Has trans awareness backfired?

[DeeDee Megadoodoo]

I worked with a tranny in the late 90's, when it was still very rare. I actually felt bad for the guy. He claimed to be a "lesbian" and I remember thinking how absolutely batshit that was, but the guy was clearly miserable and embarrassed 24-7, so everyone sort of played along out of pity. I'm in Long Beach (it's pretty much the degenerate capitol of the US, even more faggot-laden than San Francisco), so I encountered another couple of them over the following few years, also "lesbians". Both times I thought, "huh... that's weird", but they, too, were shy, retiring, and clearly humiliated by their obsessions, so again, I just shrugged them off.

By 2014-2015 I noticed something had changed. The trans identity was no longer this weird, included-out-of-pity category-- it was becoming exalted. And the more enshrined it became, the more it seemed to act as flypaper to narcissists and predators. Now I *never* see the sort of troon I first encountered back in the 90's. They all seem like psychopathic coomers. Still all "lesbians", but they don't peer around meekly like prey, the way that guy did back in the 90's. Now they all have the air of a predator.

 

[gongwonkyeye]

according to recent UK census data, between 0.5-0.7% of the UK pop are 'trans', and that figure may or may not include 'non-binaries'. It seems dubious to me that our respective governments are so hung up on an issue that seemingly effects so few people, and has a detrimental effect on the majority of the population -- people being compelled to lie under oath about being raped by 'women', therapists unable to discuss issues with their clients lest they be accused of 'conversion therapy' and possibly jailed, people losing jobs and research grants for 'speaking out', the shit-show of non-crime hate crime incidents, women's jails accepting men with their peens into female jails because they state they're 'transitioning', women's sports being riddled with men wearing lipstick, the gross surgeries, the damaging drugs, plus the obvious mental illness and autism and social contagion elements. I can't believe any reasonable person with any degree of understanding can think ANY of this shit is even remotely acceptable. There HAS to be some hidden agenda here that the average Joe is just not getting.

I wonder if this whole trannie acceptance thing is some heavy duty propaganda mission with an end goal we're just not seeing. Could it be a distraction from another issue, like climate change? Is it a mass eugenics program? A way to make other paraphilias like paedophilia accepted? Is it just a convergence of bad actors and agents all pulling at the same rope for differing agendas? I don't know.

I just don't understand why ordinary, supposedly sane and relatively intelligent people are waving this shit through, legislatively, when it's obvious to anyone with eyes in their head that these people, while in the majority maybe being deserving of some sympathy, should in no way have their delusions accepted or their demands met?

 

[Merton J. Dingle]

I wonder if this whole trannie acceptance thing is some heavy duty propaganda mission with an end goal we're just not seeing. Could it be a distraction from another issue, like climate change? Is it a mass eugenics program? A way to make other paraphilias like paedophilia accepted? Is it just a convergence of bad actors and agents all pulling at the same rope for differing agendas? I don't know.

The 11th Hour blog covers a lot of the tranny agenda. Basically a bunch of men that were deluded into believing that they were women and had some sort of background in law got together in the early '90s and began setting up the tranny agenda to push on gay and left wing organizations; it was in the 90s that LGB became LGBT, adding a letter that had absolutely nothing to do with same sex attraction.

One of the most noteworthy of these was Martine Rothblatt, who runs a transhuman cult known as Terasem that has the goal of preserving human minds to transfer to another medium. The transgender movement is just a step in his plan, as he believes that changing your gender is the first step towards having a completely different body.

Most of the rest of the trans industry are just grifting money out of making people life long transgender patients. The Pritzker family in particular is bad about pushing tranny bullshit onto colleges and organizations that accept their money since they have a nasty looking Troon in the family. They, not George Soros, are the left wing equivalent of the Koch Brothers, trying to push an agenda that is very unpopular with the general public.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

lol no they are your overlords

 

[The Lawgiver]

I remember back in the 2000s where people were aware of transpeople but they were treated like everyone else instead of put on an untouchable pedastal by corporate overlords and social media cliques. Now I can't fucking stop fucking hearing from the people indoctrinated in current year bullshit about how I'm somehow secretly far right and want all trans people to die because I say "slurs" and "dogwhistles" and shit. Ironically I've made some actual tranny friends during this eternal current year hell that can't fucking stand the current state of things and somehow didn't get caught up in the social media mob conditioning. Shit in current year's really a case of "all dissenting voices get pushed away or drowned out" by the fucking mob even if that voice is someone they claim to support. par for the course, really.

lol no they are your overlords

"overlords"
lol
lmao
Seriously if anything they're a useful tool for the actual "overlords" to keep the lower castes at each other's throats.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

"overlords"
lol
lmao
Seriously if anything they're a useful tool for the actual "overlords" to keep the lower castes at each other's throats.

