Hasan Piker / HasanAbi - Young Turk, Twitch Streamer, Stunlocked Brogressive, Cenk's Nephew, only a socialist for the money

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Seems to be an old clip because he looks fitter in this one than his latest pics.
But holy shit, this is the most retarded take of "how do you do fellow kids proles?" I have ever seen.

This is basically akin to a baron or other minor noble going "well, I'm closer to the average guy serving sausage rolls at Greggs to Norf FC than I am to the Queen of England."

You're still high up on the hierarchy, Hassan. Nowhere close to the proles you secretly hate.
 
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jje100010001 said:
If he was with 'the people', he would have demolished that house and built an affordable multi-unit low-rise apartment on it no matter how much the neighbors screeched.
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without knowing anything about local ordinances, his neighborhood's zoning us probably for single unit housing. that being said, nothing is stopping him from tearing down the mansion and splitting the property into at least two smaller properties so that someone can get more affordable housing
 
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Cenk's Nephew talking about the Netherland Farmers. Comparing them to the truckers in Canada as "petite bourgeois" and not being working class.
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I'm not a political theorist by any means so I might have gotten this wrong but my understanding is that the categories/classes were
  • Haute Bourgeoisie - those who own the means of production, like industrialists. Instead of having to sell their labour, they exploit the labour of others for profit.
  • Petite Bourgeoisie - those who own minor means of production, like a shop owner. They exploit the labour of others for profit but also must engage in labour themselves, working alongside their employees.
  • Proletariat - those who must sell their labour to survive, like a shop worker.
  • Lumpenproletariat - those who do not sell their labour but instead act as parasites, like beggars and robbers.
...and that the centralisation of capital would disenfranchise the petit bourgeoisie and reduce them to the proletariat.

So while a poor homesteader might be proletariat, I guess a modern small time farmer that employs some farm labourers technically would count as petit bourgeois or a "kulak" as he claims. I can't see how truckers wouldn't count as proletariat/working class though as they typically sell their labour to a company. They might own their truck but that's not a means of production but a work tool.

Moreover, if we're being generous and calling what Hasan does "productive labour" he is himself petit bourgeois as his means of production is his lucrative channels and he exploits the labour of others to generate profit (like his video editor or agent). If he's claiming that wealth supercedes class then obviously he's haute bourgeoisie - he has enough money to retire and can live comfortably off of savings and investments and doesn't need to sell his labour.

I suppose this isn't saying anything new though. Maybe he counts as lumpenproletariat because he is a parasite who does not engage in productive labour and just grifts.
 
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etcetcetc said:
Cenk's Nephew talking about the Netherland Farmers. Comparing them to the truckers in Canada as "petite bourgeois" and not being working class.
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Most people on the internet im indifferent with and i can laugh at funny people and lolcows that do funny shit. Hasan is the only person i actually hate he literally makes more money than the Netherland farmers and probably the Netherland politicians just sitting there making retarded takes on everything. Farmers are the literal definition of working class they make our food that we need to survive kinda like the truckers who transport that food to our supermarkets.
AssignedEva said:
I suppose this isn't saying anything new though. Maybe he counts as lumpenproletariat because he is a parasite who does not engage in productive labour and just grifts.
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He literally is what he complains about and pretends he is working class and providing a needed service not just grifting for money. He is one of the few people that really make me mad and scream at the void of the internet.
 
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AssignedEva said:
I'm not a political theorist by any means so I might have gotten this wrong but my understanding is that the categories/classes were
  • Haute Bourgeoisie - those who own the means of production, like industrialists. Instead of having to sell their labour, they exploit the labour of others for profit.
  • Petite Bourgeoisie - those who own minor means of production, like a shop owner. They exploit the labour of others for profit but also must engage in labour themselves, working alongside their employees.
  • Proletariat - those who must sell their labour to survive, like a shop worker.
  • Lumpenproletariat - those who do not sell their labour but instead act as parasites, like beggars and robbers.
...and that the centralisation of capital would disenfranchise the petit bourgeoisie and reduce them to the proletariat.

So while a poor homesteader might be proletariat, I guess a modern small time farmer that employs some farm labourers technically would count as petit bourgeois or a "kulak" as he claims. I can't see how truckers wouldn't count as proletariat/working class though as they typically sell their labour to a company. They might own their truck but that's not a means of production but a work tool.

Moreover, if we're being generous and calling what Hasan does "productive labour" he is himself petit bourgeois as his means of production is his lucrative channels and he exploits the labour of others to generate profit (like his video editor or agent). If he's claiming that wealth supercedes class then obviously he's haute bourgeoisie - he has enough money to retire and can live comfortably off of savings and investments and doesn't need to sell his labour.

