Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[Seafarer]

I'd say those are more comparable to 90s PC point-and-click games. (Eastern Mind, Total Distortion, MYST) I'd say Y2K is stuff like CvS1, DDR, Mr. Driller, anything from the turn of the millennium with water aesthetics.

I mean I include late 90’s stuff under the “Y2K” label for simplicity’s sake. Which is clearly what Anna-Logue! is going for with the Mario 64 look (something it pulls off pretty well might I add).

 

[I_Am_Not_Bruce_Willis]

I mean I include late 90’s stuff under the “Y2K” label for simplicity’s sake.

The term I use is "Turn of the Millenium." (98 - 02)

 

[Seafarer]

The term I use is "Turn of the Millenium." (98 - 02)

I mean the term “Y2K” gained in popularity around the mid-to late ‘90s, so we’re just arguing semantics at this point:

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

Your all just jealous Viv made something successful and knowing Kiwi Farms they'd fill it with anti trans humour, racism, dox of people you

Would you like to try this post again with proper English spelling and grammar starting with using the word "You're".? Vivziepop makes degenerate trash for degenerates. If you think that's all it takes to be successful in life than you're more pathetic than I originally thought.

 

[The Lawgiver]

He even praised Netflix's Scott Pilgrim, you know, the show that killed off the title character because the creator wanted to prove he was still a progressive boy.

Spoiler: SPOILER FOR THE SCOTT PILGRIM SHOW

Scott doesn't actually die and the reason the show isn't an adapation is because they literally wanted the creator to rewrite the entire fucking series for "modern audiences" and the compromise was making a sequel/what if goofy scenario with the characters instead. The prior shitshow with the Kevin smith He-man and the marketing netflix did for this framing it like it was going to be an adaptation completely ruined all good will for the series because talk online instantly became "SCOTT DIED OH NO" or on the other side "SCOTT DIED AND THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE HE'S CREEPY AND BAD AND I'M PROGRESSIVE IT'S TIME FOR A CHANGE RAMONA SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE PROTAGONIST NO I NEVER READ THE COMICS"

I watched the whole thing with a friend who also read the OG comics despite the initial fucking madness and it was pretty good for what it was. One or 2 cringey moments but they also kinda fit with the overall tone of the series. The finale has them fight a future scott who became a fucking mix of Heihachi and evil Ryu due to time travel distortion fuckery

"Scott Pilgrim Did What 'Clone High' Didn't"
What did it do that Clone High didn't? Suck?

Yeah pretty much, but even though I haven't watched this guys vid i have a hunch his reasoning is probably untied to the sources quality and it contains at least one tangent about scott being "bad"

Kinda wonder if that’s because Viv/A24 didn’t want people complaining about the animation downgrade. It’s such a baffling decision that it’s one of the only things that makes sense.

Once enough contradictions are made it'll probably turn out like Helluva Boss where they go "OH? YOU THOUGHT THE PILOT WAS CANON? SILLY TOXIC HATERS!"

On the Y2k thing (too lazy to add more fucking quotes to this) a ot of the stuff claiming to emulate 90s or y2k shit miss the actual aesthetics and it's got this kinda gross twitter/redditfication of the vibe.Has the same energy to it as the weird forced trend a few years back where they started acting like the paint splatter pattern on fucking disposable paper cups was some "obscure cool retro thing" despite it never stopping being a thing.

 

[BetterFuckChuck]

I'm really tired of depression being used as a "quirky personality trait". Like, it's one thing to make jokes on a mental illness. But, now it just seems like everyone is just adding mental illnesses to their characters as stats and to be #relatable! (God, I can't believe I typed that)

i've mentioned this before but the problem with a lot of modern media is it takes pop psychology - where even the most nuanced and understood version of it is an ever-changing, non-holistic field for understanding the human "soul" (in a non-biblical sense) - and makes that the way characters are constructed and understood. so instead of characters that are influenced by many different factors like physical appearance, their own constitution, spirituality, what others think of them, what they think of themselves, their own free will and the great unknown that both the characters and others will never be able to grasp about what makes them tick instead every character is purely understood from their mental problems. trauma is the operative word and characters are written purely psychologically which means your characters end up not really resembling real people because the only real part is the brain and the brain does pretty stupid shit that the body does not. people are not their intrusive thoughts except for when it comes to hack writers who can only ever give a character a conflict if it involves their sadbrain or OCD stopping them from punching a guy

 

[Colon capital V]

a ot of the stuff claiming to emulate 90s or y2k shit miss the actual aesthetics and it's got this kinda gross twitter/redditfication of the vibe

Holy shit this. Everytime there's a hip new (tr)analog horror or webseries emulating that style, it always eminates this "tranny energy" artstyle people have. I don't know how else to explain it, it's like you can just tell if someone is going for a certain "retro" look for their art, they're probably one of the biggest, most insufferable faggots you would encounter irl.