I won't go to jail for shit talking our "actual overlords", but in 20 years we'll be rotting in a cell for committing facecrime when referring to a tranny even with their preferred pronouns. Don't let the truth in your eyes betray you, lest the tranny lords see it and punish you.

 

[Funeral for a Furry]

There seems to be 2 groups 1st being old school trans who just want to get on with their lives & the 2nd being the queer communist wing that are the loud power hungry part, nether group gets along with the other & the 1st realise that pendulum swings both ways.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

I used to be a pronoun respecter however I now viscerally hate troons now that they're all visible in society and sheeeit. I only have sympathy for the youngest ones as they were groomed and probably can be saved. However, if the troon genocide they're whining about takes place in my life time they only have themselves to blame for it.

LMAO, troons are committing genocide against themselves.

As I've said before, the closest thing anyone would have to a final solution for troons would be for gender dysphoria to be reclassified as a mental disorder and treated as such. Treating the underlying causes for why exactly someone does not want to be a member of their biological sex, and cannot accept the fact that they are irrevocably stuck with it.

And institutionalizing the really hopeless cases, seeing as they pose a danger to themselves and others because of their compulsive drive to groom the young and impressionable, and to lash out violently at anyone who refuses to play along with their retarded games of pretend.

That's the opposite of a genocide, because we're stopping people from castrating/sterilizing themselves, and we're stopping them from trying to castrate/sterilize others.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

LMAO, troons are committing genocide against themselves.

As I've said before, the closest thing anyone would have to a final solution for troons would be for gender dysphoria to be reclassified as a mental disorder and treated as such. Treating the underlying causes for why exactly someone does not want to be a member of their biological sex, and cannot accept the fact that they are irrevocably stuck with it.

And institutionalizing the really hopeless cases, seeing as they pose a danger to themselves and others because of their compulsive drive to groom the young and impressionable, and to lash out violently at anyone who refuses to play along with their retarded games of pretend.

That's the opposite of a genocide, because we're stopping people from castrating/sterilizing themselves, and we're stopping them from trying to castrate/sterilize others.

Hell, even just bringing back a minor amount of societal stigma for being a lunatic in public would do these people in. Stop caving and giving them "Gender euphoria" and it will go away.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I won't go to jail for shit talking our "actual overlords", but in 20 years we'll be rotting in a cell for committing facecrime when referring to a tranny even with their preferred pronouns. Don't let the truth in your eyes betray you, lest the tranny lords see it and punish you.

By claiming shit like this you're acting as if you've already lost. YOU may be rotting in prison for dumb shit in your ideal hell future, but me? I'd be the guy leaving notes on troon doorsteps that just say "you smell of poopoo peepee" despite my legal paperwork saying I'm in jail, causing them to turn on each other as none of them can find the culprit and assume it's just someone in their group.

 

[Lady Bizness]

I was in the lady's of a restaurant and realized I forgot my sharpie  again because I was totally going to add some cheeky remark to the "trans women are welcome here" graffiti that's been there for over a year but someone beat me to it with something to the effect of ywnbaw.

Oh my heart.

Anyway, I don't imagine I'll be returning to Mt. Diablo for any reason ever, but inside one of the little caves you can crawl up into there's a trans flag painted in there in case anyone wants to deface it.

 

[Mothra1988]

California and New York dictate everything for the rest of the country. As long as people put up with them forcing everything down your through, nothing will change.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

Late to the discussion; but I'll give my two cents.

Lets start with Kony 2012.

Kony 2012 is probably the first great case of brain rot in the social media era.

I remember seeing old friends and schoolmates (had a few of them still on facebook at the time), with minimal to no interest or knowledge of global affairs suddenly becoming passionate evangelicals over a subject they knew nothing about. I remember seeing years long friendships ended, not because someone didn't support invisible children or ending child soldiers- but because they "didnt support it in the right way".

You could point out that Kony wasn't even in Uganda anymore or a relevant force. You could point out that this was just a hollywood scam. You could say you disagreed with the campaign donations and donating elsewhere (idk, to the UN, ECOMOG, etc) was better, because invisible children was just funneling money to the government of Uganda (which was kleptocratic as hell). Friendships literally ended over this shit, and then as quicker than anything else it was suddenly over when the organizations founded was arrested for public masturbation.

