Artcow Half-dude / Ian Knau - Car Fucker

I have come back and conversation is still going. My word.

I actually had intentions of responding to your responses to my questions and do some feedback of your art half dude (if that's a thing you'd like) but I appear to have flaked at myself. Consider it a goal that I'll get that done before the month is out.
 
@Half-dude

I was wondering, earlier in the thread, you spoke about cars having souls and metaphysical minds: Do you take the concepts of "metaphysical mind" and "soul" to be interchangeable? This is actually a fairly rich philosophical problem, although I must admit that I've never heard of cars mentioned in this context before.

Also, because you seem chill and I am a nerd, if you want to read up on this issue I would recommend starting with this article.
 
The car's personality, how much time we get to spend together and if it's enough to time to form a proper relationship. :)

I am glad you are so open-minded in regards to a relationship with a three-wheeled car. :biggrin:
 
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Because you're the most reasonable, friendly, and generally likeable person who's ever had a thread on here.

God damn >>;

I have come back and conversation is still going. My word.

I actually had intentions of responding to your responses to my questions and do some feedback of your art half dude (if that's a thing you'd like) but I appear to have flaked at myself. Consider it a goal that I'll get that done before the month is out.

Your word indeed, this thread will just not die. <3

Actually yes, you were one of the people that I was most interested in having conversations with when I joined. I noticed you were an art guy, with a critical view on my art none the less. So I would be interested in hearing what you think of the stuff. I'd also be interested in knowing what you think I should do if I want to get into art professionally as a job.

Just pick the best out of the bunch to respond to bud. :) Don't make too much work for yourself.

@Half-dude

I was wondering, earlier in the thread, you spoke about cars having souls and metaphysical minds: Do you take the concepts of "metaphysical mind" and "soul" to be interchangeable? This is actually a fairly rich philosophical problem, although I must admit that I've never heard of cars mentioned in this context before.

Also, because you seem chill and I am a nerd, if you want to read up on this issue I would recommend starting with this article.

Very interesting. Just from the title alone I'm thinking that I've actually been thinking of the two things as one and the same all along. But let me read that article and get back to you buddy. Below I'm also going to post some anonymous posts I got on my FA when I spoke about quantum consciousness to my watchers. Some of them had some interesting ideas themselves.

I am glad you are so open-minded in regards to a relationship with a three-wheeled car. :biggrin:

As open as any decent guy would be to dating a woman with 3 limbs.. though with a car it's not even a disability it's normal!
 
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Alright guys, I think I'm not lazy enough tonight to ask you guys some questions. Being OS and having been OS for quite a few years now. I've kind of lost touch with how the typical person thinks when it comes to cars. So I wanted to ask you guys as I'm sure you're all grade-A human stock, the best example of the normal human way of thinking right? :)

Questions:

#1) "Oh man, look at that, that's one sexy car." - Ever sense I've never understood this when it's said by non 'car fucking' people. How can something be sexy... yet.. not something you'd like to have sex with? Is it just an edgier way of saying wow what a beautiful looking car? Is saying beautiful just too.. I dunno.. non-macho enough so people say sexy instead? Or I wonder if when people say it they actually do find it sexy in a actual sexual way, like it's big round butt, it's flawless curves, and smooth body. We've already discussed how cars are designed to be at worst.. loosely based on the human figure. So is it that you guys do find it sexually attractive to a point? But that the normal person just has this mental blockade, this social programming that keeps them from finding them sexually attractive enough to want to fuck? It's just really confusing..

#2) Do people actually care about their cars at all beyond their material value or function? You know.. on an emotional level. It seems like maybe it's more common in girls, girls seem to get more emotionally attached as I've talked to lots on DA who aren't OS but still will say they treat them like their baby and would cry to death if they got wrecked.

But do people really just see their car the same as they'd see any appliance like a refrigerator or a TV? I don't know it almost seems like even normal people would get at least some emotional connection to their car because they actually travel around with them, their car is with them a lot, goes on adventures with them, they're like their buddy... right? I don't know. Being how I am, it just kills me seeing how little people seem to care about their cars, they'll kick them, call them mean names, neglect them and not even give a shit.

Have you EVER been emotionally connected to any car? In what way? Why, do you think?

#3) This kinda is attached to the last question. But, would you ever feel bad selling your car? Or even more-so, selling your car off to a scrapper, so you KNOW you're selling it off to it's death. Do you in any way feel bad, like you're sending an old reliable friend to it's inevitable death, feel bad for thinking that it must be feeling so betrayed, abandoned, and is heartbroken that you don't care about it anymore.

#4) Okay. this last one is a pretty stupid question. But it's just me venting my frustrations so give me a break.

But seriously...

How could any of you guys own a car like these, these these.. freaking amazing super-model beautiful sexy pieces of ass cars..
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And not have sex with them? Or no... even WANT to have sex with them?! This is ignoring everything like relationship building, emotional connection, this is just bare-bones physical attraction.