 

[Tablet County]

Holy shit this. Everytime there's a hip new (tr)analog horror or webseries emulating that style, it always eminates this "tranny energy" artstyle people have. I don't know how else to explain it, it's like you can just tell if someone is going for a certain "retro" look for their art, they're probably one of the biggest, most insufferable faggots you would encounter irl.

Why would you say this about Dave Szymanski?

 

[Doctor of Autism]

I will say that it is probably just me but a lot of the choreography in the musical numbers, almost feels like something you'd see in a fan-made animatic where someone makes an attempt at an animated music video. The movements feel like the kind you'd see in them, and it can be seen in about some of the songs.

 

[SubarashiiRage]

i've mentioned this before but the problem with a lot of modern media is it takes pop psychology - where even the most nuanced and understood version of it is an ever-changing, non-holistic field for understanding the human "soul" (in a non-biblical sense) - and makes that the way characters are constructed and understood. so instead of characters that are influenced by many different factors like physical appearance, their own constitution, spirituality, what others think of them, what they think of themselves, their own free will and the great unknown that both the characters and others will never be able to grasp about what makes them tick instead every character is purely understood from their mental problems. trauma is the operative word and characters are written purely psychologically which means your characters end up not really resembling real people because the only real part is the brain and the brain does pretty stupid shit that the body does not. people are not their intrusive thoughts except for when it comes to hack writers who can only ever give a character a conflict if it involves their sadbrain or OCD stopping them from punching a guy

Spoiler: Pretty much

the whole Tumbrl/Devianart-spawns "creative types" problem with writing is predicated on instant gratification and filling characters with boxes and labels to replace personality.

Seriously, time and time again, what terminally online fandoms do to "fix and improve" characters is attach flags and mental and physical illnesses. and they complain to the death that there is a correct way to experience each of them in a sea of contradictions and accusations between them.

Take the case of Angel's Sexual Assault, no one can give a concrete answer on how to do it the right way, it's either good or bad representation and people in the middle/without an opinion for fear of being targeted by each side. But intersectionality (the non-retarded version, not the one they use to shore up points of oppression) dictates that an individual's life experiences will shape how they deal with their internal and external problems, how people react to their situations would be unique to them. So Angel Dust is not wrong to act the way he does because by definition there is no right way.

but no, representation and projection dictate that it has to adhere to a pattern, a pattern made from a compilation of personal experiences, that no one can give a cohesive answer to, that doesn't involve, ironically, ignoring the characters as individuals entirely.

they think it adds depth, but their understanding is only superficial and ego-driven, it really sounds mature to have the word "trauma" and look at textbook responses to each person, but lacks soul, and that's why having conversations with them or understanding them does not bear fruit, you are not talking to a person just with something acting as its chosen labels should act.

At least Vivize isn't that extreme, even though her characters are made to appeal to HH and HB are tamed by comparison. Her characters aren't black enough or queer enough or atheist enough and I'm grateful that this makes her fans angry.

 

[Seventh Star]

Of course, the only correct way to represent Angel's sexual assault is for my favorite little cock sucking spider demon minstrel to get raped straight by Vaggie, who is definetly still a demon and not an Angel or whatever the fuck, until they're a couple again.

 

[CryoRevival #SJ-112]

Of course, the only correct way to represent Angel's sexual assault is for my favorite little cock sucking spider demon minstrel to get raped straight by Vaggie, who is definetly still a demon and not an Angel or whatever the fuck, until they're a couple again.

I can only describe what I am feeling right now as a gut level recreation of the >shadman reaction image...

 

[SubarashiiRage]

a little tangent in the voodoo/vodou controversy in HH:

Mindful Consumption of Hazbin Hotel’s vodoo Content

There is no such thing as Voodoo; it is a silly lie invented by you whites to injure us. — William Seabrook, The Magic Island

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I don't know your opinion, but my is that this is a problem that is partially perpetuated by practitioners by simply highlighting the misconceptions or "white fears" about voodou.

Thanks to Hollywood, only the negative versions of the practices are portrayed and mostly known by the lay public.