I think that after this, a lot of Kony 2012 got memory holed and people forgot how venemous they got or the stupidity that they argued.

For example: "I argued with you because you wernt against ending child soldiers!!!"
>bruh I literally just said this was pointless because Kony isnt even in Uganda anymore and has no army

Whats happened sometimes with troons, that Ive annoyingly seen, is the same thing. Been called a RW shitlord for pointing out things like the desition rate, the detransition rate, that many people latching onto this are confused youth (social contaigen), etc.

Lo and behold, what's the discorse a few years later?

"No I was never saying that hormones had no side effects, I was always of the belief that teenagers need to go to therapy, YOU were just transphobic and YOUR ARGUMENTS (literally the same) were TRANSPHOBIC dog whistles."

Ive seen people who hate JK Rowling literally repeat the same things as her years later, but their excuse is "okay but she was tone deaf or could have framed her arguments better so Im justified to hate her"

For example, from a newspaper article


I think that, the same way everything gets memory holed, the entire trans debate is going to be memory holed and all that will be left are feelings and idiots.

Trans people genuinely have my sympathy, but so many of them literally ruin their own lives and I just dont care that much anymore at the personal cost to myself for speaking out. I care enough about the kids, but thats basically it.

What I kind of remember is from the bible, which I dont usually think about, but it relates to the jews greeting Jesus on palm Sunday with paise, and crucifying him a week later. People are so fickle and have horrid memory or intentions and can be such a mob when they get over emotional and stimulated. The entire trans debate is a constant reminder of that, and something not to be forgotten.

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Transgenderism degenerates the decay of a dying first world western culture. There is a reason why tranny shit only exists in the capitalist first world nation, like white liberals and black Americans. It's entitlement and feeling oppressed and cool in a godless, fatherless culture. Soon westerners have to live with the reality of having to work to eat food. When childless, adults have no income to buy Disney toys. All this LGBT nonsense will end overnight.

 

[Pedophobe]

I just don't understand why ordinary, supposedly sane and relatively intelligent people are waving this shit through, legislatively, when it's obvious to anyone with eyes in their head that these people, while in the majority maybe being deserving of some sympathy, should in no way have their delusions accepted or their demands met?

Legislators are busy people, they rely on advisors to tell them what to think. Advisors are busy people, they rely on lobbyists to tell them what to think. Lobbyists are well paid people who represent charities funded by well-heeled bleeding hearts who want to save LGBTQIA+ people from discrimination. No one actually cares enough about LGBQIA+ to want to discriminate against them anymore so we're left with an entire political machine who's only remaining purpose is to prevent people using the right pronouns.

 

[cybertoaster]

Late to the discussion; but I'll give my two cents.

Lets start with Kony 2012.

Kony 2012 is probably the first great case of brain rot in the social media era.

I remember seeing old friends and schoolmates (had a few of them still on facebook at the time), with minimal to no interest or knowledge of global affairs suddenly becoming passionate evangelicals over a subject they knew nothing about. I remember seeing years long friendships ended, not because someone didn't support invisible children or ending child soldiers- but because they "didnt support it in the right way".

You could point out that Kony wasn't even in Uganda anymore or a relevant force. You could point out that this was just a hollywood scam. You could say you disagreed with the campaign donations and donating elsewhere (idk, to the UN, ECOMOG, etc) was better, because invisible children was just funneling money to the government of Uganda (which was kleptocratic as hell). Friendships literally ended over this shit, and then as quicker than anything else it was suddenly over when the organizations founded was arrested for public masturbation.

I think that after this, a lot of Kony 2012 got memory holed and people forgot how venemous they got or the stupidity that they argued.

For example: "I argued with you because you wernt against ending child soldiers!!!"
>bruh I literally just said this was pointless because Kony isnt even in Uganda anymore and has no army

Whats happened sometimes with troons, that Ive annoyingly seen, is the same thing. Been called a RW shitlord for pointing out things like the desition rate, the detransition rate, that many people latching onto this are confused youth (social contaigen), etc.

Lo and behold, what's the discorse a few years later?

"No I was never saying that hormones had no side effects, I was always of the belief that teenagers need to go to therapy, YOU were just transphobic and YOUR ARGUMENTS (literally the same) were TRANSPHOBIC dog whistles."

Ive seen people who hate JK Rowling literally repeat the same things as her years later, but their excuse is "okay but she was tone deaf or could have framed her arguments better so Im justified to hate her"

For example, from a newspaper article
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I think that, the same way everything gets memory holed, the entire trans debate is going to be memory holed and all that will be left are feelings and idiots.

