Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[obsdj]

For those keeping an eye peeled on Cox v. Sony, the parties have requested an extension of time for the briefs to be filed. These are the requested deadline dates:


See attached for the letter submitted to the SCOTUS clerk. I'm guessing Hardin's anticipated amicus brief will be filed either in support of Cox or in support of neither party, in which case his deadline to file will be seven days after Cox files their brief. Not a lot of time for him to pull it together!

 

[Fetch!]

I'm guessing Hardin's anticipated amicus brief will be filed either in support of Cox or in support of neither party, in which case his deadline to file will be seven days after Cox files their brief. Not a lot of time for him to pull it together!

SCOTUS with that low-key Tsundere energy for all the poor "Friends of the Court" hoping for a crumb of acknowledgement.
They must really get absolutely buried under these briefs on the big-name cases.

 

[cromit]

Judges face elections

Not these, they’re appointed by the Senate (if district) or hired based on the recommendation of a committee (magistrate). And the only way to forcibly remove a constitutionally-appointed judge is through impeachment. Not all states have elections for their state-level judges, or not for all tiers of the system. And even if there are elections, governors retain the power to make interim appointments in the case of death or retirement.

All this to say that the judges in this case are deliberately as insulated from politics as possible, so they can make the difficult, correct-but-unpopular rulings, but it also makes them pretty far removed from accountability to the people who suffer for their incorrect rulings.

 

[Harvey Danger]

Whoever posted a link to the Courtlistener RSS feed upthread really did me a solid. Don't have to F5, just let the machine do the work.

That was a callback to the Vic Mignogna case, that spent nearly 2 years waiting for an appeal judgement before they affirmed the district judge's retard ruling. The Appeals court dropped their decisions on Thursdays, leading to many Thursdays of hopeful spam even less informative than this thread (if you can believe such a thing).

Point is the length of time it takes a judge to give a decision does not positively correlate to that decision's quality.

 

[obsdj]

All this to say that the judges in this case are deliberately as insulated from politics as possible, so they can make the difficult, correct-but-unpopular rulings, but it also makes them pretty far removed from accountability to the people who suffer for their incorrect rulings.

They may not have to answer to voters, but they do care very much about being overruled by the appeals courts.

Meanwhile, SCOTUS quickly agreed to the requested briefing deadlines for Cox v. Sony. Just a bit over a month away for petitioner's brief. It would be funny if we got to see Hardin's amicus before we see the resolution of this case.

 

[Greasy Goblin]

They may not have to answer to voters, but they do care very much about being overruled by the appeals courts.

Meanwhile, SCOTUS quickly agreed to the requested briefing deadlines for Cox v. Sony. Just a bit over a month away for petitioner's brief. It would be funny if we got to see Hardin's amicus before we see the resolution of this

I have to assume these judges are extremely stupid or aren't the type to care about their legacy at all. To hell with the appeals court, you'd think that when legal support for Greee descended from on high it would tip them off that he was a patsy for some greater scheme, and that continued tard-guarding would inevitably result in them and their rulings being called stupid in front of the SUPREME court with their retardation forever enshrined in common law! So they're either very humble and defending shitlips is a cause so noble it withstands ridicule or... more likely... they just aren't very bright...

 

[AnOminous]

Just a headsup, the Courtlistener feed only updates if someone with the RECAP extension buys the document on PACER. So, chances are, it's going to be posted here first.

Actually, Courtlistener very recently introduced actual notifications for updates to the docket from the rss feeds for PACER sites.

https://www.courtlistener.com/help/alerts/#recap-alerts

You can also set up workflows for manually keeping up with particular PACER rss feeds, filtering them, and reporting new entries to some third source, but this is fairly cumbersome.

Not these, they’re appointed by the Senate (if district) or hired based on the recommendation of a committee (magistrate).

All Article III judges from District Court Judges on up are appointed directly by the President. It is up to the Senate to confirm.

I have to assume these judges are extremely stupid or aren't the type to care about their legacy at all. To hell with the appeals court, you'd think that when legal support for Greee descended from on high it would tip them off that he was a patsy for some greater scheme, and that continued tard-guarding would inevitably result in them and their rulings being called stupid in front of the SUPREME court with their retardation forever enshrined in common law! So they're either very humble and defending shitlips is a cause so noble it withstands ridicule or... more likely... they just aren't very bright...

To the contrary. Both sides are approvingly citing the case as precedent. Thanks to it being as coherent as reading entrails, they're both claiming it supports their side. They're both shitty shysters but appear to have a grasp how to throw a wrench in the works to create chaos that will benefit the world for corporations while fucking over humanity.

 

[Irene and 22 others]

They may not have to answer to voters, but they do care very much about being overruled by the appeals courts.

How much do they really though? Ever since Trump was inaugurated there's been a handful of judges ruling against anything Trump does even though they end up getting stayed or overturned on appeals. They don't seem overly bothered by the Supreme Court telling them to knock it the fuck off either. Not every judge is going to be a political activist in a robe and I suspect that many do really care about the law in their own way, but the biggest punishment that they could receive from being overturned on appeal is having this case kicked back down to them so they can suffer through it along with everyone else involved.

More on topic, is there a particular timeframe (beyond the standard one) that Hardin would need to respond to Greer's motion for sanctions to notify the court that Greer fucked up the procedure again and the motion should therefor be denied? It makes sense that he would want to slow play this, but it doesn't seem like his response would take much time to put together (it's basically the same thing he filed in ECF 265 and 270) and in the past he's typically responded to something like this already. If he's busy with anything else, it's also understandable that this could be put on the back burner for week.