But where are the positive portrayals of religion? Vodou is a closed religion to protect the practices of colonization aka they do not want their beliefs to be seen with the same mass appeal and marketability as Greek, Norse or Bondye forbid as horoscope is today.

which basically guarantees that only misconceptions are perpetuated in the media, with good practices sealed in educational documentaries or articles on the internet with the message "this is not for you"

Why not make cartoons, series, games or films portraying positive Vodou practices? because they don't want white people to dominate their practices or "cultural appropriation" shit.

People are interested in religious practices and symbols because it seems cool, but if the only source they have is positive and they are always labeled racist for consuming it, it really doesn't give them the incentive to respect it, just be afraid.

TL;DR: I would like to have a Vodou style Juniper Lee

 

[The Lawgiver]

a little tangent in the voodoo/vodou controversy in HH:

Mindful Consumption of Hazbin Hotel’s vodoo Content

There is no such thing as Voodoo; it is a silly lie invented by you whites to injure us. — William Seabrook, The Magic Island

medium.com

I don't know your opinion, but my is that this is a problem that is partially perpetuated by practitioners by simply highlighting the misconceptions or "white fears" about voodou.

Thanks to Hollywood, only the negative versions of the practices are portrayed and mostly known by the lay public.

But where are the positive portrayals of religion? Vodou is a closed religion to protect the practices of colonization aka they do not want their beliefs to be seen with the same mass appeal and marketability as Greek, Norse or Bondye forbid as horoscope is today.

which basically guarantees that only misconceptions are perpetuated in the media, with good practices sealed in educational documentaries or articles on the internet with the message "this is not for you"

Why not make cartoons, series, games or films portraying positive Vodou practices? because they don't want white people to dominate their practices or "cultural appropriation" shit.

People are interested in religious practices and symbols because it seems cool, but if the only source they have is positive and they are always labeled racist for consuming it, it really doesn't give them the incentive to respect it, just be afraid.

TL;DR: I would like to have a Vodou style Juniper Lee

All this tells me is "voudou" people, like the people that spell magic like 'Magykx" are very fragile and I can cause them to have a fucking meltdown over quoting shit like "you remind me of the babe".

 

[The Nothingness]

Thanks to Hollywood, only the negative versions of the practices are portrayed and mostly known by the lay public.

Well, this guy certainly didn't help reinforce the negative portrayal of voodoo.


For the uninitiated, this man was François Duvalier, former president of Haiti who became a dictator and was in power until his death. He incorporated voodoo into his cult of personality, modeling himself on that of Baron Samedi.

 

[SubarashiiRage]

Well, this guy certainly didn't help reinforce the negative portrayal of voodoo.
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For the uninitiated, this was François Duvalier, former president of Haiti who became a dictator and incorporated voodoo into his cult of personality, modeling his image on that if Baron Samedi.

The objective superior Alastor

 

[Cave Fisher]

He even praised Netflix's Scott Pilgrim, you know, the show that killed off the title character because the creator wanted to prove he was still a progressive boy.

I never cared about Scott Pilgrim, and I especially didn't watch the new show outside of clips, since killing the title character off early just reeks of the type of "muh subverted expectations"-type shit I absolutely don't fuck with.
But the lesbians are kinda hot. So I get it.

 

[Grant McClellan]

That's because he is.

He's basically the kid who loves to act tough and swear but will immediately coward down if he had talked about a product that is about gay rights but ultimately still garbage.

Hell, during his review of Goodbye Volcano High, that piece of shit that was about the end of the world, but the drama was focused on Biseaxul Pterosaur's petty personal dreams and her band.

This game was mocked by everyone and was outdone by 4Chan called Snoot Game, which even came out earlier than the official game.
Dumbsville, however, was constantly trying to avoid talking about the controversy because he didn't want to come off as a bigot and bragged about how he was all about diversity.
It didn't even work because he still ended up dealing with the "fans" of Goodbye Volcano High in his tweets.

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He even praised Netflix's Scott Pilgrim, you know, the show that killed off the title character because the creator wanted to prove he was still a progressive boy.

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http://Your all backwards trash who can't accept media changes with the times

 

[Niggerphobe]

http://Your all backwards trash who can't accept media changes with the times

Nigger

 

[Alex Hogendorp]

http://Your all backwards trash who can't accept media changes with the times

I refuse to accept media changes with the times because media changes subject us with endless lunacy propaganda and forcing "THE MESSAGE" down our throat. Troons like you violate our basic human rights.