Hasan Piker / HasanAbi - Young Turk, Twitch Streamer, Stunlocked Brogressive, Cenk's Nephew, only a socialist for the money

[SteelPlatedHeart]

https://twitter.com/doomercoomer/status/1620426095547023365

 

[Min M4x]

You think Mr. Beast should buy a couple of mansions and munch on nuggies instead?

This just fuels the theory that socialists can never be happy. Give them what they want (rich people paying for other people's shit) and they're STILL complaining about it. That's when you realize it's all envy trying to disguise itself as charity.


"It's not enough for everybody to win - SOMEBODY has to lose."

If any Socialist had Mr. Beast's money, I guarantee that none of them would spend a single cent on actually helping poor people

 

[Punished Puck]

Using the opinion of someone who has never risked his capital for anything other than the age of his prostitute to show how business owners aren't actually risking capital....

"Those who can, do, those who can't, teach" has never been truer.

its only the most soy filled impotent buck broken men that hate mister beast for being wildly charitable

 

[Chandelier]

"Shut off access to a 10 minute procedure and paywalled it so some people simply cant get it"
Oh you mean exactly the same way public healthcare does?

I have Keratoconus in both my eyes, while early stages can be corrected with glasses my left eye is way past that point and my right is working its way there. I had to wait a year from the moment my optometrist spotted it to get my eyes scanned at a hospital, then 3 months after that for another check up, then another 3 months given my options of ignoring it or be fitted for contacts, then by this point both my eyes have progressed worse so the contacts I got did not correct my vision and I cant wear contacts anyway because it fucks my sinus too badly. so after a couple more checkups and different set of contacts they finally say my eyes are fucked to the point I can a cornea transplant on my left eye and they will consider it for my right if it gets more fucked up.
I had the choice to pay 5k on private to get it done or be put on a list of fuck it we'll get back to you whenever and get it done by public healthcare.

So now I am almost a year on a wait list for a transplant ontop of the other running around prior and the only reason its got considered is because my eye is so fucked that contacts wont really work out for it. If my eyes were "Just good enough" Id not be even considered for sugery, its just mine are so fucked I can get it for free.
I am in one of the Smaller states of Australia and cannot fucking imagine this form of healthcare working at all in America.

But simple 10 minute procedure btw.

A family member of mine has the same issue. Legally blind in one eye, other eye was getting blurry until he started seeing blood. He went to the hospital and immediately got eye treatment. However, he also needs a corneal transplant. But he's diabetic and a smoker, so he's not at the top of the list.

America has great healthcare if you can afford it. These were working class people in Mr Beasts video, who couldn't afford it.

Best of luck to your vision, fren.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

i don't care if Mr.Beast spends 100,000$ curing 1000 people's blindness and makes 1,000,000$ off the ad revenue of the video. you can argue that it's self serving, but at the end of the day that's still 1000 people who got life-changing surgery.

So he spent $100k to receive ten times that amount. How is that profit making any better than the profit making the health insurance company does. That profit margin is far worse than an insurance company's.

i think the argument over "true altruism" and "no such thing a selfless deed" is pointless. if you have power/resources and you use it to benefit those who don't, then it doesn't matter how much of a return you get on it, personally.

If he's just making money then he shouldn't walk around as if what he's doing is charity of any kind. When he paid for a thousand surgeries, he bought the rights to use those thousand stories to enhance his fame and fortune. Just because the video is labeled charity or includes a charitable gift, it's still just his profit and fame seeking 9-to-5 job.

My biggest problem with MrBeast is undeserved praise. He's like a rich man who shows up and handles one specific problem for a small number of specific individuals. Like anyone does, he's helped a small number of people, albeit a larger small number because of his resources. He hasn't fixed the economy or healthcare. He helped a thousand people; that's it. Its not heartwarming to me to hear that a YouTuber whose entire career is undeserved has helped a thousand people. He didn't help me and he can't help the majority. He's only able to act like a genie because the scale is so infinitesimally small. It's not heartwarming to hear about some YouTuber's latest fame whoring, because that's all it really is.

 

[JimiHendrix]

Just because the video is labeled charity or includes a charitable gift, it's still just his profit and fame seeking 9-to-5 job.

that's fine, but if your job is curing blindness I'm not going to whine if you're a bit of a douchebag or profit off it.

you can be a bit of a selfish asshole/douchebag if your job title is fuckin' "Orphan Saver from Burning Buildings" I'll let it slide, honestly.

So he spent $100k to receive ten times that amount. How is that profit making any better than the profit making the health insurance company does. That profit margin is far worse than an insurance company's.

If he's just making money then he shouldn't walk around as if what he's doing is charity of any kind. When he paid for a thousand surgeries, he bought the rights to use those thousand stories to enhance his fame and fortune. Just because the video is labeled charity or includes a charitable gift, it's still just his profit and fame seeking 9-to-5 job.

