean and have to smuggle it back to Miami avoiding gangs and coastguard. After you've smuggled it, your fronts sell it. Then you have to go around collecting the money from all your businesses while avoiding cops and gangs.

What made it more fun and rewarding was instead of being given weird missions and having no choice in vehicles to do said money runs, you're basically choosing which areas to collect from and were able to choose from any vehicle you'd bought up to this point. Imagine if GTA Online actually let you use the vehicles you spend millions on to actually play the main loop, it might actually seem like you're building towards something.

Here's a quick vid showing it off.


Scarface even has the exact same money feature as GTA Online where you need to put your money in a bank (launder it) to save it. Otherwise if you get killed, you lose everything you're holding.

It's why I've kind of reached the point of not caring about GTA VI. If the rumors of "Americas" are true, it's just going to be a prettier Scarface with way more boring cutscenes, dialogue, and probably shitty griefers and microtransactions getting in the way
 
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X Pac Heat said:
One of the smaller things are the gang battles or whatever they are called in GTA Online. They were big when the game first came off then I guess just forgotten about. It's those red circles in freeroam where if you go there and kill a few gang members you trigger a big attack.
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That's similar to the gang territory mechanics in GTA San Andreas which came out first. Is there something that would make it more like Scarface than San Andreas?
 
Scarface was ahead of the times. The idea that Rockstar needed to create Trevor in order for it to "make sense" to go on rampages in the story or whatever? Well, Tony can't actually kill innocents intentionally which was them trying to stay true to the character as he didn't want to kill the woman and her children in the film. However, you can hire a driver, hitman and assassin that you can play as who have no such qualms or limitations. The assassin is also a woman, so Scarface even beat out Saints Row when it came to having female playable characters in the open world crime game.

Man I love Scarface: The World is Yours. I should replay it again.
 
Jack Awful said:
That's similar to the gang territory mechanics in GTA San Andreas which came out first. Is there something that would make it more like Scarface than San Andreas?
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Mostly the mechanics of it. In San Andreas you just have to kill gang members anywhere in the territory to trigger it. In Scarface and GTA Online you have to be in a specific area, and often it's in out of the way locations like alleyways or parking lots or construction zones and such.

GTA Online feels much more like Scarface than GTA San Andreas to me because of that. Plus I think the way the enemies come at your is more similar but you could chalk that up to just a mechanic or engine thing with San Andreas.
 
ProblematicUser420 said:
Scarface was ahead of the times. The idea that Rockstar needed to create Trevor in order for it to "make sense" to go on rampages in the story or whatever? Well, Tony can't actually kill innocents intentionally which was them trying to stay true to the character as he didn't want to kill the woman and her children in the film. However, you can hire a driver, hitman and assassin that you can play as who have no such qualms or limitations. The assassin is also a woman, so Scarface even beat out Saints Row when it came to having female playable characters in the open world crime game.

Man I love Scarface: The World is Yours. I should replay it again.
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That goes back to the whole "let the game make sense with the story" thing I was talking about. It was jarring at first, but makes sense.

Underrated open world title.
 
JamesFargo said:
Sounds like something you have to experience to believe. The gameplay videos really don't do it justice.
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It's a lot of fun, most of the videos feature people who have probably gotten the best vehicles in the game and have mastered all the routes and such.

Or maybe you'll hate it. I dunno, it's better than GTA Online but I guess that might not be saying much since GTA Online was basically copying a 10 year old system 5 years ago but throwing in hoops and hurdles to push microtransactions on top of jet griefers.
 
X Pac Heat said:
Or maybe you'll hate it. I dunno
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You never know. I think shouty Pacino threw me. I didn't grow up watching Scarface. He seems too over-the-top for his own game, with his goofy accent and aggressive mannerisms.
 
X Pac Heat said:
That's not Pacino
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Oh, so you're the brains around here, I take it? :|

Yes, Pacino lent his likeness to the game, not his voice. (It's harder for him to reach that place vocally.) What I meant to say is, Scarface is full of these Shakespearean-type characters. Pacino's overacting really makes the movie, but when you transplant 'him' into a game, the NPCs are kind of subdued.

But like I said, I just watched the cutscenes play. The Warriors and Godfather were home runs, so I will give this one a shot.
 
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JamesFargo said:
Yes, Pacino lent his likeness to the game, but not his voice. He's old now, and it's harder to reach that place vocally. What I meant to say is, Scarface is full of these Shakespearean-type characters. Pacino's overacting really makes the movie, but when you transplant 'him' into a game, the NPCs are kind of subdued.
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Stop playing games for story and NPC's, faggot. :P
 
X Pac Heat said:
Stop playing games for story and NPC's, faggot. :P
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X Pac Heat said:
Speaking of which, GTA Onlines whole "business" system is basically a wholesale rip off of Scarface main gameplay loop, but it's actually fun. (or at least more fun that GTA Online)

You buy some drugs. At the start you're buying from small time suppliers in Miami but you quickly begin having to make deals in the Caribbean and have to smuggle it back to Miami avoiding gangs and coastguard. After you've smuggled it, your fronts sell it. Then you have to go around collecting the money from all your businesses while avoiding cops and gangs.

What made it more fun and rewarding was instead of being given weird missions and having no choice in vehicles to do said money runs, you're basically choosing which areas to collect from and were able to choose from any vehicle you'd bought up to this point. Imagine if GTA Online actually let you use the vehicles you spend millions on to actually play the main loop, it might actually seem like you're building towards something.

Here's a quick vid showing it off.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=QHHn6j1RjZc
Scarface even has the exact same money feature as GTA Online where you need to put your money in a bank (launder it) to save it. Otherwise if you get killed, you lose everything you're holding.

It's why I've kind of reached the point of not caring about GTA VI. If the rumors of "Americas" are true, it's just going to be a prettier Scarface with way more boring cutscenes, dialogue, and probably shitty griefers and microtransactions getting in the way
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Man, that Scarface game looks fun, at the time I just dismissed it as a Vice City clone. I may need to actually give it a try at some point.
 
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Here's a question I wondered back in the day: can a car actually catch fire from flipping over? How?
 
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