Like I told a friend of mine awhile back, one of my few friends who really openly talks to me about my OS and tries to get into my head. He for example always says who he finds Emma Watson attractive. So I told him, you know what's so frustrating to me? You're thinking about buying a Mitsubishi Eclipse and all you're going to do is drive it! To ME that's like going to the store, buying a clone of Emma Watson.. your very own Emma Watson to do whatever you want with, and then just having her give you piggie-back rides around town. Or having (name whatever female celebratory you're attracted to here) and then just have them stand by your front down to be used as a coat rack it's like... what?... WHAT?!

Like I know this makes me just sound like a horn-dog but I'm not. But it's just so UNBELIEVABLY frustrating to see people out in everyday life driving these.. these... beauties around town, knowing that all they're going to do is drive home, and leave them in their garage... and that's it. It's like.. I dunno... wasting part of the cars potential I don't know! <XD I mean for me, if I could bed any of those cars it would be like one of you guys getting (name whatever female celebratory you're attracted to here) in your bed and her saying "okay big boy, lets have fun, whatever you wanna do I'm up for it. /: P"

I guess... this isn't much of a question is it. But it feels goo just to get it out and vent.. but yeah. Sometimes I can understand why Edward Smith can't help himself sometimes. -__-; It doesn't help that I gotta keep it bottled up inside so much. A group of guys watches a sexy lady walk by and they all remark on it between themselves. I've got the same problem a guy guy would where I gotta keep quite when soon after a sexy car drives guy. >>;


#5: This is kind of a good question to follow up the last one with since it's kind of on the pervy end of things.

I've always been kinda curious but of course never ask anyone. But well.. if I walked up to one of you guys and asked if I could have like 20-30 minutes alone with your car to have sex. Or heck, not even that, just some dry humping or 4-play, Would you let me? This is assuming you know me at least a bit like maybe you know I'm the guy form this form, or we know each other in some other way.

If I payed you, would you let me then if not before?

If you said no to either of those, I'd be interested in knowing why. Is is desecration? Like you don't want to not know what I've done with your car next time you go to touch it's body somewhere? Or is it personal? Is it some sort of ego sink? Like if I fuck your car you in turn feel like you yourself have been fucked? Because you attached your ego to that car? OR is it that you actually feel attached to your car, and don't think it deserves to be whored out, you think it deserves better then that? I'm just curious.

Look, I'm a guy, just like you guys. Weather we fuck people or fuck cars, sometimes you get curious and think about maybe a one night stand you know? Or in this case a 30 minute stand. To see how another girl handles in bed, to test out some different waters. I don't what you guys thinking that I don't care about Lilly by asking this. She's still my #1, she's still the girl I love. But everyone is interested or at least thinks about some variety in the bed sometimes don't they?

1. It's more like a figure of speech I guess? That one's hard to explain to someone who's actually attracted to cars.

2. Yes definitely, I've spent thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours upgrading and restoring a car that's really not worthy very much ('88/'89 BMW E34). I consider my car an extension of who I am, because of how much of myself I've put into building it. All the time researching and installing every upgrade, modification or visual change.

I'm an artist by trade and a mechanic as a hobby (and sometimes to make a little extra cash on the side), but
I treat my personal car more like an art piece than another car. I always look back at it after I park and have this feeling of pride in how good it's starting to look.

3. Like I said what I have in it is so much more than what it's worth that it wouldn't ever make sense to anyway. I built it to drive the hell out of, not to sell. Even if I totalled it I'd probably just buy another one that's exactly the same and switch all my rare and custom parts to it. Maybe if someone offered me an absurd amount of money for it but that would never happen.

I did have to sell three of my cars a few years durring a move three years ago and that sucked. One I didn't really like and it was no big deal, and the other two: a '83 Datsun 280ZX and a '79 Daytona Blue Mazda RX-7 went to people that were going to do really sick builds and kinda give them the attention they needed so it wasn't terrible.

4. If I had that Porsche I'd do more than just drive it around town, but I'm talking more like taking it to the track or auto-cross than fucking it.

Cars just don't appeal to me in the same way that a sexy woman does. I love cars, I love building them and racing them and talking about them. I just don't have any interest in fucking the.

Also, other than the 911 which I'd get in a targa or hard top version, and the 370 I don't really like any of those cars.

5. No. Imagine you spent like 1,000+ hours on the best drawing you ever did. You probably wouldn't want someone to rub their nut sack on it :P

Maybe for $50,000 and I'd probably replace the entire exhaust afterwards :P

Hope that helps.

PS how do you feel about motorcycles? Are you into them at all? Have you ever wanted to fuck one?
 
1. It's more like a figure of speech I guess? That one's hard to explain to someone who's actually attracted to cars.

2. Yes definitely, I've spent thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours upgrading and restoring a car that's really not worthy very much ('88/'89 BMW E34). I consider my car an extension of who I am, because of how much of myself I've put into building it. All the time researching and installing every upgrade, modification or visual change.