My biggest problem with MrBeast is undeserved praise. He's like a rich man who shows up and handles one specific problem for a small number of specific individuals. Like anyone does, he's helped a small number of people, albeit a larger small number because of his resources. He hasn't fixed the economy or healthcare. He helped a thousand people; that's it. Its not heartwarming to me to hear that a YouTuber whose entire career is undeserved has helped a thousand people. He didn't help me and he can't help the majority. He's only able to act like a genie because the scale is so infinitesimally small. It's not heartwarming to hear about some YouTuber's latest fame whoring, because that's all it really is.

you know what actually? fuck it. i read over your post in full this time, and I know it's a double post, but sue me. i wanted to address more shit you said. Your argument is essentially "he doesn't deserve praise be cause he isn't helping enough people, only a small amount" so fuckin' what? He's still helping people. I ain't saying he's the next coming of jesus but unless he gave them their eyesight back so he could fuck their kids in front of them, what he did was objectively good and it's a lot more than what other people with money do.

"He hasn't fixed the economy or healthcare"

mate, how the fuck do you want some random youtuber to fix country size issues? do you think america's healthcare is fucked because no good samaritan has decided to stand up and fix it yet? it's fucked because it's a major complex problem, and there's likely some people with far more resources than Mr. Beast who don't want it fixed for their own reasons. Like it actually baffles me that you thought "Mr. Beast hasn't fixed America's economy or healthcare single-handedly so I don't think he's done any actual good" like, you for real right now?

"he helped a thousand people; that's it."

that's more than most people help in their lives. I'm not going to sit here and act like Mr. Beast is the next Jesus, but he's doing something with his money to tangibly help people, and that's a lot fucking more than Hasan, or Bill Gates, or a lot of other rich people have done.

 

[skykiii]

All I know about Hasan Piker is that Freedomtoons dunked on him once:

So... I guess he's never gotten any smarter.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

I swear, this Mr Beast drama is easily the dumbest argument I’ve seen online in a really long time.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

you know what actually? fuck it. i read over your post in full this time, and I know it's a double post, but sue me. i wanted to address more shit you said. Your argument is essentially "he doesn't deserve praise be cause he isn't helping enough people, only a small amount" so fuckin' what? He's still helping people. I ain't saying he's the next coming of jesus but unless he gave them their eyesight back so he could fuck their kids in front of them, what he did was objectively good and it's a lot more than what other people with money do.

"He hasn't fixed the economy or healthcare"

mate, how the fuck do you want some random youtuber to fix country size issues? do you think america's healthcare is fucked because no good samaritan has decided to stand up and fix it yet? it's fucked because it's a major complex problem, and there's likely some people with far more resources than Mr. Beast who don't want it fixed for their own reasons. Like it actually baffles me that you thought "Mr. Beast hasn't fixed America's economy or healthcare single-handedly so I don't think he's done any actual good" like, you for real right now?

"he helped a thousand people; that's it."

that's more than most people help in their lives. I'm not going to sit here and act like Mr. Beast is the next Jesus, but he's doing something with his money to tangibly help people, and that's a lot fucking more than Hasan, or Bill Gates, or a lot of other rich people have done.

I'm not reading all that. Blow MrBeast in your own mind.

He spent money to make money. That's not charity, retard.

 

[JimiHendrix]

I'm not reading all that. Blow MrBeast in your own mind.

He spent money to make money. That's not charity, retard.

ah, i should've expected since we're in the Hasan thread. "I'm going to put my opinion out, but if I get ANY blowback I'm just going to ignore it and insult"

classic. I'm glad you believe in your statements so much, eh?

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

ah, i should've expected since we're in the Hasan thread. "I'm going to put my opinion out, but if I get ANY blowback I'm just going to ignore it and insult"

classic. I'm glad you believe in your statements so much, eh?

I stated my case. MrBeast spent money to increase his fame and fortune, just like he does for every single one of his videos. It isn't charity. That's my claim, that the profit and fame seeking negate anything that would otherwise be called charity.

 

[JimiHendrix]

I stated my case. MrBeast spent money to increase his fame and fortune, just like he does for every single one of his videos. It isn't charity. That's my claim, that the profit and fame seeking negate anything that would otherwise be called charity.

fair enough, last response then. I think you are hung up on your definition of "charity" to the degree that you are missing out on the fact he is actually helping people. i do not care if he spends 10,000$ helping 1000 people and gets 1,000,000$ in return. sure, that may not be "charity" but at the end of the day, people who weren't getting any help from anywhere else got help, and I think that's worth something. if you disagree, then that's that.