 

[Iron Hamster]

Meads v. Meads. It's a Canadian dissertation on SovCits and it's kino.

The bane of Bob Menard's existence.

 

[AnOminous]

Meads v. Meads. It's a Canadian dissertation on SovCits and it's kino.

One of maybe three cases from Canada that I give a single shit about. Read it if you love to see a novel-length takedown of every retarded legal argument sovcits make. Fun fact: even in Canada, retard sovcits refer to the Uniform Commercial Code, which isn't even law in the United States.

 

[goblin enby]

More on topic, is there a particular timeframe (beyond the standard one) that Hardin would need to respond to Greer's motion for sanctions to notify the court that Greer fucked up the procedure again and the motion should therefor be denied? It makes sense that he would want to slow play this, but it doesn't seem like his response would take much time to put together (it's basically the same thing he filed in ECF 265 and 270) and in the past he's typically responded to something like this already. If he's busy with anything else, it's also understandable that this could be put on the back burner for week.

As he's done on previous occasions, Hardin has probably emailed Greee to give him an opportunity to voluntarily withdraw his improperly prematurely filed motion before Hardin has to further shit up the docket by filing a response to it. I don't think we'll see a response until Greee evidently isn't withdrawing anything because he never does.

 

[Debbie Macomber]

Hilarious that Greer has become a landmark case discussed in legal journals and cited in the Supreme Court, but the lawsuit Russell himself will always be most well known for is suing Taylor Swift!

 

[jerkstore]

Hilarious that Greer has become a landmark case discussed in legal journals and cited in the Supreme Court, but the lawsuit Russell himself will always be most well known for is suing Taylor Swift!

russell greer isn’t actually “known,” generally, for anything beyond reddit (which i don’t believe follows him anymore), encyclopedia dramatica (which i also am not sure follows him/updates his page there anymore) and his kiwi farms pages. i think that’s truly his biggest beef. his legit only followers are the ones who constantly expose him at this point - kiwi farms.

 

[Watching Rekieta]

russell greer isn’t actually “known,”

Russell's infamy is ahead of him. It might be the Great Brothel Rezoning Fire of 2034. Or possibly the Olive Garden Bottomless Pasta and Prostitutes Famine. Russell might even venture into a career in AI after he initiates cascade failure in facial recognition software. He might even find a second career in poker if he can stop himself from drooling out a "Blackjack!" scream on the river. Regardless, the future is bright(er).

 

[thegunbuilderguy]

For those keeping an eye peeled on Cox

Thanks for the heads up! Nobody stares at cox all day like you do.

 

[The Un-Clit]

God I hope Hardin responds before the padlock has to come out again.

 

[Napoleon III]

More on topic, is there a particular timeframe (beyond the standard one) that Hardin would need to respond to Greer's motion for sanctions to notify the court that Greer fucked up the procedure again and the motion should therefor be denied? It makes sense that he would want to slow play this, but it doesn't seem like his response would take much time to put together (it's basically the same thing he filed in ECF 265 and 270) and in the past he's typically responded to something like this already. If he's busy with anything else, it's also understandable that this could be put on the back burner for week.

Please see post below from the page before this one.

I'm pretty sure there are no actual deadlines at this stage, except that if Hardin is going to respond to Greer's latest sanctions motion, he needs to do so within 14 days of the motion

I have to assume these judges are extremely stupid or aren't the type to care about their legacy at all. To hell with the appeals court, you'd think that when legal support for Greee descended from on high it would tip them off that he was a patsy for some greater scheme, and that continued tard-guarding would inevitably result in them and their rulings being called stupid in front of the SUPREME court with their retardation forever enshrined in common law! So they're either very humble and defending shitlips is a cause so noble it withstands ridicule or... more likely... they just aren't very bright...

I mean you can get away with being retarded if no one calls you out over it. The Supreme Court did deny Kf's petition for Certiorari. It isn't a given that the Supreme Court will cancel the precedent set in this newest lawsuit. Granted copyright cases are so important that it obviously was going to be used as precedent at some point which is actually part of the reason Null tried to appeal it. The precedent is another level of retardation that would live on even if this case ended right now.

To the contrary. Both sides are approvingly citing the case as precedent. Thanks to it being as coherent as reading entrails, they're both claiming it supports their side. They're both shitty shysters but appear to have a grasp how to throw a wrench in the works to create chaos that will benefit the world for corporations while fucking over humanity.

TBF what would you do if you had to deal with the retarded precedent set by Greer v Moon? You can't say that decision by a circuit court is completely fucking retarded and should be ignored. The best you can do is also cite it as precedent and hope that both sides citing it cancels it out.

That was a callback to the Vic Mignogna case, that spent nearly 2 years waiting for an appeal judgement before they affirmed the district judge's retard ruling. The Appeals court dropped their decisions on Thursdays, leading to many Thursdays of hopeful spam even less informative than this thread (if you can believe such a thing).

I'm not trying to relitigate the Vic Lasgagna case. But I think a lot of the blame for the failures of his lawsuit comes from his retard lawyer. I think it could be reasonably argued that both the District Judge and the Appeals court weren't being super unfair. Again I don't want to relitigate that so much as to say that I think some people myself included blame, Ty Beard, Vic's lawyer rather than the Judge and the Appeals Court.