I'm an artist by trade and a mechanic as a hobby (and sometimes to make a little extra cash on the side), but
I treat my personal car more like an art piece than another car. I always look back at it after I park and have this feeling of pride in how good it's starting to look.

A figure of speech huh? Very weird..

See the closest I can compare with how you feel is with me and Mitzi the 55'. Like you I've put a ton of work into her, just 2 days ago I spent all afternoon rubbing her body down with compound to get the paint back to looking good.
But even then I still consider Mitzi her own person. For me she's not an art piece, but another person adopted by our family that I'm nursing back to health. I really can't understand the whole "car is an extension of myself" phrase and I've seen lots of people say that not just you. I can understand feeling pride in being able to own a really nice cool looking car, or feeling pride in letting people see the body work you worked hard on while on the road or see the engine work you did on the track. But you can do all of that without nullifying the car's own self in the process. To me, thinking that way, that it's an extension of yourself, is.. no offense.. a little self-centered to me. It's someone taking anything the car does, looks itself and saying 'no that's me' this car is my property and thus any good way it looks, good thing it does, that's alllll me aren't I awesome. This car? Naw it's just a tool that allows ME to be awesome,

I can relate to the last part there, about looking back and feeling proud. Heck I feel like that too.

3. Like I said what I have in it is so much more than what it's worth that it wouldn't ever make sense to anyway. I built it to drive the hell out of, not to sell. Even if I totalled it I'd probably just buy another one that's exactly the same and switch all my rare and custom parts to it. Maybe if someone offered me an absurd amount of money for it but that would never happen.

I did have to sell three of my cars a few years durring a move three years ago and that sucked. One I didn't really like and it was no big deal, and the other two: a '83 Datsun 280ZX and a '79 Daytona Blue Mazda RX-7 went to people that were going to do really sick builds and kinda give them the attention they needed so it wasn't terrible.

So to you it doesn't even really matter if it's your car or not, if you could get another car that's exactly the same type car and transfer your work over to it you'd be fine? You wouldn't even have the attachment to the first car in an emotional sense like 'that's the car that I actually did all that work on?' If I just transferred all my work to a new car that I had no memories with, no years together with, the whole thing would just ring hollow.

4. If I had that Porsche I'd do more than just drive it around town, but I'm talking more like taking it to the track or auto-cross than fucking it.

Cars just don't appeal to me in the same way that a sexy woman does. I love cars, I love building them and racing them and talking about them. I just don't have any interest in fucking the.

Also, other than the 911 which I'd get in a targa or hard top version, and the 370 I don't really like any of those cars.

><; Rrmmhh.. *holds back frustration* gah.. and probably eventually wreck it at the track too.. smashing that amazing virgin Porsche ass on some concrete barrier.. god what a waste...

Okay okay, honestly I didn't expect you do. I don't really expect anyone here to want to fuck cars but me, well except for any people here I've secretly or unsecretly converted into liking cars after seeing my porn. XP Come on guys, I know at least one of you has, it's basic statistics..

5. No. Imagine you spent like 1,000+ hours on the best drawing you ever did. You probably wouldn't want someone to rub their nut sack on it :P

Maybe for $50,000 and I'd probably replace the entire exhaust afterwards :P

Hope that helps.

PS how do you feel about motorcycles? Are you into them at all? Have you ever wanted to fuck one?[/QUOTE]

Well see now, you're not really answering the question. You answered one question, that no you would. But you still didn't answer why. Why would you feel the need to replace the exhaust system afterwords? It's not broken, so why? THAT'S what I wanted to know. You also didn't answer to the question what if I didn't even fuck it but just did fore-play with it.

As for your analogy, actually, if someone wanted to rub their balls on my drawing because it was that attractive to them... yeah. I probably wouldn't have a problem with it, as long as it didn't damage the drawing in some way like his nutsweat smearing the lines lol. To me I'd be humbled that someone would be THAT into my drawing. But then again, I make car porn for people so it's kind of assumed my stuff is masturbated to. If it was a copy of the original then I wouldn't care even more because his nutsweat wouldn't be damaging the original.

Hell if the car really is an extension of yourself, you should think of me wanting to fuck it so badly as a huge-ass ego stroking to you.


To answer your question though, no, I've never found a motorcycle attractive.
 
A figure of speech huh? Very weird..

See the closest I can compare with how you feel is with me and Mitzi the 55'. Like you I've put a ton of work into her, just 2 days ago I spent all afternoon rubbing her body down with compound to get the paint back to looking good.
But even then I still consider Mitzi her own person. For me she's not an art piece, but another person adopted by our family that I'm nursing back to health. I really can't understand the whole "car is an extension of myself" phrase and I've seen lots of people say that not just you. I can understand feeling pride in being able to own a really nice cool looking car, or feeling pride in letting people see the body work you worked hard on while on the road or see the engine work you did on the track. But you can do all of that without nullifying the car's own self in the process. To me, thinking that way, that it's an extension of yourself, is.. no offense.. a little self-centered to me. It's someone taking anything the car does, looks itself and saying 'no that's me' this car is my property and thus any good way it looks, good thing it does, that's alllll me aren't I awesome. This car? Naw it's just a tool that allows ME to be awesome,

I can relate to the last part there, about looking back and feeling proud. Heck I feel like that too.