Trans people genuinely have my sympathy, but so many of them literally ruin their own lives and I just dont care that much anymore at the personal cost to myself for speaking out. I care enough about the kids, but thats basically it.

What I kind of remember is from the bible, which I dont usually think about, but it relates to the jews greeting Jesus on palm Sunday with paise, and crucifying him a week later. People are so fickle and have horrid memory or intentions and can be such a mob when they get over emotional and stimulated. The entire trans debate is a constant reminder of that, and something not to be forgotten.

I got so much shit for posting this back in the day, DGAF because back then you could still laugh at snoby retards.

As for the rest, the problem is that western society no longer cares about hypocrisy. Used to be that if you talk the talk but don't walk the walk people called you out on your BS and you lost all credibility. Now nobody cares, so everybody becomes a hypocrite. Everybody supports whatever insanity will give them social clout even if they know its insane and they are hurting others with this crap. They will only criticize it when the overton window shifts and they get clout for pretending they never supported it, because they will never ever apologize for it.

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Transgenderism degenerates the decay of a dying first world western culture. There is a reason why tranny shit only exists in the capitalist first world nation, like white liberals and black Americans. It's entitlement and feeling oppressed and cool in a godless, fatherless culture. Soon westerners have to live with the reality of having to work to eat food. When childless, adults have no income to buy Disney toys. All this LGBT nonsense will end overnight.

You should get out of your bubble, this shit its spreading to the third world, I been to countries where half the kids were living in the slums but the government still paid for gender change operations. Again, if you're a kid there you're dying from cholera for lack of safe drinking water, but if you want to get your dick chopped off then the government will actually show up.

Why? because if they do that the mongoloids in the first world believe your third world regime is the best government in the world and will praise you and western politicians will give you more financial aid. That's the mistake bolsonaro made, Brazil was no less of a shithole under Lula, perhaps even worse, BUT he kept the progressive lefty illusion going while Bolsonaro is the south american DRUMPF! EVIL! BECAUSE REASONS!

Legislators are busy people, they rely on advisors to tell them what to think. Advisors are busy people, they rely on lobbyists to tell them what to think. Lobbyists are well paid people who represent charities funded by well-heeled bleeding hearts who want to save LGBTQIA+ people from discrimination. No one actually cares enough about LGBQIA+ to want to discriminate against them anymore so we're left with an entire political machine who's only remaining purpose is to prevent people using the right pronouns.

Nah this is way too big for being another case of "whoops I didn't read the bill!". Back to kony2012, there's actually another similar thing that happened even before that, the derailment of OWS by the first socjus types. When it started OWS was strictly a class protest, there were even people from the right there since 2008 and the subsequent bailouts were such a massive scam on the American people that even the dumbest hick was aware of it, and justifiably angry.

And then out of nowhere comes this army of trained disruptors making everything about gender and race, grabbing mics and interrupting the talks forcing people to submit to insane stuff like the progressive stack. That's also the first time I heard people talking about trigger warnings for stupid shit like clapping and suggesting "jazz hands" instead which I bet the bankers loved because there was no noise and they could laugh at the proles waving their hands like spastics. The result was something we have seen again and again on any movement/event that isn't about race, LGTV+OLEDs, or some corporate-supported shit. Anything real, truly grassroots and against the system gets derailed.

Its waaaaay too much of a coincidence that this keeps happening.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

That article might not fit properly this thread but some women in jail might be red pilled about trans awareness.

Leftist prison policies around ‘transgenderism’ put women at serious risk

It’s amazing how many violent male criminals, especially those in prison for rape, discover that they are, in fact, “transgender women.” Suitably woke jurisdictions then hasten to transfer these same “women” to women&rsq...

www.americanthinker.com

February 19, 2023

Leftist prison policies around ‘transgenderism’ put women at serious risk​

By Andrea Widburg


It’s amazing how many violent male criminals, especially those in prison for rape, discover that they are, in fact, “transgender women.” Suitably woke jurisdictions then hasten to transfer these same “women” to women’s prisons. That’s invariably followed by reports of women finding themselves terrorized in those same prisons.
2023 has offered two stunning headlines about the issue of violent men finding ways to get into women’s prisons. The first headline is that Nicola Sturgeon, Scotland’s very powerful, very woke National Party leader and first minister, was forced to resign after eight years in large part because of her stance on putting violent male criminals in women’s prisons (she’s for it).
The second headline comes from Canada, where it’s emerged that Adam Laboucan, an auto-cannibal (eats his own flesh) who violently raped a three-month-old infant and confessed to killing a toddler, was moved to a women’s prison after declaring himself to be a “transgender woman.” Now, women in that same prison say that Laboucan is terrifying them and, worse, terrifying their children, who are allowed to lodge with their mothers through age seven.
Rather than being a cute, glittery “transgender woman,” Laboucan is a violent sexual psychopath who cannot be allowed near women or children. This is true even though Canadians paid for him to have his penis cut off, a fake vagina carved into his flesh, and fake breasts implanted.