 

[m1ddl3m4rch]

fair enough, last response then. I think you are hung up on your definition of "charity" to the degree that you are missing out on the fact he is actually helping people. i do not care if he spends 10,000$ helping 1000 people and gets 1,000,000$ in return. sure, that may not be "charity" but at the end of the day, people who weren't getting any help from anywhere else got help, and I think that's worth something. if you disagree, then that's that.

Fair enough.

And because I didn't get a chance to say it earlier: If it were true charity, he wouldn't have made a video and published it. Its about MrBeast and money.

 

[Local Fed]

Not to rehash the the topic of charity too much, but one thing that I think MrBeast does here is that despite profiting off of the endeavour both monetarily and by way of good will by many, is that he does do well for the topic around the issue that these people are facing. One may not like MrBeast or the way he goes about things, but it does put the spotlight on those in need and their cause to some degree even if just as part of a larger story in regards to MrBeast attracting attention. I can even imagine that charities surrounding whatever charity gimmick of the week probably end up with a general uptick in donations for awhile afterwards, as famous names are worth a lot and are especially valuable if you don't have to pay for them to shout you out. Had it been some nobody (in terms of widespread fame) off of the street making his offer and going through with it, I don't think many would really care as a one off thing because he's (this hypothetical nobody) not a name that the masses (at least the youth) know.

That doesn't make MrBeast a saint, but it's a good thing and one that no one is forcing him to do it (and I imagine he doesn't need the money at this point as he's A-List Hollywood levels rich from what I looked up.) Compare this to many of the e-celebs on Youtube and Twitch who are shitting on him like Hasan and Vaush who do exactly what for people, other than fear monger and provide political commentary to those who see red at the thought of having to exist around anyone who thinks the opposite of them?

And lastly, in the end if I'm one of those 1000 people, I couldn't give two shits what financial/clout related motivation MrBeast has here. I can see, that's good enough. But it's not just those 1000 people, it's their family, their friends, their dependents, etc. They'll get more of the person they care about.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

Hate to pile onto the derailing, but I wanted to point out charity can be a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" subject for certain people. If he isn't open about his charity and someone finds out about it, they'll pounce on him for trying to hide it, using the "you only hide things if you're doing something wrong" argument. Which, in the case of charity stuff, usually devolves into doing it for the "wrong" reasons like tax benefits and not really caring about it. But if you point it out, well, you get people like Hasan going after you.

My two cents, good deeds are still good, even if you also profit from them. I don't even know if it's possible to be entirely selfless with charity. Even if you don't tell anyone, don't report it on your taxes, anyone can make the argument "he did it to feel better about himself." Not to mention there's plenty of examples of people doing good things for not entirely selfless reason. Cops, doctors, fire fighters, ambulance drivers etc. all collect paychecks, but I don't think it invalidates they do good work.

I have no idea how much the procedures actually cost/how much this dude makes for ad revenue, but if I had to guess, the surgery cost more than that one particular video generates. Yeah, there's the tax benefits/fame arguments, but if this dude is already rich, does it really matter? I mean, if this is solely profit driven, I'm sure he could crank out a few low-effort react videos or something or reach out for some sort of sponsorship deal. Maybe he's just stroking his ego, but at least 1,000 people got something out of it. In comparison, you have someone like Hasan who hoards his money to buy stupid outfits, go to brothels and get tendies, all while blaming other people for not doing enough to make the world a better place.

 

[AssignedEva]

I think it's less important to judge if Mr Beast is a great philanthropist or if him making content out of poor people is tacky and tawdry.

What's more important is comparing Hasan to him. Regardless of Mr Beast's motivations, he's actually helping people. Hasan just hoards money and spends it on stuff like a $200,000 Porsche.

 

[Brain Problems]

We all know the Turkroach is pissed because another wealth(ier) eCeleb is spending money in a way that gets positive attention and makes Cenk's Nephew look like a laz(ier) fat(ter) dumb(er) hypocrite than he already is. Beast could have anonymously done all this and Hassan would be saying the same shit because ultimately it reveals what a liar and champagne socialist he is like all the fucking socialists I've ever met: they're the absolute best and telling other people what to do with their money until its their fuckin turn.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

One millionaire spends money to cure blindness and the other millionaire spends money on underage prostitutes.

 

[samuraicrack]

Interesting little fun fact; the US healthcare system actually performs 3 million cataract surgeries a year.



That's about 3 quarters of what communist weirdos on Twitter are celebrating Fidel Castro for doing back in 2004 every year, and all without forcing citizens in the country to use the black market for groceries or arresting them for criticizing the state. Cool stuff!



https://twitter.com/BoyBoy_Official/status/1620197123466878976

 

[Inside your walls]

OC because I've seen these tweets of Hasan seething at Sargon of Applebee's


The tweet used in the shitpost

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