So to you it doesn't even really matter if it's your car or not, if you could get another car that's exactly the same type car and transfer your work over to it you'd be fine? You wouldn't even have the attachment to the first car in an emotional sense like 'that's the car that I actually did all that work on?' If I just transferred all my work to a new car that I had no memories with, no years together with, the whole thing would just ring hollow.



><; Rrmmhh.. *holds back frustration* gah.. and probably eventually wreck it at the track too.. smashing that amazing virgin Porsche ass on some concrete barrier.. god what a waste...

Okay okay, honestly I didn't expect you do. I don't really expect anyone here to want to fuck cars but me, well except for any people here I've secretly or unsecretly converted into liking cars after seeing my porn. XP Come on guys, I know at least one of you has, it's basic statistics..

5. No. Imagine you spent like 1,000+ hours on the best drawing you ever did. You probably wouldn't want someone to rub their nut sack on it :P

Maybe for $50,000 and I'd probably replace the entire exhaust afterwards :P

Hope that helps.

PS how do you feel about motorcycles? Are you into them at all? Have you ever wanted to fuck one?[/QUOTE]

Well see now, you're not really answering the question. You answered one question, that no you would. But you still didn't answer why. Why would you feel the need to replace the exhaust system afterwords? It's not broken, so why? THAT'S what I wanted to know. You also didn't answer to the question what if I didn't even fuck it but just did fore-play with it.

As for your analogy, actually, if someone wanted to rub their balls on my drawing because it was that attractive to them... yeah. I probably wouldn't have a problem with it, as long as it didn't damage the drawing in some way like his nutsweat smearing the lines lol. To me I'd be humbled that someone would be THAT into my drawing. But then again, I make car porn for people so it's kind of assumed my stuff is masturbated to. If it was a copy of the original then I wouldn't care even more because his nutsweat wouldn't be damaging the original.

Hell if the car really is an extension of yourself, you should think of me wanting to fuck it so badly as a huge-ass ego stroking to you.


To answer your question though, no, I've never found a motorcycle attractive.[/QUOTE]

As for the replacement car thing. It's like the ship of Perseus. If it's the same motor, same interior and same assesories and what point is it a different car? It's going to have all the same quirks as the old one. It'd be a little sad but to me it would be pretty much the same car.

Crash it into a wall?!? Man, you underestimate my mad skills on the track haha. Porsches are made for the track, they're not happy driving a dentist to his office every day and sitting in a garage. It's like forcing a thoroughbred race horse to give asshole rich kids pony rides at the fair.

I dunno, I just get weird about things dicks have been in? I mean I guess technically the girls I fuck have already had other penesis in them but like I dunno, they're people so it's different. Plus, Its not something I really spend a lot of time thinking about.

Not to mention, I get pretty insane about people even touching or leaning on my car. Like besides my tuner, exactly five other people have driven my car in the four years since I got it.

I don't think you'd even like my car though, it has a very flat angular back and you said you don't like that.

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As for the replacement car thing. It's like the ship of Perseus. If it's the same motor, same interior and same assesories and what point is it a different car? It's going to have all the same quirks as the old one. It'd be a little sad but to me it would be pretty much the same car.

Crash it into a wall?!? Man, you underestimate my mad skills on the track haha. Porsches are made for the track, they're not happy driving a dentist to his office every day and sitting in a garage. It's like forcing a thoroughbred race horse to give asshole rich kids pony rides at the fair.

I dunno, I just get weird about things dicks have been in? I mean I guess technically the girls I fuck have already had other penesis in them but like I dunno, they're people so it's different. Plus, Its not something I really spend a lot of time thinking about.

Not to mention, I get pretty insane about people even touching or leaning on my car. Like besides my tuner, exactly five other people have driven my car in the four years since I got it.

I don't think you'd even like my car though, it has a very flat angular back and you said you don't like that.

Well then I guess it depends on the extent of how much you're carrying over. If you're carrying over every major component into say.. just a new frame or body.. maybe I could vibe with you that it's technically still the same car. That kinda gets into a very cloudy nebulous place there that's really hard to comprehend. Though that's not really want you did is it? If you were going to do that what was even the point of doing it if you're still going to keep the same quirky broken engine? Well even a little sad is something, thanks bro.