 

[God's drunkest driver]

decay of a dying first world western culture. There is a reason why tranny shit only exists in the capitalist first world nation, like white liberals and black Americans. It's entitlement and feeling oppressed and cool in a godless, fatherless culture.

Yeah this is definitely part of it. Victim culture is massive in a society with very few actual victims and unbelievable standard of living.

Could it be a distraction from another issue, like climate change?

Climate change sperging is itself a distraction from more pressing issues. Issues like the crushing of the middle class (inflation, driving up the cost of transportation and energy through "green policy"), mass gradual erasure of civil liberties(vax mandates, speech rstrictions, attempts at gun bans), wealth transfer (inflation, MMT), centralization of power (EU and EU-like movements) and monopolization (any of the big mergers and acquisitions that have made the news in the last decade). The west is moving toward plutocracy despite claiming to rail against it with faux outrage at countries like russia. If governments were actually serious about climate change they would be going full tilt toward nuclear power, applying massive pressure on china and india, and attempting to keep industry local where it can be regulated and clean instead of making it incredibly difficult to do things locally so that there is an incentive to outsource to countries which don't give a shit about the environment.

 

[The Batman]

It depends.

Outside internet culture, I guess you could say it failed, maybe.

But, in internet culture, it most definitely didn't fail because there is basically nowhere you can go online that doesn't pander to trannies or the wider LGBT, not to mention that hardly anyone cares either way.

 

[Malodorous Merkin]

Here's a fun fact-

There are over a thousand gay bars in America. How about lesbian bars?

21 lesbian bars remain in America.
https://www.pbs.org › newshour › arts › 21-lesbian-ba...
Jun 10, 2021 — 4, 2019, the Smallmans opened Herz in Mobile, Alabama, turning a straight dive bar into the only women-centered queer bar in the city.

There used to be hundreds of them, now, less than two dozen are left.

If you ask lesbians, they'll tell you that it was Trump's violent anti-LQBTXYZshabootie rhetoric that killed the lesbian bars, but that's obviously bullshit, and somehow the gay bars are immune to the Orange Man's badness.

Here's what killed the lesbian bars-

Troons.

Gay dudes are far less tolerant of the tranny insanity than the rest of the rainbow brigade, and they will just barely tolerate that shit in their gay bars, but not much, and not for long.

And the trannies don't even want to hang out with a bunch of dudes anyway, because they're true and genuine wymen, and they don't need no man.

And so the troons invade the lesbian bars, and the lesbians are too weak and woke to kick their crazy asses out in the gutter where they belong, and so the troon toxicity has killed off the lesbian bars one by one.

Who Crushed the Lesbian Bars? A New Minefield of Identity Politics ...
https://www.wweek.com › culture › 2016/11/30 › who-c...

Portland, an LGBTQ haven, doesn't have a single dance party that caters exclusively to women seeking women. Good luck starting one.​

The transgender rights movement that's gained steam in recent years has exploded the categories of gay and straight and male and female. This fall, Portland State University allowed students to choose from nine genders and nine sexual orientations when filling out demographic paperwork.

In the past two years, events catering to lesbians, like the monthly meet-up Fantasy Softball League, have been targeted online as unsafe spaces for trans women and others who don't identify with feminine pronouns. This past summer, semi-regular parties for lesbians, like Lesbian Night at Old Town's CC Slaughters, changed their names and focus to avoid controversy and be more inclusive. And lesbian-owned bars that draw lesbian customers, like Escape, shun the label so as not to offend.

Trannies are like vampires, you have to invite them in, and that's exactly what the lesbian bars did, because "as not to offend".

And that was the end of that. Catering to tranny insanity is an impossible business model, and it's only a matter of time before even just a few troons in your bar will drive away the paying customers with their annoying and perpetual tranny drama.

"Sexual politics" is the polite euphemism for the phenomenon of trannies killing lesbian bars.