I suppose this isn't saying anything new though. Maybe he counts as lumpenproletariat because he is a parasite who does not engage in productive labour and just grifts.
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The alleged argument about the truckers is that the transport of goods is the labour, and the trucks are the means. It's a retarded argument, since the Amazon, GFS, or Walmart warehouse that loads the trucks would also have mechanical devices, and if those companies thought they could get a tax savings by forcing their employees to provide that equipment, they would.

Truckers don't become millionaires off their personal truck, they spent a huge amount on fuel and maintenance (that's the minimum), and each licensed driver can only drive a specific number of hours a day, which has to include breaks every specified number of hours, so we don't get more real-life recreations of the movie Black Dog, or accidental Waukesha's. The only drivers I've ever encountered that ever seem to be that well-off economically are the brown ones that cheat the licensing system by having the same 10 people take hundreds of written and practical driving exams for other brown people, that then only get training by being thrown in a truck with a somewhat more experienced brown person.

For example.

TLDR - Hasan is a retard that comes from a completely oblivious upbringing, and has no fucking idea what actual labor looks like.
 
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Korpon said:
Good to see Hasan thinks a guy who fucked his underaged niece is an absolute legend.
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he just sees him as a fellow sex trafficking enjoyer, similar to how he must view other streamers as his co-workers, or how he sees women as objects you can purchase with capitalistic profits. just a result of the system guys please redirect any inquiries about his opinion on purchasing rape to the great economy is the sky
 
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etcetcetc said:
Cenk's Nephew talking about the Netherland Farmers. Comparing them to the truckers in Canada as "petite bourgeois" and not being working class.
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This is the same guy who has called for a proletariat uprising not realizing that he would be one of the first to get the rope during a working class uprising. There has to be some sort of cognitive dissonance seeing all these actual working people not side with your supposedly working class movement. Of course, the people that worship tankiea ignore how their punishment of farmers lead to the famines that caused genocides
 
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Johnny Salami said:
This is the same guy who has called for a proletariat uprising not realizing that he would be one of the first to get the rope during a working class uprising. There has to be some sort of cognitive dissonance seeing all these actual working people not side with your supposedly working class movement. Of course, the people that worship tankiea ignore how their punishment of farmers lead to the famines that caused genocides
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Leftists like Hasan just see the working class as a monolith that all agree with his socialist opinions, so he has to make the excuse of "actually they're petite bourgeois" when someone with an actual job disagrees with him. It's the same reason why black conservatives get called Uncle Toms and coons.
 
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CallMeKiwi said:
Leftists like Hasan just see the working class as a monolith that all agree with his socialist opinions, so he has to make the excuse of "actually they're petite bourgeois" when someone with an actual job disagrees with him. It's the same reason why black conservatives get called Uncle Toms and coons.
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He is the epitome of braindead out of touch with reality leftist takes. The majority of working class people from the right and left hate socialism. They dont want to give their hard earned money away so the government can give them what the government thinks they want. They are also so racist that they are surprised when minorities and even immigrants are right wing, of course they are they came here to work hard for their dream not so the government can give them someone elses dream.
 
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Someone needs to dig up the clip of Hasan talking on trainswrecktv podcast about now that he's 30 he's only dating older women and when train asked how old he's talking about, he says something along the lines of 25 or 26. Everyone kinda just looked at weirdly for considering 26 old even though he's 30 something.

Really makes you think...
 
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TerribleIdeas™ said:
The alleged argument about the truckers is that the transport of goods is the labour, and the trucks are the means. It's a retarded argument, since the Amazon, GFS, or Walmart warehouse that loads the trucks would also have mechanical devices, and if those companies thought they could get a tax savings by forcing their employees to provide that equipment, they would.

Truckers don't become millionaires off their personal truck, they spent a huge amount on fuel and maintenance (that's the minimum), and each licensed driver can only drive a specific number of hours a day, which has to include breaks every specified number of hours, so we don't get more real-life recreations of the movie Black Dog, or accidental Waukesha's. The only drivers I've ever encountered that ever seem to be that well-off economically are the brown ones that cheat the licensing system by having the same 10 people take hundreds of written and practical driving exams for other brown people, that then only get training by being thrown in a truck with a somewhat more experienced brown person.

For example.

TLDR - Hasan is a retard that comes from a completely oblivious upbringing, and has no fucking idea what actual labor looks like.
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My guess is in Hasan's fat head the thought process doesn't go that far before declaring someone bourgeoisie. It's likely that anybody whose job is actually important enough that if they all stopped doing it (farm owner, store owner, truck driver) that it would make society significantly worse to non-functional, that makes them Kulaks to Hasan. Anything further is more of an after-the-fact justification for being angry at otherwise apparent worker class uprisings going against what him and the rest of the upper caste believe.
 
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