Haha did you notice that you kind of anthropomorphized the Porsche there? Saying that it has wants and is not happy doing this or that? Lol kinda funny. But I know what you mean, fact is there, there's a fine ass there that needs a plunderin'

You might be a bad example in this case. You obviously care about your car more then most, you're a car enthusiast. I wonder if that's why initially you were so freaked out about me here, maybe what I do and like struck a nerve in your car protective mind. I like that you're so protective of your baby though, I really am. It's a shame you wont expand that friendship with it to the extent that I do.. as it is quite a magical connection. But I don't want to force my stuff on other people.. I'm not a Christian. ; P

Is that your actual car? Nice, you got some official photo-ops going. Lol it might amuse you to know that if that picture was put up on the Mechiphile forms just about every guy there would be saying "sexy picture, wish the girl wasn't there though, get her out of there." lol You know, people who love their cars in the way you do are kind of the target demographic for my proposed 'car caricature' hobby business I want to do at car shows. They can be G rated cute drawings, or 'autoerrotic' stuff with your car in anthro form posing all sexy-like. But anyway, let me know if you'd be interested in commissioning me to do an anthro-caricature of your car. I might even give you a discount. :)

Anyway, not to get you on guard, but yeah while your car is rather boxy. I will admit, that nice plump white muffler dangling down under it's butt there is pretty got, I like it's perky looking duel pipes too... hehe looks like someone's been running rich.
 
Whoa there, friend, you might want to cut back on the quadruple posting. That's a lot of shit to read.

I'll take a crack at your questions, though. Powerleveling will be inevitable.

Questions:

#1) "Oh man, look at that, that's one sexy car." - Ever sense I've never understood this when it's said by non 'car fucking' people. How can something be sexy... yet.. not something you'd like to have sex with? Is it just an edgier way of saying wow what a beautiful looking car? Is saying beautiful just too.. I dunno.. non-macho enough so people say sexy instead? Or I wonder if when people say it they actually do find it sexy in a actual sexual way, like it's big round butt, it's flawless curves, and smooth body. We've already discussed how cars are designed to be at worst.. loosely based on the human figure. So is it that you guys do find it sexually attractive to a point? But that the normal person just has this mental blockade, this social programming that keeps them from finding them sexually attractive enough to want to fuck? It's just really confusing..

It's a weird aesthetic thing. I assume a lot of it has to do with sleek curves that resemble those on a human body, which I admit I haven't seen that much outside of sports cars. I also think a lot has to do with the car as a status symbol; more expensive luxury cars cost a lot of money, and therefore the people that own them want to communicate that they have wealth and power, both things that can be attractive. A sophisticate car implies sophisticated tastes of the driver. So it's not so much "the car is sexually attractive and I want to fuck it," so much as it's "the car is aesthetically appealing and classy, and if I drive it, people will want to have sex with me and I will be seen as sexier driving it."

#2)

Do people actually care about their cars at all beyond their material value or function? You know.. on an emotional level. It seems like maybe it's more common in girls, girls seem to get more emotionally attached as I've talked to lots on DA who aren't OS but still will say they treat them like their baby and would cry to death if they got wrecked.

But do people really just see their car the same as they'd see any appliance like a refrigerator or a TV? I don't know it almost seems like even normal people would get at least some emotional connection to their car because they actually travel around with them, their car is with them a lot, goes on adventures with them, they're like their buddy... right? I don't know. Being how I am, it just kills me seeing how little people seem to care about their cars, they'll kick them, call them mean names, neglect them and not even give a shit.

Have you EVER been emotionally connected to any car? In what way? Why, do you think?

I did when I was younger, but I got attached to a lot of inanimate objects as a child. I cried when my mom threw out an old mattress of mine when I was six. I was a strange kid.

As far as attachment to cars, I had become fond of the Dodge Ram van my mom and stepdad had as a kid. With six kids between the two of them, most of them from previous marriages, an eight-seated vehicle was a necessity. I'm not sure what year it was, but I think it was from the 80's. We probably got it around 1994, used. It had an ugly tan and beige color scheme that dated it terribly, and my mom thought it was goofy-looking as hell. It looked similar to this one:

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Except ours was mostly tan, with a beige stripe wrapping around it. So basically this, but with the colors switched.

I was amazed by it, as I had never been in a family vehicle that size before. My mom, as a joke, asked me if we should name it. I suggested "Betsy."

And so, her name was Betsy.

I think by virtue of having named it, and being a child, I became attached; Betsy transported us on many summer vacations and day trips. The other cars we had, an old but still sleek Jaguar and a rust-bucket Buick that smelled like sour milk (my younger sister had kicked over a gallon and the smell never went away), were both used solely by my stepfather, mostly for work. My mom drove the van, and described it as being like driving a school bus. The Jaguar was solely for Mark to drive and she didn't like the Buick, so I spent a lot of time being driven around in Betsy. we had her for quite a few years, pretty much for most of my childhood. I think I was a teenager by the time we finally sold her off. Betsy was ugly and ridiculous huge, but she was also reliable and comforting like a security blanket. My sisters and I had fallen asleep in that car a lot. I had a spot that was my favorite that I always sat in.

Nowadays, a Dodge Ram would be pretty impractical for me to own, but I have fond memories of Betsy, as well as some more unpleasant ones. The van, though an inanimate object, felt like it had character in a way no other cars my family had before or since had.

#3)

This kinda is attached to the last question. But, would you ever feel bad selling your car? Or even more-so, selling your car off to a scrapper, so you KNOW you're selling it off to it's death. Do you in any way feel bad, like you're sending an old reliable friend to it's inevitable death, feel bad for thinking that it must be feeling so betrayed, abandoned, and is heartbroken that you don't care about it anymore.

I felt a bit melancholy to see Betsy go. I don't recall if she was junked or sold off to some buyer, though a vehicle that size would probably be useful to somebody. I'm trying to remember if she had any problems with breaking down (as the first car I drove ended up having), so I can't recall. The whole thing was out of my hands.

As for when I traded in my first car, I think I was a little sad to see it go, but only really because the car had belonged to my step-father's mother before she died and I wound up with it.

#4)

Okay. this last one is a pretty stupid question. But it's just me venting my frustrations so give me a break.

But seriously...

How could any of you guys own a car like these, these these.. freaking amazing super-model beautiful sexy pieces of ass cars..
Porsche-911_Speedster_2011_1024x768_wallpaper_2e.jpg

Mitsubishi-Eclipse_GT_2007_1024x768_wallpaper_0f.jpg

Nissan-370Z_2013_1024x768_wallpaper_0f.jpg

Honda-Crosstour_2012_1024x768_wallpaper_1b.jpg

Audi-TT_Roadster_3.2_2005_1024x768_wallpaper_04.jpg

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And not have sex with them? Or no... even WANT to have sex with them?! This is ignoring everything like relationship building, emotional connection, this is just bare-bones physical attraction.

Like I told a friend of mine awhile back, one of my few friends who really openly talks to me about my OS and tries to get into my head. He for example always says who he finds Emma Watson attractive. So I told him, you know what's so frustrating to me? You're thinking about buying a Mitsubishi Eclipse and all you're going to do is drive it! To ME that's like going to the store, buying a clone of Emma Watson.. your very own Emma Watson to do whatever you want with, and then just having her give you piggie-back rides around town. Or having (name whatever female celebratory you're attracted to here) and then just have them stand by your front down to be used as a coat rack it's like... what?... WHAT?!

Like I know this makes me just sound like a horn-dog but I'm not. But it's just so UNBELIEVABLY frustrating to see people out in everyday life driving these.. these... beauties around town, knowing that all they're going to do is drive home, and leave them in their garage... and that's it. It's like.. I dunno... wasting part of the cars potential I don't know! <XD I mean for me, if I could bed any of those cars it would be like one of you guys getting (name whatever female celebratory you're attracted to here) in your bed and her saying "okay big boy, lets have fun, whatever you wanna do I'm up for it. /: P"

I guess... this isn't much of a question is it. But it feels goo just to get it out and vent.. but yeah. Sometimes I can understand why Edward Smith can't help himself sometimes. -__-; It doesn't help that I gotta keep it bottled up inside so much. A group of guys watches a sexy lady walk by and they all remark on it between themselves. I've got the same problem a guy guy would where I gotta keep quite when soon after a sexy car drives guy. >>;

Considering I'm attracted to humans and not cars, no. I don't have any desire to fuck a car. I mean, I'm a girl anyway, so how could I? Even if I wanted to, figuring out the logistics of doing so would be way too much effort for me and I'd probably be like "fuck it."

Even with the car I personified the most, it would never even occur to me to see her in a sexual way, not just because she's a car (obviously) but because she was so strongly attached to my childhood. It'd be like asking me why I wouldn't want to fuck my favorite toys I had as a kid or my elementary school playground.

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This is kind of a good question to follow up the last one with since it's kind of on the pervy end of things.

I've always been kinda curious but of course never ask anyone. But well.. if I walked up to one of you guys and asked if I could have like 20-30 minutes alone with your car to have sex. Or heck, not even that, just some dry humping or 4-play, Would you let me? This is assuming you know me at least a bit like maybe you know I'm the guy form this form, or we know each other in some other way.

If I payed you, would you let me then if not before?

If you said no to either of those, I'd be interested in knowing why. Is is desecration? Like you don't want to not know what I've done with your car next time you go to touch it's body somewhere? Or is it personal? Is it some sort of ego sink? Like if I fuck your car you in turn feel like you yourself have been fucked? Because you attached your ego to that car? OR is it that you actually feel attached to your car, and don't think it deserves to be whored out, you think it deserves better then that? I'm just curious.

Look, I'm a guy, just like you guys. Weather we fuck people or fuck cars, sometimes you get curious and think about maybe a one night stand you know? Or in this case a 30 minute stand. To see how another girl handles in bed, to test out some different waters. I don't what you guys thinking that I don't care about Lilly by asking this. She's still my #1, she's still the girl I love. But everyone is interested or at least thinks about some variety in the bed sometimes don't they?

I think if a dude asked me if he could fuck my car, and offered to pay money to do so, I'd decline because it'd still be grossly inappropriate and creepy. You don't go up to guys and ask to have sex with their girlfriends and pay them, why would you do that for a car? I mean, going by the logic of cars having souls, anyway. Girlfriends are not objects. And drivers are not their cars pimps.

I can't believe I wrote that.

Hell, somebody doing sexual things with anything I own would be creepy because it's my stuff, and I don't want somebody's fluids on my stuff. That's my stuff. If anybody's fluids are going to get on it, they'll be mine, because I don't want to handle stuff that somebody else jizzed on/in. So no, you cannot fuck my car. Nobody can fuck my car.

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Hello, Half-Dude. Do you think my car is sexy?

*shrug* she/he's okay. Nothing super duper sexy but not ugly either. I've actually found Volvos quite boxy an unappealing for the most part, but it's nice to see the newer ones growing some curves on them. In the future, if you'll supply the year/make/model of the car so I can look up pictures to see it at different angles I can give you a better answer. :)

I do love it's big nose, it's kinda cute. X3
 
Be boxy and practice safe sex. (Also nice touch with the HNNNGH Plate)

Sorry I had to.
 
Whoa there, friend, you might want to cut back on the quadruple posting. That's a lot of shit to read.

I'll take a crack at your questions, though. Powerleveling will be inevitable.

I can't help it, my powerlevel makes it so I can't help but type and type and type!




It's a weird aesthetic thing. I assume a lot of it has to do with sleek curves that resemble those on a human body, which I admit I haven't seen that much outside of sports cars. I also think a lot has to do with the car as a status symbol; more expensive luxury cars cost a lot of money, and therefore the people that own them want to communicate that they have wealth and power, both things that can be attractive. A sophisticate car implies sophisticated tastes of the driver. So it's not so much "the car is sexually attractive and I want to fuck it," so much as it's "the car is aesthetically appealing and classy, and if I drive it, people will want to have sex with me and I will be seen as sexier driving it."

Hmmmm... god. I'm SO far removed from all that, it's so crazy to think that I used to think like you guys did. I don't know what magical mix of ingredients lead my brain to be rewired to such an extent. Anyway, those human like curves still exist in average cars, they're just much more minimal and well... average. Like a very average looking person with no real shape to them. Oh ho, I'd be interested in seeing what you would consider making a car look 'classy' outside of it's brand recognition. That should be interesting.

God.. people really are full of themselves isn't it? That's the one thing I've seen reoccurring in this question. It's all about me me me. No offense, I'm just making an observation.

I did when I was younger, but I got attached to a lot of inanimate objects as a child. I cried when my mom threw out an old mattress of mine when I was six. I was a strange kid.

As far as attachment to cars, I had become fond of the Dodge Ram van my mom and stepdad had as a kid. With six kids between the two of them, most of them from previous marriages, an eight-seated vehicle was a necessity. I'm not sure what year it was, but I think it was from the 80's. We probably got it around 1994, used. It had an ugly tan and beige color scheme that dated it terribly, and my mom thought it was goofy-looking as hell.

Except ours was mostly tan, with a beige stripe wrapping around it. So basically this, but with the colors switched.

I was amazed by it, as I had never been in a family vehicle that size before. My mom, as a joke, asked me if we should name it. I suggested "Betsy."

And so, her name was Betsy.

I think by virtue of having named it, and being a child, I became attached; Betsy transported us on many summer vacations and day trips. The other cars we had, an old but still sleek Jaguar and a rust-bucket Buick that smelled like sour milk (my younger sister had kicked over a gallon and the smell never went away), were both used solely by my stepfather, mostly for work. My mom drove the van, and described it as being like driving a school bus. The Jaguar was solely for Mark to drive and she didn't like the Buick, so I spent a lot of time being driven around in Betsy. we had her for quite a few years, pretty much for most of my childhood. I think I was a teenager by the time we finally sold her off. Betsy was ugly and ridiculous huge, but she was also reliable and comforting like a security blanket. My sisters and I had fallen asleep in that car a lot. I had a spot that was my favorite that I always sat in.

Nowadays, a Dodge Ram would be pretty impractical for me to own, but I have fond memories of Betsy, as well as some more unpleasant ones. The van, though an inanimate object, felt like it had character in a way no other cars my family had before or since had.

Aw Meow that was an adorable story, thanks for sharing it with me. <3 You know I was kind of the same way, I had a blanky that I used to carry around with me everywhere when I was little. X3 I've still got a piece of it in a box... somewhere. I actually have another friend on DA who has fond attachment to their childhood vehicle which was also a Ram Van named Bert. Not much of a connection there but it's just interesting to see a van come up in talks about such things again.

I guess, they say once you name something you become attached to it. But you admit that you felt fondly for Betsy beforehand. I'm kind of on the fence about the idea of if children are more likely become attached to objects because they actually do sense an existing presence in them that comforts them. Or a mean presence that scares them (I remember a toy bus I was terrified of and banished to my closet lol.) Kids seem to be sensitive to stuff like that kinda like dogs and other animals are kinda hyper sensitive. I'm kinda wondering if we loose this ability as we age because we become more indoctrinated into the social system of how we should and shouldn't think. We're told growing up, what you think is imaginary, so we start to believe it. You know, my Pinky and Violet story, a story about a little girl who grows up with the family car as her best friend and semi-mother figure, takes a lot from that idea.


I felt a bit melancholy to see Betsy go. I don't recall if she was junked or sold off to some buyer, though a vehicle that size would probably be useful to somebody. I'm trying to remember if she had any problems with breaking down (as the first car I drove ended up having), so I can't recall. The whole thing was out of my hands.

As for when I traded in my first car, I think I was a little sad to see it go, but only really because the car had belonged to my step-father's mother before she died and I wound up with it.

But thinking back to that day, do you feel sad at all now? Are you sad that Betsy can't be with you anymore and that she's probably dead now? Does that make you feel bad in any way similar to a past family member that's died?

When she had to go, I know you said it was out of your control, but did you wish her the best? Did you hope that she'd go on and find another loving family who'd take care of her? Did you feel at all like she deserved that after all those comforting nights she kept you warm as you slept in her comforting bosoms?


Considering I'm attracted to humans and not cars, no. I don't have any desire to fuck a car. I mean, I'm a girl anyway, so how could I? Even if I wanted to, figuring out the logistics of doing so would be way too much effort for me and I'd probably be like "fuck it."

Even with the car I personified the most, it would never even occur to me to see her in a sexual way, not just because she's a car (obviously) but because she was so strongly attached to my childhood. It'd be like asking me why I wouldn't want to fuck my favorite toys I had as a kid or my elementary school playground.

How would a girl fuck a car? Easy..... might wanna slip a condom on him just to keep things clean though >>

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If you had sex with his engine running I bet that thing would have some epic vibrations in it too!

Lol that's so crazy when that happens online. All this time I thought you were a dude! <X'D I- I don't know what to think now, my world is tossed upside down.

Anyway, I'd never expect you or anyone to want to fuck their childhood car, I can totally understand that and would see it disturbing for the same reasons. I also wouldn't fuck an old classic car like Mitzi either. It'd feel like I was fucking an old lady and that's just... inherently dirty feeling. Plus an old car has a sort of aura of respect to it where you just wouldn't feel that way about it.



I think if a dude asked me if he could fuck my car, and offered to pay money to do so, I'd decline because it'd still be grossly inappropriate and creepy. You don't go up to guys and ask to have sex with their girlfriends and pay them, why would you do that for a car? I mean, going by the logic of cars having souls, anyway. Girlfriends are not objects. And drivers are not their cars pimps.

I can't believe I wrote that.

Hell, somebody doing sexual things with anything I own would be creepy because it's my stuff, and I don't want somebody's fluids on my stuff. That's my stuff. If anybody's fluids are going to get on it, they'll be mine, because I don't want to handle stuff that somebody else jizzed on/in. So no, you cannot fuck my car. Nobody can fuck my car.

You couldn't see any possible way you'd accept? Even if it was a boy you've known your whole life? What if he was that, and he sat you down and 'came out' to you as being OS and admitted to finding your car sexy. If it was handled emotionally and sensitively you still think you'd decline? You're also missing the second part everyone misses, what if it was just fore-play instead?

What I mean by foreplay with a car is like.. deep cuddling. Hell most of the cars on my CILF list I'd probably feel satisfied if I could just have 20 or so minutes of foreplay with them. Pressing your body against theirs, groping at their bulging curves, running your hands over their cheeks, hood, over their big round hips and ass.. maybe at most groping their tailpipe and/or muffler. What about that? No fluids or dicks involved.. except the boner in his pants.

It's funny, the only time normal people ever seem to fight for a car's feelings is when it comes to it being fucked. They're fine sending the car to it's death in the crusher, but if someone tries to fuck it, suddenly their car deserves it's dignity. Just kind of a funny observation.

Lol cars already have pimps anyway, they're called rental car employees lol.


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Well then I guess it depends on the extent of how much you're carrying over. If you're carrying over every major component into say.. just a new frame or body.. maybe I could vibe with you that it's technically still the same car. That kinda gets into a very cloudy nebulous place there that's really hard to comprehend.

This is the Ship of Theseus paradox. If you have any complex apparatus and replace parts as they wear out, in theory, you will eventually have a ship, or a car, with none of the original components. They will all have been replaced. Is it still the same machine, and if not, when exactly did it stop being the same?
 
This is the Ship of Theseus paradox. If you have any complex apparatus and replace parts as they wear out, in theory, you will eventually have a ship, or a car, with none of the original components. They will all have been replaced. Is it still the same machine, and if not, when exactly did it stop being the same?

I just heard someone mention that paradox the other day. It's kinda easy to me, I'd say when you replace the last original part.
 
I just heard someone mention that paradox the other day. It's kinda easy to me, I'd say when you replace the last original part.
Thats very interesting. What makes you say that? Would the car become a new 'person' at that point, or some kind of Frankensteinian monster? And what happens to the consciousness of the original car?
 
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